Katrina

langeweile

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Subject: Katrina

From a New Orleans observer: What I have seen since Katrina:

The poor and the wealthy hurt by the storm.

Black, white, Hispanic, Oriental and Indian all hurt by the storm.

Christian people giving, giving, giving.

Churches going all out to minister in Jesus' name.

Neighbors going door to door helping one another.

Thugs and hoodlums going door to door looking for someone vulnerable.

Ice and water being fought over as police tried to keep the peace.

People coming up from New Orleans taking over empty houses because
shelters are full.

Out of town volunteers coming with food and staying for now a week still
serving it.

The Churches all over this part of the country doing what Christians do
in a crisis.

The Red Cross doing a great job in the shelters.

The Salvation Army doing a great job in the community.

Four Hundred crewman from everywhere bring back the power to our homes,
churches and businesses.

Lines at service stations a block to a mile long.

National Guardsman patrolling the streets of McComb along with Kentucky
policemen protecting us from the hoodlums and thugs of McComb, Pike
County and New Orleans (the most dangerous city in the world before
Katrina.)

Drug dealers working outside shelters.

Doctors, nurses and other hospital personnel working tirelessly, even
sleeping in the hospital to do the job God called them to do.


WHAT I HAVE NOT SEEN;

The ACLU setting up a feeding line.
People for the American Way helping in the shelters.
The NAACP doing any work whatsoever.

The American Atheist organization serving meals in the shelters.
Jesse Jackson directing traffic at the gas stations.

I could go on but you get my message. Its the Christian people with love
and compassion who do the work.

The gripers in Congress should come on down and get in line to pass the
water and the ice. Are you listening Hillary, Chuck, Teddy and all the
sorry loafers we call Senators and Congressmen. They don't have a clue as to what this life is all about here on the Gulf Coast.

Boy I feel better now.
 

langeweile

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DonQuixote said:
Langeweile. You truly are a moron.
You sit up in Ottawa and render judgment on a situation
that defies understanding and appreciation unless you
live through it. Walk the walk, before you make
these inane and vitriolic statements.

My god, man. You're thousands of miles away and you
sit on your royal throne passing judgment on others.
Making this a partisan battle doesn't make sense.

What the hell does the ACLU have to do with a hurricane
and water surges.

You are truly a moron.
Thanks for crediting me with this, but i am not that smart. This was send to me by a good friend from Florida...chill...
 

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langeweile said:
Subject: Katrina

Christian people giving, giving, giving.

Churches going all out to minister in Jesus' name.

The Churches all over this part of the country doing what Christians do
in a crisis.

Doctors, nurses and other hospital personnel working tirelessly, even
sleeping in the hospital to do the job God called them to do.
Funny, no one asked me if I was Christian or not when I made donations. Guess I must have slipped through the screening process.
 

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langeweile said:
The Churches all over this part of the country doing what Christians do in a crisis.
This is why the President's faith-based initiatives are the future of social government policy. To maintain a vast and all-encompassing bureaucratic social-services apparatus when faith-based communities are already there to do the job for free is rather like somebody buying over-priced apples at market when he lives in an orchard, and could get all the apples he wanted if he would only shake the tree...
 

langeweile

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DonQuixote said:
Homeland security is one of the largest programs.
His comment was that he would cut programs to
cover the expenses of the hurricanes rather than
raising taxes. Those were his words, not mine.
Just because the federal agencies are larger it
doesn't mean they are serving the needs and best
interests of the people.

But, I keep forgetting. He got his MBA from Harvard.
He must know what he's doing. Right???

He's one hell of a Conservative. Isn't he, langeweile?
Nation, no region, building. Bloated beaurocracy.
Poor planning of resources. We need more of his
kind. Not since LBJ have we had such blundering
incompetence. Both were/are from Texas.

And you question my political allegance to anarchists.
They're both a bunch of yahoo cowboys. Jerks.
The more reason to give goverment less money

http://truthlaidbear.com/porkbusters.php

Good reading DQ.
This should go a long way in combatting those that say, "Goverment has no money"

Interesting sidebar:
At the end of WW2 when the USA got involved, the renovation project of the senate building was delayed.
For some time the meetings were held under a contstruction site.. :D
 

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Truncador said:
This is why the President's faith-based initiatives are the future of social government policy. To maintain a vast and all-encompassing bureaucratic social-services apparatus when faith-based communities are already there to do the job for free is rather like somebody buying over-priced apples at market when he lives in an orchard, and could get all the apples he wanted if he would only shake the tree...
Correction: The President's faith-based initiatives are the end of social government policy. Your post is too sad and cruel to even laugh at. It is moronic, even Langeweile has more sense than you. To abandon the weak, the sick, the wounded veterans and the poor to the charity of some self-righteous right wing so called christians church people. The people like Pat Robertson, that the Prez hang out with are less christian than my dog is, and will, if there is a God, burn in Hell forever.

Callous scumbag.
 

langeweile

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DonQuixote said:
I agree to a point, langeweile.
The problem isn't giving the government money to spend on infrastructure
and other vital programs. The problem is how the elected officials function
once in power. And, I admit I have no solution to that problem.

The governments [federal, state and local] are necessary for the health
safety and welfare of we the people. We cannot function without a
governance. The problem is how that power is used once it is vested
in our leaders.

We don't downsize police and fire departments because of the failings of
a few. Nor do we downsize schools because of a few bad apples. No,
we demand accountability. Partisan politics seems to be an impedament
in our quest for quality servants. We need balance and diversity among
our elected officials. When one party [either D or R] controls all the power
then that party will bully its agenda down the throats of the rest of us.
Its called "Tyranny of the Majority". See JS Mills.

Don
I don't believe that the problem is necessarily with the elected officials. i think the problem is more with the bureaucrats, those guys are accountable to no one.
Elected officials will come and go, the bureaucrats on the other hand stay, most of time for life.

The issues around Katrina (and others) are not so much a failure of the elected officials, more so in the bureaucratic system.

When I came to the USA (the same was true for Canada), the amount of redtape and inefficencies I had to endure are worth writing a book about.

Yes goverment is necessary for a few thingss. I am not suggesting anarchy, BUT somehow we have to find the means to hold the bureaucrats accountable.
With politicians we have the power of the vote.
 

langeweile

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DonQuixote said:
To a point.

The elected officials are supposed to provide leadership.
One of Bush's many failures was not listening to bureaucrats.
Example, taking FEMA out of a cabinet position and putting it under
Homeland Security.
A motion passed by the majority in congress and the senate.
Of course nobody will admit to that.

Bigger is not always better... :D ..at lest that's what i tell my wife...LOL
 

langeweile

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DonQuixote said:
So. I fail to see your point.
Are you saying they forced it on him?
No
My point is, that at the time most people thought, that combining the agency was a good idea.
Now that the shit hit the fan, everybody wants to distance themselves, by partaking in an enquiry..how shameless.
Stand up and say it..it was an idea that didn't wotk, we are sorry. We go back to the drawing board and we try again.
Instead they are too busy ppointing fingers at each other or positioning themselves for the next election.

if the department for homeland security is really that bad...shit than we are all in trouble.
Stop the bickering and fu****g fix it...
 

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DonQuixote said:
I've noted we're all in trouble a long time ago.
Started in January 2001.
Like or not the Senate was wrong and has yet to say so.
 

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DonQuixote said:
I never met a trim, slender chef.
Or, are you in training?
Bro

when I did the gig I was 125 punds max

No time to eat a full meal when you are working 80 plus hours a week
 
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