Job status advice

[newtohobby]

I need some advice

I was an electronics technician working at a small company 5-6 people going down hill when I left. Had a 25 percent pay cut and hours cut to 30 hours. I was there for 5.5 years. I left to go to another company.

The other company was totally different and the elements of that company affected my Eczema(skin condition). I couldn't take it so I quit that job.

I applied for EI and may or may not get it, I need to get a doctors note to justify my quiting the job. My doctor will do it so I probably get EI.

I was wondering if EI will pay for schooling if I want to go back? I have heard since I have a diploma, they will probably decline funded schooling. I have had friends that were welders and they wanted to do other stuff like truck driving and other stuff.

Do you think they will fund any schooling I would like to go to?

I've been looking for other jobs but nothing yet.

Should I wait for EI, go back to where I was working before even though I will quit again and just wait for other job opportunities?

 

[hunter001]

How bad to you need the money?

 

[newtohobby]

How bad to you need the money?

I can last for awhile

 

[hunter001]

There is a lot of variables. I wouldn't count of EI to help with retraining.

Good luck.

 

[hunter001]

If you wait for EI and it falls through will you still have the option to return to your previous employer?

 

[newtohobby]

well I can't wait for ever for EI to decide cause if I wait too long then my previous employer will have hired somebody else

 

[hunter001]

If you return to you old employer will you still have enough hour to qualify for E.I.? If business turns to crap will you be first in line to be laid off, thus enabling you to be eligible for E.I.?

I am just trying to think through possible scenarios.

 

[newtohobby]

I don;'t think I'll qualify for EI if I go back to my previous employer

 

[Malibook]

I was wondering if EI will pay for schooling if I want to go back? I have heard since I have a diploma, they will probably decline funded schooling. I have had friends that were welders and they wanted to do other stuff like truck driving and other stuff.

Do you think they will fund any schooling I would like to go to?

EI will not pay for your schooling.
Don't even mention your schooling because you are supposed to be available and looking for work.

When requesting regular benefits, including fishing benefits, you have the responsibility to:

* be willing and able to work at all times;
* actively look for work and keep a record of employers you contacted and when you contacted them;
* report all periods when you are not available for work;
* provide all required information and documents;
* keep appointments with our office;
* notify us of any separation from employment and the reasons for separation;
* report all employment, whether you work for someone else or for yourself;
* accurately report all earnings before deductions from employment, in the week(s) in which they were earned, as well as any other monies you may receive;
* report any absence from your area of residence;
* report any absence from Canada.


http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/en/ei/application/right_responsibilities.shtml#regular

 

[Malibook]

I need some advice

I was an electronics technician working at a small company 5-6 people going down hill when I left. Had a 25 percent pay cut and hours cut to 30 hours. I was there for 5.5 years. I left to go to another company.

The other company was totally different and the elements of that company affected my Eczema(skin condition). I couldn't take it so I quit that job.

How long have you been at the latest company?
Do you have enough hours there to qualify for EI?

How long after your pay and hours were cut was it that you quit?
If it was not a long time, you may have been able to collect EI then.
A significant reduction in hours and/or pay is grounds to quit and be considered a constructive dismissal.
You may also have been able to get some termination pay as well.

 

[Plan B]

I need some advice

I was an electronics technician working at a small company 5-6 people going down hill when I left. Had a 25 percent pay cut and hours cut to 30 hours. I was there for 5.5 years. I left to go to another company.

The other company was totally different and the elements of that company affected my Eczema(skin condition). I couldn't take it so I quit that job.

I applied for EI and may or may not get it, I need to get a doctors note to justify my quiting the job. My doctor will do it so I probably get EI.

I was wondering if EI will pay for schooling if I want to go back? I have heard since I have a diploma, they will probably decline funded schooling. I have had friends that were welders and they wanted to do other stuff like truck driving and other stuff.

Do you think they will fund any schooling I would like to go to?

I've been looking for other jobs but nothing yet.

Should I wait for EI, go back to where I was working before even though I will quit again and just wait for other job opportunities?

Getting EI to pay for training is a long process that rarely works as one would want it to. Once you're on EI, you can go to an Employment Assessment Centre. This is usually a non-profit centre that the Government has outsourced it service delivery to. Then you must see a Case Manager and explain your situation. Funds for training are rarely given to career changers, ex. mechanic wants to be a plumber. Funds are given for "skills enhancement" in your field, but getting them is a long and ardurous process. You have to do research, get quotes, fill forms. Many times your application is not approved. In some cases, applicants have to pay the half the total cost of the program and in some cases get full funding. I've seen it happen.

In some cases, it is a complete luck of the draw, as the particular agency you've gone to has to spend the money they have been alloted to by the government. So some people get very lucky. And in many cases, if you have a degree or diploma, your case manager will say no way, as they give preference to people who have more "barriers" to employment. Ex: Newcomer to Canada on Social Assistance.

Some Case Managers are real assholes too, and treat unemployed people like garbage, so heed this advice, and good luck

 

[Malibook]

In theory, but do they actually bother to check up on you?

I highly doubt it but if you tell them you are going to school and you want them to pay for it, they will not pay for the school and they will not pay your EI benefits either.

 

[Ol' Sodomy Sam]

I had to get my DZ licence where I work and took lessons from a truck driving school. I was the sole person in my class actually paying for the lessons- the others were on various forms of government funding. This doesn't speak to whether or not this funding is available if you have a current qualification, but someone is getting funding out there.

 

[Moraff]

Best place to ask would be the EI office. I have heard from friends that they are not very willing to retrain you into a different field. ie they would be more willing to help a trucker get other classes on his license rather than train him to be a welder sort of thing. I do not know how accurate their claim is.

Like I said, best to talk to EI about what your options are IMO.

 

[newtohobby]

In theory, but do they actually bother to check up on you?

I was on EI before and they sent me a letter telling me to meet them and show a list of companies I applied to. there was a group of 15 of us that had to do this/

 

[JD75]

Fact: if you are on EI and have a diploma in a certain field, you can only qualify for education funding is you can prove that it's next to impossible for you to find a job in your own field. My brother worked in digital arts for years and moved to another city as his wife was relocated. (her job was the higher paying of the two) He then qualified for EI and after a search in his own field, he met with a case manager who approved him to take an MCSE 40 week course. He's now a network administrator in a hospital.

He was frustrated by the long process it took to get the approval and had to research 2 or 3 different schools and make a case for himself. In the end it worked out.

When they fund a course, it's typically in a place like CDI College or any other condensed learning centre. If you think they'll send you to a 2 or 3 year program, you're dreaming.

Good luck!

 

[Malibook]

http://www.hrsdc.gc.ca/en/ei/information/training.shtml

You are taking a course on your own initiative

Taking a course or training program on your own initiative, without being directed to do so by a designated authority, does not automatically result in the loss of regular benefits. Although participation in a course is commendable, you must show that you are available to work while you are attending school. It is essential that you continue to look for work and that taking a course does not prevent you from being available to work or from accepting any appropriate offer of employment during normal working hours. You need to be ready to make all the necessary arrangements to hold a job or even drop the course if necessary.

Who is considered a designated authority?

Section 25 of the EI Act empowers authorized Human Resources and Social Development Canada (HRSDC) staff to refer individuals to courses or training programs or any other employment activities to facilitate their return to the labour market.

HRSDC also has agreements with a number of provinces and public and private organizations to act as designated authorities that may direct an individual who is receiving EI benefits to:

1. courses or training programs that individuals will take at their own expense, or
2. any other employment activity for which this person is receiving financial assistance.