One of the benefits of trying juveniles as adults are that it minimizes and stops crimes committed by minors
Juveniles should be tried and treated as adults
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There are slews of studies on why that isn't necessarily a smart idea. Depending on the crime, obviously, but trying to divert these kids from prison is better, since they can get counselling and avoid becoming institutionalized and hardened criminals. Our justice system, while far from perfect, is more focused on rehabilitation. Now, there are obvious issues with this, since we don't actually do a lot to reform people. But at the same time, sending a 13 year old to prison seems more harmful than helpful. We don't want an industrial-prison complex here in Canada like they have in the US.
Sometimes juveniles influence other children. Like remember your parent saying dont hang out with that guy is a bad influence but most juveniles get other kids to do crimes with them.
The physical and mental maturity of a child should be tested and he or she should be punished accordingly.
We already have mechanisms that do that. Underage suspects who do some heinous crimes have been charged as adults. The young offenders act (or whatever it's called, youth criminal justice act?) allows minors to be charged as adults when the crime is murder or other violent crimes.
I know its a thing that pisses people off, when some punk steals a car or assaults someone, and they get a slap on the wrist. But, intervention and diverting them from going into an adult institution has better outcomes.
Surely you mean that as a joke... right?
We have been incarcerating people... both young and old... for centuries... as our preferred way... of dealing with crime and criminals...
No one seems to notice... or care... that the rate of criminality... has steadily increased...
Perfect example of what Einstein said about "...doing the same things... over and over... and expecting different results"... it's insanity!
Perry
You’re joking right.
First - children stealing a chocolate bar at aged 12 because that is just what kids try at least once, should not be an adult based sentence. You can ruin a kid with an adult criminal record. Especially with getting a job in the future. Even a higher education can be denied.
Second - children and teens go through a physical hormonal and chemical change to their bodies and minds. During this time, acting out from confused emotions, lack of mental clarity and highly stressful situations like home and school life and can cause havoc on a child and some, wrongfully, lash out but still need to be taught the right way. Adults already had that support and education which is why their “choice” to the crime is held at a higher accountability. Some kids just don’t see the right and wrong of a criminal act.
Third - you are putting kids in jail with adults. Adult time comes with adult jails. But even in juvenile jails, it’s a master class in teaching other crimes.
diversion, consequence, education and accountability are needed but I’m the right way. As already stated, for more serious crimes like murder, adult charges can be laid. For the rest, youth act is just fine.
You are cutting kids off at the ankle with this proposal and then still expecting them to walk.
Way wrong assumptions.
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Try having a kid that has issues. It’s not black and white. Kid can be a really good person and have mental health problems that make them act out. Drugs are so easy to get and getting stronger/worse all the time. As much as you love them, they are not mature enough to see how bad their choice’s are. The last thing they need is a hardline adult charge to solidify their fate. Give them a chance to grow up and hopefully put it behind them.
If you have one loving parent growing up then probably when a kid turns 18 that he/she will have a mature mind, if the kid has not even one loving parent then maturity comes much later in life; usually after a series of screwups which may or may not include crime.
Sounds like a theory. Any hard evidence to support such a theory?
Back in the day, we use to have "reform schools" but I think the liberals got rid of them
There are still schools for troubled teens but they are really expensive.
"List of schools with support for troubled teens
These schools offer support for troubled teen behaviour to a segment of students through a wide range of placements. Environments offered may include dedicated, integrated, and withdrawal special needs classes, as well as regular classes with resource support and in-class adaptations."
Ya - don’t know what any of that has to do with what I said about charging teens as adults but you do you bro.
In Robert A Heinlein's novel Starship Troopers, set in a future where only military veterans are allowed to vote, the sentence for a juvenile criminal would be a public whipping - and the teen's father would also receive ten lashes, for raising a juvenile delinquent.
There is a certain logic to the voting restriction: The military service is voluntary, and a large percentage of the veterans die in combat before having the opportunity to vote. The privilege of voting is given only to those who have first demonstrated that they put the interests of the Human Race ahead of their own self interests.
There is a certain logic to the voting restriction: The military service is voluntary, and a large percentage of the veterans die in combat before having the opportunity to vote. The privilege of voting is given only to those who have first demonstrated that they put the interests of the Human Race ahead of their own self interests.
Our liberals would never allow this.
In Singapore, a kid gets caned for keying a car. Result: Kids no longer key cars.
Oh!! Like the current laws were just pulled out of someones ass? The juvi laws have resulted from decades of study. Back in the day it was ok to send 14 year olds to the electric chair, especially if they were black:
George Stinney - Wikipedia
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Akila Besos
Umm no. We have the youth law for a reason and it shouldn't be changed
Realistically the brain
isn't fully developed till about the age of 25-26. So saying that youth should be treated like adults isn't correct.
I have had friends come out of Juvenile Detentions and become functioning members of society who took that time to grow on themselves and better their skills . Minors don't deserve having an adult sentence on them unless it was a murderous situation.
Realistically the brain
isn't fully developed till about the age of 25-26. So saying that youth should be treated like adults isn't correct. I have had friends come out of Juvenile Detentions and become functioning members of society who took that time to grow on themselves and better their skills . Minors don't deserve having an adult sentence on them unless it was a murderous situation.
We need an EPA (Elder Protection Act) for old guys like me because my brain is shrinking. Hence, old guys like me are not legally responsible for any bad stuff we do. LOL!Realistically the brain
"As we get older, the number of nerve cells - or neurons - in the brain decrease. We start with around 100 billion, but in our 20s this number starts to decline.
By 40, we could be losing up to 10,000 per day, affecting memory, co-ordination and brain function."
They also cut your dick off for seeing prostitutes, shame our weak ass liberals do not have the courage to allow this.
