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I just got back from there for the first time in about 25 years. When I was there 25 years ago, if you didn't gamble was a great vacation because it was super cheap and fun. As long as you were hanging with someone playing at the casino, you could drink all night for free (you had to be at a table or slot machine) and food was crazy cheap. You could get free breakfast buffet for spending very little at a table.

The pendulum as swung completely to the other side now. It's suuuuuper exspensive. Maybe not so much if you go way off the strip, but I couldn't believe how expensive it's gotten. Instead of a fee breakfast buffet, you paying like $24.00 U.S for bacon and eggs. A mid size bottle of water is like 6 bucks U.S.

That was my second time there and I'll never go back. The only upside to the place these days is the casino's themselves are much quieter with the new machines.

The place is a complete ripoff.
Yes, the changes have been very significant, including the escorts.

When riverboat and Indian casinos started to be more prevalent, and for that matter smartphones allowed escorts to work more freely all over the country, Vegas went upscale.

I thought it was a mistake, but I was wrong.

Lavish hotels, better dining and bars, upscale shows, expensive shopping, and classier escorts.

Everything there costs two, three or four times what it did 15-25 years ago.

The marketing is geared toward wealthy Californians who go regularly and Midwesterners who don’t usually get to have much fun and splurge on their once a year trip to Vegas that is partially subsidized if traveling to a convention.

Many of us liked the often cheesy and sometimes degenerate old days, but the changes seemed to have worked.

And it doesn’t help that Canadians lose 25 percent right off the bat in the currency conversion.

It is a better place than before if you have a huge budget. Los Angeles, Orange County and Silicon Valley have an unlimited source of the wealthy that go there.

America really ain’t a bad place if you are rich, and Vegas is their playground.
 
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Yes, the changes have been very significant, including the escorts.

When riverboat and Indian casinos started to be more prevalent, and for that matter smartphones allowed escorts to work more freely all over the country, Vegas went upscale.

I thought it was a mistake, but I was wrong.

Lavish hotels, better dining and bars, upscale shows, expensive shopping, and classier escorts.

Everything there costs two, three or four times what it did 15-25 years ago.

The marketing is geared toward wealthy Californians who go regularly and Midwesterners who don’t usually get to have much fun and splurge on their once a year trip to Vegas that is partially subsidized if traveling to a convention.

Many of us liked the often cheesy and sometimes degenerate old days, but the changes seemed to have worked.

And it doesn’t help that Canadians lose 25 percent right off the bat in the currency conversion.

It is a better place than before if you have a huge budget. Los Angeles, Orange County and Silicon Valley have an unlimited source of the wealthy that go there.

America really ain’t a bad place if you are rich, and Vegas is their playground.
Please tell me where you are only paying 25% for US$?
Most places it's 40%+.
 

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Please tell me where you are only paying 25% for US$?
Most places it's 40%+.
Good point. I actually go the other way, so instead of picking up 25 percent, it is more like 10 percent after the ridiculous fees.

I was just saying it is difficult enough to compete against all the rich folks from California in Vegas for Americans. The Canadians already come into it at a disadvantage.

I didn’t think it would work, but the place is full other than December. And it is almost full in December. It never ceases to amaze me.

My favorite restaurant when I get to Santa Monica has a Vegas place, which is of course 50 percent more expensive than the California location.

I like Vegas, but I go a lot less than I did before they marketed it to the affluent and those who want to “play affluent” once a year.
 

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. Los Angeles, Orange County and Silicon Valley have an unlimited source of the wealthy that go there.

America really ain’t a bad place if you are rich, and Vegas is their playground.
You hit the nail on the head. Why carter to the average Joe when's there's tons of people with deep pockets that are willing pay more?
 

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Yes, the changes have been very significant, including the escorts.

When riverboat and Indian casinos started to be more prevalent, and for that matter smartphones allowed escorts to work more freely all over the country, Vegas went upscale.

I thought it was a mistake, but I was wrong.

Lavish hotels, better dining and bars, upscale shows, expensive shopping, and classier escorts.

Everything there costs two, three or four times what it did 15-25 years ago.

The marketing is geared toward wealthy Californians who go regularly and Midwesterners who don’t usually get to have much fun and splurge on their once a year trip to Vegas that is partially subsidized if traveling to a convention.

Many of us liked the often cheesy and sometimes degenerate old days, but the changes seemed to have worked.

And it doesn’t help that Canadians lose 25 percent right off the bat in the currency conversion.

It is a better place than before if you have a huge budget. Los Angeles, Orange County and Silicon Valley have an unlimited source of the wealthy that go there.

America really ain’t a bad place if you are rich, and Vegas is their playground.
In the old day 70s to mid 80s, going to a show was generally free but you would give the doorman a tip of $10-$20. to get a good seat closer to the stage, now it is usually an entrance fee from $100. US which is now close to $140 CAD.
 

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Only good time is during a recession when regular girls go out to help make the bills and are reasonably priced.
 
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Generally back in the day at some I heard las vegas and miami were the place to be. Many would ask about vacation.
Many of the same Vegas factors are in play with Miami, which is the only place in Florida that I like, and the only area of Florida where seeing a sex worker is relatively safe from law enforcement concerns.

A long, long time ago, when the U.S. was a Middle Class country, there were a few nice hotels on the Miami beach and a very large number of not as nice, but far less expensive hotels two, three or four blocks from the beach.

Families from all over the Midwest made the drive to Florida, stopping at a fun fleabag hotel on the way, and usually staying at a hotel/motel a few blocks from the beach. It was no big deal, especially if you were a kid, to walk those few blocks.

Now there are massive, expensive hotels on the beach, and very few, if any, inexpensive hotels/motels a few blocks from the beach. Instead they are condos purchased by retirees and South Americans.

Once I was just tired of seeing $25 fish sandwiches on the menu and walked at least twelve blocks away from the beach and found a Cuban restaurant where construction workers were eating and it was great food for much less than $25.

The best vacation spots in the U.S. cater to the winners in our winners-take-most system. The one exception is the Western states such as Montana, Idaho and Utah. Even the areas near Yellowstone mostly have lower-end chain hotels and affordable dining. Maybe they hate Yuppies and want to discourage them from arriving.
 
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