Is Canada really an independant country?
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It's kind of like global Warming/Climate change ; you know how when it suddenly gets warmer when its not supposed to all you hear about is Global Warning ( This is a comment on media response, not on the actual phenomenon)
Same thing happens when Canada agrees with another country, (especially the US) all of a sudden we are not our own country anymore.
Sad really
Same thing happens when Canada agrees with another country, (especially the US) all of a sudden we are not our own country anymore.
Sad really
So whenever one state "accommodates" another allied state they do not have real independence?
If I spent enough time trawling through the TERB archives I am sure that I could find posts criticizing the Bush administration for not sufficently "accommodating" U.S. allies.
Peculiar what some choose to label "accommodation" is generally termed diplomacy.
If I spent enough time trawling through the TERB archives I am sure that I could find posts criticizing the Bush administration for not sufficently "accommodating" U.S. allies.
Peculiar what some choose to label "accommodation" is generally termed diplomacy.
So some nasty American held a pistol to the P.M.'s head? Sounds to me like Mervyn was right on the money.
You were 'conned' by some slick slippery talking con-artists.
No need for a pistol....
It's not that we're america's ho that I object to, but that I think we're selling our ass too cheaply. We ought up our rates big time.
We did, however, say no to fighting in Iraq.
Obviously Canada is an independent country. Quite obviously too the USA is quite 10x bigger than we are and that quite obviously has a lot of influence on the decisions we make.
Saying that means we're not independent though, well that's trolling.
It's interesting to note that Canada's strong advocacy international institutions like the UN, WTO, G20, etc., is likely related to the influence the Americans have over us: If we can convince everyone that every country should be bound by a set of rules administered by an international system then that somewhat binds the Americans and leaves us less vulnerable to whimsy policy on their part, it makes life more predictable for us if there are rules they have to follow.
In light of this you can see why it was so important for Canada to make an example of NOT fighting in Iraq despite a deep desire to co-operate with our Southern neighbours: It's important to us that the Americans exercise their policies in the context of international organizations and so it went completely against our interests to join them in a war outside of one.
In Afghanistan, however, with the blessing of the UN and NATO and so on, we were quite pleased to go along.
What about every other country that went there as well? Would you say the same about Britain and Australia who also are there.
Do you have any better examples ?
The anti personnel land mine treaty that Canada spearheaded and that the U.S. refused to sign and that was ratified and in force without U.S. agreement.
Ok...but why did we do that? Did we do that because it was morally right? Or did we do that to yield the Americans a tactical advantage lol... it is a good thing though.
LOL I see. When some citizens don't like the actions of their government, that was elected democratically and made decisions in the existing framework, they start whining that their country is now not independent. Nice. What are you people? Children?
