Is eating dairy bad for you?

[squash500]

I'm trying too lose a little bit of weight. As a result I went to my local library on the weekend and took out a book by Marilu Henner called The Total Body Makeover.

Marilu Henner has appeared on such tv shows as Taxi etc. This book was published way back in 1998 but I've seen recent pictures of Marilu Henner and she looks great. MH I believe has lost well over 40lbs since her Taxi days and has kept the weight off.

Anyway here is what she says about dairy. It is very bad for you and to avoid it completely. When talking about dairy; MH is referring to all cheese products and milk etc. MH also says that by cutting out dairy completely from your diet that you will have a much clearer complexion as well.

Just out of curiousity for the last two days I have totally eliminated any dairy products from my diet and my face has totally cleared up. Ironically I had a few small blemishes on my face I guess from eating so much cheese which I love.

Do my fellow terbites think MH is on to something or is she just full of s*** ?

As usual any comments both good or bad would be most appreciated.

 

[tboy]

well, cutting out anything totally isn't always "good" for you if you don't replace it with something. For example, you get all kinds of vitamins from dairy products so you'd have to replace them with a daily supplement or something.

You also get a lot of protein from dairy products and (speaking from experience) if you don't replace that, you're in for it.

I guess it all depends on your diet: are you eating a lot of dairy now? For eg: if you have one glass of milk a day and don't eat cheese, cutting it out won't affect you much. But if you make a lot of creamy sauces, lots of cheese dishes, then yeah, it will affect you.

I find the best way to lose weight is to reduce your calorie intake and increase your calorie outtake (in other words exercise more).

One guaranteed way to lose weight is to eat a little bit, often as opposed to eating 3 medium sized meals a day. If you eat a little every hour then your body tends to burn up anything you eat immediately because it "knows" it will get more fuel shortly. When you eat 3 meals a day your body thinks: it will be 4 hrs before I get more fuel, I better store some of this......

Oh and stick to reduced fat products/low calorie products. For eg: instead of having white pasta, eat whole grain pasta. Instead of having it with sauce, have it with reduced fat high amino acid margarine or soy marg. Instead of butter, use extra virgin olive oil. Instead of having a burger for lunch, have a chicken burger.

One thing about dairy products: a lot of it is high in cholesteral. (the bad kind). I found when I cut red meat out of my diet that I am SO lacking in protein but try and find a protein product that doesn't get it from fat, most get protein from fats.

 

[Ashton.]

I don't think dairy is bad for you. Everything in moderation. There are alot of vital nutrients in dairy.
That being said, I used to be a vegan. My reason for eliminating dairy was the mere fact that milk was designed by mother nature to turn a little baby calf into a mammoth cow in about a year. Not to mention the fact that humans are the only species to drink milk past infancy, and drink the milk of another species (except cats of course).
I think when it comes to dieting and healthy eating you need to experiment and find what works best for you. For every book that tells you to do one thing, you can find ten more telling you to avoid that very thing. Such is life.

 

[5hummer]

The idea of drinking a glass of milk wants o make me throw up.

But, I don't mind cheeses and milk in my coffee.

I've been to a few cafes that use Organic milk for their lattes and I do notice a difference in taste and how my body absorbs it.

 

[tboy]

There is also soy milk that has all the good stuff with none of the bad.

I still have trouble understanding how they get milk out of a bean that doesn't have tits!

 

[Ashton.]

There is also soy milk that has all the good stuff with none of the bad.

I still have trouble understanding how they get milk out of a bean that doesn't have tits!

Heheheheh..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCZRXW-pFcE

 

[squash500]

Dairy has benefits as a source of protein and yogurt has good stuff for your gut/bacteria. But at the same time a Dr told me to avoid dairy for skin issues. Ive cut back but still drink/eat dairy.

It's the skin issues that really interest me. MH in her book claims that your face will totally clear up if you eliminate all dairy from your diet.

Just too repeat myself I did have few blemishes on my face. Not bad acne or anything but just a few red blotches. I looked at my face this morning in the mirror and my whole face is totally blotch and acne free.

I haven't had a glass of milk in over 5 years but I do eat a lot of cheese. Just cutting out cheese for 2 days has cleared up my face.

You're 100% right Ashton. One book says one thing and another book says the exact opposite. It's hard to figure out who to really believe .

 

[ultraviolet]

I prefer almond milk over cow milk for the same reasons Ashton stated.
Someone once told me that milk is basically liquid fat.
Made me think of drinking right out of a lyposuction bag *eww*

 

[tboy]

Heheheheh..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCZRXW-pFcE

and that's where I got it from...Lewis is frickin FUNNY......

 

[rafterman]

Nothing like chugging ice cold milk straight from the container after eating a peanut butter sandwich. You can go with low fat milk, I find the skim is too watery but 1% is fine. Homo (3.25%) now tastes like cereal cream to me.

Yogurt and cottage cheese are also important source of calcium and vitamin D.

 

[Cycleguy007]

Nothing wrong with dairy products including milk... It IS a "food group" dontcha know...

What you need to cut out all together is processed foods. (Anything from a "fast food" joint, lower end restaurants and microwave dinners/ meals in a can etc.)

Cut that crap out of your diet, exercise for a minimum 1 hr a day (even if it is just a brisk walk...) and the lbs will melt away. Trust me... I KNOW!

Unless you are a vegan or vegetarian, eat from all four food groups (in moderation of course):

1. Fresh meats/ fish/ poultry etc
2. Fruits & Vegetables
3. Whole grains
4. Dairy products

 

[Nefari]

Not to mention the fact that humans are the only species to drink milk past infancy, and drink the milk of another species.

I vote we start getting our nutrients from women!

 

[JEFF247]

Diets are for losers? But not weight losers.

I'm trying too lose a little bit of weight. As a result I went to my local library on the weekend and took out a book by Marilu Henner called The Total Body Makeover.

Marilu Henner has appeared on such tv shows as Taxi etc. This book was published way back in 1998 but I've seen recent pictures of Marilu Henner and she looks great. MH I believe has lost well over 40lbs since her Taxi days and has kept the weight off.

Anyway here is what she says about dairy. It is very bad for you and to avoid it completely. When talking about dairy; MH is referring to all cheese products and milk etc. MH also says that by cutting out dairy completely from your diet that you will have a much clearer complexion as well.

Just out of curiousity for the last two days I have totally eliminated any dairy products from my diet and my face has totally cleared up. Ironically I had a few small blemishes on my face I guess from eating so much cheese which I love.

Do my fellow terbites think MH is on to something or is she just full of s*** ?

As usual any comments both good or bad would be most appreciated.

Limit calories and exercise. You don't have to go into marathon training, just be active.

OK calories. Most men burn 15 calories per lb. of weight. I am 185, so round it off, I burn about 3000/day calories on my own. You lose a lb for every 3500 calories you burn more than you take in. So if I limit myself to 2500 calories a day, I will burn 3500 (7x500) calories more after one week. I lose one pound.

All these "targeted" exercise machine and low card citrus diets are bullshit. And by the way, I eat whatever I want, I just limit the calories. Eat a good fiber breakfast to get the metabolism going. You have to do this and do it for the rest of you life. It's not a "fad diet" but a lifestyle change that will get your wait down. If you don't change your life style you will just get the fat back.

I don't mean to prech, but I see to many people paying the MLH of the world gazillions of dollars and not getting anywhere. You do make MLH rich and I am sure she believes her BS. I would too if it was making me a millionaire!!!!

PS-I eat out less. Most places give you way to much of crappy food. I do more at home and enjoy my meals much better now. McDonalds, BK or Wendy's never. They give you a little crap food with LOTS of calories. OK. Done.

 

[Cycleguy007]

Limit calories and exercise. You don't have to go into marathon training, just be active.

OK calories. Most men burn 15 calories per lb. of weight. I am 185, so round it off, I burn about 3000/day calories on my own. You lose a lb for every 3500 calories you burn more than you take in. So if I limit myself to 2500 calories a day, I will burn 3500 (7x500) calories more after one week. I lose one pound.

All these "targeted" exercise machine and low card citrus diets are bullshit. And by the way, I eat whatever I want, I just limit the calories. Eat a good fiber breakfast to get the metabolism going. You have to do this and do it for the rest of you life. It's not a "fad diet" but a lifestyle change that will get your wait down. If you don't change your life style you will just get the fat back.

I don't mean to prech, but I see to many people paying the MLH of the world gazillions of dollars and not getting anywhere. You do make MLH rich and I am sure she believes her BS. I would too if it was making me a millionaire!!!!

PS-I eat out less. Most places give you way to much of crappy food. I do more at home and enjoy my meals much better now. McDonalds, BK or Wendy's never. They give you a little crap food with LOTS of calories. OK. Done.

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU JEFF! Except for the eat anything you want part. Eat anything you want in REAL food, not the fake processed crap most of those so called food companies try and force down our throats.

The key words in your post however are "LIFESTYLE CHANGE"!

 

[A.J. Raven]

Cutting out a food, or a food group is never a good idea. The key is to slightly alter the version of the food to it's healthier version.

If you like cheese, choose a low fat cheese like mozzarella or swiss, or choose a very flavourful cheese so you can use less of it to achieve the same flavour, for example, buy old cheddar and use one slice instead of multiple slices of medium or mild. Hard cheeses like parmasean offer a lot of flavour with just a little sprinkle.

Yogourt (mentioned above) is an excellent source of dairy goodness and low / no fat versions are great! After a week or so of drinking skim milk you won't know the difference from 2% or whole. A good option is buying plain yogourt and flavouring it yourself with a few drops of vanillaa and some fruit.

Someone above mentioned avoiding (over) processed foods - superb advice! The closer a food is to it's natural occuring state, the better it is for you.

 

[JEFF247]

Exactly!!

I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU JEFF! Except for the eat anything you want part. Eat anything you want in REAL food, not the fake processed crap most of those so called food companies try and force down our throats.

The key words in your post however are "LIFESTYLE CHANGE"!

I probably exaggerated a bit. I eat healthy, but that should not mean a life of rice cakes. A slice of pizza or a bag of chips is OK once in a LONG while. These diets with nothing but grapefruits and rice cakes or BS. You need to learn what to eat for health and filling up. And I think once you get going the foods that are good for you make sense instead of the empty calories we were eating.

 

[squash500]

Cutting out a food, or a food group is never a good idea. The key is to slightly alter the version of the food to it's healthier version.

If you like cheese, choose a low fat cheese like mozzarella or swiss, or choose a very flavourful cheese so you can use less of it to achieve the same flavour, for example, buy old cheddar and use one slice instead of multiple slices of medium or mild. Hard cheeses like parmasean offer a lot of flavour with just a little sprinkle.

Yogourt (mentioned above) is an excellent source of dairy goodness and low / no fat versions are great! After a week or so of drinking skim milk you won't know the difference from 2% or whole. A good option is buying plain yogourt and flavouring it yourself with a few drops of vanillaa and some fruit.

Someone above mentioned avoiding (over) processed foods - superb advice! The closer a food is to it's natural occuring state, the better it is for you.

AJ what you're saying makes sense but I can't totally agree with you. In 2001 I was in the best shape of my life by following MH's program. Recently I've been going to Metro and buying those low fat free cheese slices that are full of preservatives and they don't help my weight or complexion one bit.

I'm just going to try a little experiment. I'm going off all dairy products for a week and see what happens. I have nothing to lose but weight .

I have a very obsessive personality and very little willpower. I'm better off just cutting out cheese cold turkey as opposed to cutting down my portion sizes. I just can't limit myself to one slice--lol.

When I cut off dairy totally in 2001 after reading MH's book for the first time I lost 15 pounds. MH's program is quite radical so I'm only going to implement a couple of her suggestions.

 

[A.J. Raven]

AJ what you're saying makes sense but I can't totally agree with you. In 2001 I was in the best shape of my life by following MH's program. Recently I've been going to Metro and buying those low fat free cheese slices that are full of preservatives and they don't help my weight or complexion one bit.

I didn't say low-fat processed cheese products. I said lower fat cheese - naturally. Mozzarella is NATURALLY lower in fat, but it isn't processed cheese food - ITS CHEESE!

Hehehe...

 

[thompo69]

Maybe it's just me, but I'm not about to take health advice from a washed up B-list actress. There are many ways to lose weight, but there is an enormous difference between being thin, and being healthy.

There has been some solid advice here, but any program that advocates the removal of an entire food group is crap.

 

[canada-man]

dairy is bad for you if you are lactose intollerant