Libyan WMD's

seth gecko

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Remember those chemical/biological weapons that Ghadafi claimed to have never had, and then claimed to have destroyed, to get himself off the worlds shitlist?
Rumours are swirling & twirling around that nearly 3000 shells of various nastiness have gone missing from gov't stockpiles after the rebels broke into depots. One rumour getting the most attention is that the shells have been sold (seller unspecified) to terrorist groups (buyer or buyers unspecified) and are in transport through Sudan.

Now THAT would make any already messed-up situation just all the more worse!!
 

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let us hope these are just rumors
 

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Remember those chemical/biological weapons that Ghadafi claimed to have never had, and then claimed to have destroyed, to get himself off the worlds shitlist?
Rumours are swirling & twirling around that nearly 3000 shells of various nastiness have gone missing from gov't stockpiles after the rebels broke into depots. One rumour getting the most attention is that the shells have been sold (seller unspecified) to terrorist groups (buyer or buyers unspecified) and are in transport through Sudan.

Now THAT would make any already messed-up situation just all the more worse!!
I'm curious as to your source for that info.
 

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Remember those chemical/biological weapons that Ghadafi claimed to have never had, and then claimed to have destroyed, to get himself off the worlds shitlist?
Rumours are swirling & twirling around that nearly 3000 shells of various nastiness have gone missing from gov't stockpiles after the rebels broke into depots. One rumour getting the most attention is that the shells have been sold (seller unspecified) to terrorist groups (buyer or buyers unspecified) and are in transport through Sudan.

Now THAT would make any already messed-up situation just all the more worse!!
The rebels broke into government depots and the weapons disappeared? Whoa!

All beat would be off then, but does Nato and company have the spine to do what needs to be done? What's worse, Gadaffi's lie or the rebels thinking they've doing a good thing.
 

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One rumour getting the most attention is that the shells have been sold (seller unspecified) to terrorist groups (buyer or buyers unspecified) and are in transport through Sudan.
Wouldn't at all be surprised if this rumor wasn't created in some neocon think tank...:)
 

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Since we're talking WMD's I think this old quote applies:

"fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again."
 

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Remember those chemical/biological weapons that Ghadafi claimed to have never had, and then claimed to have destroyed, to get himself off the worlds shitlist?
Rumours are swirling & twirling around that nearly 3000 shells of various nastiness have gone missing from gov't stockpiles after the rebels broke into depots. One rumour getting the most attention is that the shells have been sold (seller unspecified) to terrorist groups (buyer or buyers unspecified) and are in transport through Sudan.

Now THAT would make any already messed-up situation just all the more worse!!
So THAT'S where Hussein hid them eh ? it all makes sense now :)
 

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On the topic of conspiracy theories, here's a better story going around; I'll give the condensed version.
French carmaker Renault developed an engine that runs on cocoa, & French gov't needs to 1)take control the cocoa trade, and 2)disrupt oil production enough to make a cocoa-car seem like an attractive alternative. Thats why France has taken the lead in Ivory Coast & Libya.
 

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Wonder what Laddie would have to say on that.....:eek:
 

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So THAT'S where Hussein hid them eh ? it all makes sense now
LMAO!!!
You can just imagine where Dubya and his DICK would take this story, were they still in the White House!....:eek:
 

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blackrock13

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Try this source;

http://213.251.145.96/cable/2009/06/09TRIPOLI490.html

S E C R E T TRIPOLI 000490


DEPT FOR NEA/MAG AND ISN/CB (FERGUSON); NSC FOR MCDERMOTT

E.O. 12958: DECL: 6/18/2019
TAGS: PARM PREL PGOV CWC OPCW LY
SUBJECT: ITALY SAYS GOL DELIBERATELY STALLING ON SIGNING CHEMICAL
WEAPONS DESTRUCTION CONTRACT REF: STATE 59827 CLASSIFIED BY: Gene A. Cretz, Ambassador, U.S. Embassy - Tripoli, U.S. Dept of State. REASON: 1.4 (b), (d)

1.(S) This message contains an action request (para 4). xxxxxxxxxxxx told P/E Chief June 17 that xxxxxxxxxxxx in Tripoli assessed that the Government of Libya (GOL) was deliberately delaying the implementation of its commitments under the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC) to destroy its remaining stockpile of declared chemical weapons (approximately 25 MT of mustard agent and 860 MT of chemical agent precursor chemicals). The deadline established by the CWC Conference of the States Parties for the destruction of Libya's mustard stockpile is December 31, 2010; destruction of the remaining inventory of precursor chemicals is to be completed no later than December 31, 2011. The Italian company SIPSA has been working with the Libyan side to design and build the Rabta Toxic Chemicals Destruction Facility at which the destruction is to take place; however, the GOL has repeatedly delayed signing a contract with SIPSA. SIPSA has continued its work, but recently told xxxxxxxxxxxx it judged that even if construction were to begin immediately, it was highly unlikely that the GOL would meet the deadlines for destruction of its mustard agent and precursors.

2.(S) xxxxxxxxxxxx told xxxxxxxxxxxx that al-Qadhafi wanted to "play cat and mouse" with the Organization for Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPCW) in an effort to secure further, unspecified compensation for Libya's decision to abandon its Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) programs. xxxxxxxxxxxx offered his assessment that Italy and other European states parties were inclined to view the delay in signing the SIPSA contract as a strictly technical issue for the OPCW, an approach he judged to be mistaken. He said the collective assessment of the xxxxxxxxxxxx in Tripoli was that the GOL was deliberately slow-rolling implementation of its WMD commitments, including the SIPSA contract; however, xxxxxxxxxxxx had been reluctant to raise the issue with the GOL xxxxxxxxxxxx.

3.(S) Comment: The GOL has been credited with having largely met its WMD commitments; however, the recent track record is worrisome and suggests that it may be deliberately delaying implementation of commitments it has undertaken under the rubric of the U.S.-U.K.-Libya Tri-lateral Steering and Coordination Committee (TSCC) and multi-lateral mechanisms such as the OPCW. The GOL has delayed since November 2007 signing a U.S.-Libya agreement for the return of spent nuclear fuel (the HEU-LEU agreement); delayed signing a parallel Russia-Libya agreement; given no detail on plans to sell its uranium yellowcake stockpile; delayed signing the SIPSA contract and delayed providing greater detail on its proposed retention of the sandbag enclosure at the Rabta facility.

4.(S) Action request: Reftel instructs Post to demarche appropriate Libyan officials to urge greater transparency with respect to the status of preparations to destroy its chemical weapons and its proposed retention of the sandbag enclosure. We have requested a meeting with Dr. Ahmed Hesnawy, head of Libya's National CW Authority, to convey the demarche and related non-paper. Post requests guidance from the Department as to whether and how to incorporate the information above on the SIPSA contract and al-Qadhafi's reported intervention into the demarche. CRETZ
 

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Good work detective

You earned a banana!....:cool:

bottie is kinda weak at citing sources and annotated bibliographies .....probably missed that class in business school!
 

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You earned a banana!....:cool:

bottie is kinda weak at citing sources and annotated bibliographies .....probably missed that class in business school!
No, he just offered an initial search, not an exhaustive one. I guess he figured some members would actually read down to paragraph 3. I got my source from the same RS article.
 

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Good find hehehe....:)
 

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Yepper, see lots of that in the silly 'religion fails' thread....:p
 
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