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Would like to get your opinions on LINUX MINT 12 versus WINDOWS 7. A friend of a friend is a LINUX believer.
 

WoodPeckr

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Give it a try. Setup a dual boot system so you can run both W7 and Mint.
A dual boot setup give you the best of both worlds.
Mint gets rave reviews and it won't cost you a penny!

I've been using Linux ~6 years now and have NO need for Windows or worse a pricier Mac.
You have far more FREEDOM and Security with Linux.
I can do EVERYTHING with Linux and it didn't cost a penny and still prefer Ubuntu right now.

It's very nice being M$ & Apple FREE!!!.....
 

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I think pekkerhead is going to fall in love. SR you are going to make Woodie's day.
Hey officer Applejack I was just stating the FACTS......unlike the mindless lick-spittle drivel you post....
 

FatOne

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I can do almost nothing with Linux except for the most generic firefox and open orifice stuff. Why bother running an OS if I have to run an emulator or reboot half the time.
 

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.unlike the mindless lick-spittle drivel you post....
Do you ever read your posts. Some day you really should get a friend, if you have one to read a random sample of your posts. You need the cold hard slap of reality.
 

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What's your fav OS?

I can do almost nothing with Linux except for the most generic firefox and open orifice stuff. Why bother running an OS if I have to run an emulator or reboot half the time.
What flavor Linux did you run?
I've done and DO EVERYTHING with Linux (using Fedora, openSUSE & Ubuntu) that I do with Windows and never ran any 'emulator' or had need to reboot. In FACT Linux IS more stable than Windows & OS X.....

On Linux Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Konqueror and SeaMonkey browsers ALL ran fine....:eyebrows:
 

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I can do almost nothing with Linux except for the most generic firefox and open orifice stuff. Why bother running an OS if I have to run an emulator or reboot half the time.

Why do yo have to reboot while running Linux?
Never had that issuue.
 

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What flavor Linux did you run?
I've done and DO EVERYTHING with Linux (using Fedora, openSUSE & Ubuntu) that I do with Windows and never ran any 'emulator' or had need to reboot. In FACT Linux IS more stable than Windows & OS X.....

On Linux Firefox, Chrome, Opera, Konqueror and SeaMonkey browsers ALL ran fine....:eyebrows:
Just about every game I've ever played either does not work on unix or requires a degree of fuckery as to not be worth it. Last time I checked fabdecrypter is at best problematic on unix and I even asked a fanboy about it and got nowhere. Although I have not checked recently, as I understand it my prefered tax software also does not work on linux.

If I have to reboot my machine every time I want to burn a disk or play a game and then reboot back to surf and turf, well it ain't gonna happen. I might as well stick with windows. My free copy of XP that I got ages ago and still use or the win7 that you pretty much have to get whenever you buy a laptop.

Never mind that when I did try running ubuntu off a disk recently, for the life of me I couldn't find out how to log into bell and they don't support linux. I asked a local fanboy and she had no clue how to do it either. Fuck it, XP/Win 7 runs everything I need, runs well enough and it is in effect free in terms of opportunity cost as any laptop I will get in the future will already have it installed.

Why do yo have to reboot while running Linux?
Never had that issuue.
As above, you do every time you need to run something that won't run on linux. Although my above comments are more recent, back when I did have linux running on a duel system I could never get the sound to work. Switching back and forth got old really fast.


I dig the idea of Linux, I really do want to believe. However it just isn't on.
 

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It's definitely an acquired taste no doubt. apple's os is essentially the same, except they do most of the work for you and build the entire system for you so that you don't have to tweak anything else.
It does take a bit more digging with Linux if you're comfortable with searching and installing, if you are, it's a breeze.

The Linux forums are really helpful.

I pretty much installed it on my old man's laptop and didn't have any issues with sound or video, runs way better than any Window$ machine and as fast (slightly faster) as my cousin's year old macbook pro.

Good luck.
 

FatOne

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It does take a bit more digging with Linux if you're comfortable with searching and installing, if you are, it's a breeze.
I remember when I couldn't get the sound to work and I asked a hard core computer guy/linux fanboy about it and he said there is a lot of fun to be had it rooting out the problem. I guess we had different conceptions of fun, which explained his career choice.

I'd be tempted to set up both, but if something goes wrong, reinstalling XP is such a pain in the ass, in particular as I got an SP 0 version and the cunts never seem to give out proper install disks anymore for the laptop and I have never used those recovery disks or whatever they are called. So even if I knew how to log on to Bell, it isn't really worth the risk.

Again, sadly, because I do want to believe.
 

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1. I'm not a gamer and it's well known Linux/Unix doesn't play Windows games well. That's the reason to dual boot. It gives you the ability to switch back to M$ for your games.
2. Been doing my taxes online with Linux for the past few years with NO issues.
3. Been burning disks with no problems or any need to reboot.
4. Never had any problems getting online with a hardwired connection with Linux. Wireless used to be a bit trickier years ago. The last couple years there have been NO wireless connection problems. Bell probably isn't the problem here. It's more likely due to a hardware issue with your PC. All PCs I've used have been plug & play on this point.
5. Haven't had any sound issues. It just played audio.

Been running Linux with no problems on PCs that were, an old Pent2, a Pent4, a dual core AMD laptop and a newer Dell i7. In FACT Linux always ran better for the most part than Windows.

The Ubuntu Forums have been excellent for any help needed when Linux was all new to me. Now I use them help forums when I want to do some tweaking or customizing.
 

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I'd be tempted to set up both, but if something goes wrong, reinstalling XP is such a pain in the ass....
Reinstalling Windows has ALWAYS been a big pain in the arse!
I've been lucky having M$ install disks with all my PCs but it still takes a long time if you do it by the book.

Linux by comparison is an easy install.
You download the Linux OS of your choice. Then burn it as an ISO file which turns it into a 'Live-CD' which is capable of running Linux off that CD to give it a test drive on your PC to see what it is like. Then if you decide to install Linux, it usually installs quickly in as little as 20-30 minutes, complete with all updates and your printer installed and ready to operate if you had your printer plugged in and turned on.
 

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1. I'm not a gamer and it's well known Linux/Unix doesn't play Windows games well. That's the reason to dual boot. It gives you the ability to switch back to M$ for your games.
2. Been doing my taxes online with Linux for the past few years with NO issues.
3. Been burning disks with no problems or any need to reboot.
4. Never had any problems getting online with a hardwired connection with Linux. Wireless used to be a bit trickier years ago. The last couple years there have been NO wireless connection problems. Bell probably isn't the problem here. It's more likely due to a hardware issue with your PC. All PCs I've used have been plug & play on this point.
5. Haven't had any sound issues. It just played audio.

Been running Linux with no problems on PCs that were, an old Pent2, a Pent4, a dual core AMD laptop and a newer Dell i7. In FACT Linux always ran better for the most part than Windows.

The Ubuntu Forums have been excellent for any help needed when Linux was all new to me. Now I use them help forums when I want to do some tweaking or customizing.
1: No, its a reason to just single boot to an OS that does it all
2: So which CRA complient software do you netfile with. Either way it is a bit much to ask someone to switch tax software just for a different operating system.
3: Burning yes, but ripping? Last I read it is possible, sort of, if you stand on one foot while rubbing your tummy with a monkey paw and repeating Uganda is for bunnies. If you are lucky.
4: Is it possible to get on line, sure. I haven't the foggiest how to do it and it seems nobody can tell me. With bell I got software to get me on for win xp and my win7 software seems to be able to pick things up without too much fuckery. I looked and looked in Linux and can find nowhere to enter in my account information to log on. This is via wire. The other fanboy I mentioned went on about my modem, but it isn't a problem with windows XP.
5: This was 10 years ago as I did mention, I do seem to recall that modern linux do have problems with some makes of printers though.


It works for you, fine, but it is important to note that unix just isn't on for many people, for example anyone who wants to play decent games without rebooting.
 

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If I didn't play any games at all I would be on a Linux. All the non-game stuff I do can be done on Linux just fine. Unfortunately I gotta play my SWTOR and Battlefield 3.
 

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Would like to get your opinions on LINUX MINT 12 versus WINDOWS 7. A friend of a friend is a LINUX believer.
I've been using mint 10 on my cheap laptop for a couple years, mainly because it's a good flavour for graphics. No problems with it so far.
 

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5: This was 10 years ago as I did mention, I do seem to recall that modern linux do have problems with some makes of printers though.
WTF, 10 years ago is ancient history in the world of PCs and this IS the first mention you made of '10 yrs ago'.....:eyebrows:

I only go back 6 yrs and didn't have as many issues as you did.

Today Linux has come a long ways since 6-10 ago, all for the better but you still don't use Linux to play games you run on Windows.

Only used a couple HP printers and Linux installed them with less effort and quicker than Windows does.
 

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If I didn't play any games at all I would be on a Linux. All the non-game stuff I do can be done on Linux just fine. Unfortunately I gotta play my SWTOR and Battlefield 3.
Dual boot and problem solved...;)
 

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I use both Ubuntu and Win 7. I usually only go on Win 7 for gaming...virtually everything else Ubuntu does fine.

interesting comparison just came out today Ubuntu 11.10 Review: Benchmarked Against Windows 7
I usually go into W7, Vista and XP on my 3 PCs only to update Windows, since I don't game...virtually everything else Ubuntu does fine also.....;)

Nice review of 11.10.
I'm still using 11.04 because I didn't like a few things 11.10 did when it first rolled out.
That has probably been corrected by now but I have done extensive tweaking of 11.04 that would have to be replicated when moving to 11.10 again and since 11.04 runs fine I'll stick with it awhile longer.

I like having the freedom to modify an OS that Linux offers.
Others don't and just use it as it comes.
Both choices are yours and a win - win as far as I can see....;)
 
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