It's not CO2 as Climate alarmists claim, it's Nitrogen

JuanGoodman

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it's obvious that CO2 can't have any major affects on climate since it's concentration in the atmosphere is only 0.04%

it was Nitrogen all along

with almost 80% concentration in the atmosphere, Nitrogen is your climate change culprit

liberal scientists lied yet again

 

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it's obvious that CO2 can't have any major affects on climate since it's concentration in the atmosphere is only 0.04%

it was Nitrogen all along

with almost 80% concentration in the atmosphere, Nitrogen is your climate change culprit

liberal scientists lied yet again

Anything to do with climate change is a lie.
 

JuanGoodman

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The disagreement should be with urgency. I personally think we should take steps toward reversing climate change, but not drastic knee jerk changes. The changes should be measured with the short to medium term impact on people being the first and foremost consideration.
"we don't even know how to take care of ourselves yet"

and arrogant lefties think that they can save the planet :ROFLMAO:
 

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What makes a gas a greenhouse gas is the size of the molecule and not the elementary atoms that make up the molecule. CO2 is a greenhouse gas because of the size of the molecule, Nitrogen is not a greenhouse gas because of the size of the molecule. Nitrous Oxide is a greenhouse gas because of the size of the molecule and not because it has nitrogen. Oxygen is not a greenhouse gas even though CO2 and NO, both of which are greenhouse gases, contain oxygen.
 

JuanGoodman

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What makes a gas a greenhouse gas is the size of the molecule and not the elementary atoms that make up the molecule. CO2 is a greenhouse gas because of the size of the molecule, Nitrogen is not a greenhouse gas because of the size of the molecule. Nitrous Oxide is a greenhouse gas because of the size of the molecule and not because it has nitrogen. Oxygen is not a greenhouse gas even though CO2 and NO, both of which are greenhouse gases, contain oxygen.
are you saying that this statement is a lie?

"The United Nations Environment Program’s (UNEP’s) 2018-2019 Frontiers Report called nitrogen pollution one of the most important pollution issues facing humanity. "
 

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The fact that nitrous oxide is a greenhouse gas does nothing to diminish that CO2 is a greenhouse gas.


Someone would need to be completely ignorant of science not to understand the difference between N2 (75% of the atmosphere) and N2O (300 parts per billion or 0.00003%).
 

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are you saying that this statement is a lie?

"The United Nations Environment Program’s (UNEP’s) 2018-2019 Frontiers Report called nitrogen pollution one of the most important pollution issues facing humanity. "
Pollution does not mean it affects climate. The only reference to Nitrogen and climate in that page you posted is Nitrous Oxide, and not nitrogen itself.
 

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Pollution does not mean it affects climate. The only reference to Nitrogen and climate in that page you posted is Nitrous Oxide, and not nitrogen itself.
"When nitrogen in its active form, such as in fertiliser, is exposed to soil, microbial reactions take place that release nitrous oxide. This gas is 300 times more potent at warming the atmosphere than carbon dioxide "
 
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"When nitrogen in its active form, such as in fertiliser, is exposed to soil, microbial reactions take place that release nitrous oxide. This gas is 300 times more potent at warming the atmosphere than carbon dioxide "
let me try it again, Nitrogen is not a greenhouse gas and oxygen is not a greenhouse gas even though Nitrous Oxide which contains both is a greenhouse gas. Carbon is not a greenhouse gas and oxygen is not a greenhouse gas even though CO2 which contains both is a greenhouse gas.
 
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let me try it again, Nitrogen is not a greenhouse gas and oxygen is not a greenhouse gas even though Nitrous Oxide which contains both is a greenhouse gas. Carbon is not a greenhouse gas and oxygen is not a greenhouse gas even though CO2 which contains both is a greenhouse gas.
can there be Nitrous Oxide without Nitrogen?
 

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I wish I could find the post on Instagram.

It was just a guy in a restaurant and he said " the most powerful nations in the world can't solve homelessness, but they think charging more taxes will change the temperature of the world"

Pretty much a true statement.
 

JuanGoodman

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I wish I could find the post on Instagram.

It was just a guy in a restaurant and he said " the most powerful nations in the world can't solve homelessness, but they think charging more taxes will change the temperature of the world"

Pretty much a true statement.
that's what is so crazy about this

lefties are educated enough to know what a green house gas is

but completely clueless when they are being scammed by their own government
 

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"Nitrogen pollution is the most influential global driver of human-made biodiversity decline after habitat destruction and the emission of greenhouse gases."

You really should not post clickbait headlines to back up yoour pre-concieved political bias without understanding organic chemistry, or even actually reading and comprehending what is being said.

You conflate inert elemental nitrogen that makes up 78% of our homogenous atmospheric gases with organic nitrogen compounds that may or not be active.

Nitrogen, in it's active forms like fertilizers causes things like algal blooms and resultant watershed pollution, fish kills etc. That is general pollution.

Nitrogen can be made into nitroglycerin so you could say nitrogen is causing wars.

Nitrogen oxides are indeed a more potent greenhouse gas but are a worse general pollutant.

Anyways, the point is that we, as humanity, need to stop increasingly polluting the water and air we exist on. You reduce it to an economic, political tribal issue and dismiss the cumulative effects because you can't see then, nor do you really understand the chemistry and physics.

Think of it this way. Pissing in your swimming pool is gross but not really perceptible ... until everyone does it all the time. Then, at some point, the urea loading and ph changes and the various random pathogens at imperceptible background levels suddenly reach the tipping point and then GROSS! Anyone who has owned a swimming pool or hot tub and has let the chemistry get away from them, realizes how difficult it is to try to bring it back under control. Shock treatments, ph adjustments, etc but you often end up having to dump the water and start fresh.

We can't do that with the sky and the ocean.
 
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SchlongConery

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that's what is so crazy about this

lefties are educated enough to know what a green house gas is

but completely clueless when they are being scammed by their own government
I agree with. you that carbon taxes are just another excuse to collect taxes. Taxes that we need to run our society, but dishonestly represented.
 
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