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Iran shot down plane full of Canadians intentionally in act of terrorism, Ontario judge rules

Cantaro

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Another barbaric Islamic government, shooting down a civilian plane.


A jury will now decide how much Iran should pay the victims. 'We will seize and sell any Iranian assets worldwide that we can get our hands on,' their lawyer said.

Iran intentionally shot down an airliner packed with Canadian citizens and residents more than a year ago in an act of terrorism, an Ontario judge has ruled, adding judicial heft to allegations the crash was not just a tragic accident.

The decision issued Thursday opens the door to an unusual legal spectacle — a civil jury of six ordinary Canadians deciding how much compensation the Middle Eastern power must pay victims of Flight PS752.

The plaintiffs asked in their statement of claim for $1.5 billion.

“When those people were killed on that plane, that was a community event,” said Mark Arnold, the Toronto lawyer handling the case. “This is an event affecting all of us and it is appropriate and right for the community to decide in its wisdom what the compensation should be.”
When those people were killed on that plane, that was a community event
Iran did not defend the suit, the court declaring it “in default.”

The jury hearing on damages is likely to take place within the next three months, Arnold said.

The biggest challenge, however, will be collecting whatever compensation the jurors award from a country that has said it does not recognize Canadian legal proceedings over the crash, said the lawyer.

“We will seize and sell any Iranian assets worldwide that we can get our hands on,” he said. “Oil tankers full of oil heading to Venezuela, Gibraltar, South Korea, Thailand, Australia. We will invoke the assistance of any foreign court that might assist us…. It is possible to do. Takes a lot of work but it’s possible to do.”

The Ukrainian International Airlines plane crashed outside Tehran on Jan. 8 2020, killing 176 passengers and crew in what was a largely Canadian tragedy. The victims included 55 citizens of this country and 30 permanent residents, among 138 passengers heading to Canada via Kyiv, many of them students returning after the Christmas break.

The incident came days after the assassination of Iranian General Qassem Soleimani by a U.S. drone, and Iran’s retaliatory missile strike on an American base in Iraq.

Iranian authorities originally claimed the crash was an accident, but under pressure admitted that air defence forces had mistakenly fired two missiles at the Boeing 737 amid tension with the United States.

In a long-awaited report issued this March, Iranian authorities claim the plane was shot down after being misidentified as a “hostile target” due to human error.

But the report was widely dismissed, including by the Canadian government, for failing to answer key questions.

The lawsuit began as a class action, but a decision earlier by another judge gave the green light — called “carriage” in legal terms — to a separate suit to be the sole class action.

The terrorism case was allowed to go ahead as a regular civil suit, though, and Arnold said that as many victims’ families as want can join the case as it moves on.

Unlike the remaining class-action suit, it did not just allege mere negligence by Iran, but a deliberate attack, which would make it liable under the Justice for Victims of Terrorism Act.

Justice Edward Belobaba of Ontario’s Superior Court of Justice concluded on a balance of probabilities “that the missile attacks on Flight 752 were intentional and directly caused the deaths of all onboard.”

A balance of probabilities in civil cases is a less stringent burden of proof than the “beyond-a-reasonable-doubt” onus required in criminal trials.

When civil defendants are in default, courts usually deem that to mean they admit the truth of the allegation, said Belobaba. But the defendants in this case represent a foreign government and are covered by Canada’s State Immunity Act, so the plaintiffs had to show that the lawsuit is permitted under applicable federal law, he said.

Belobaba cited in part a report by Ralph Goodale, appointed by Ottawa to investigate the incident, and another by a UN human rights council investigator that questioned Iran’s claim the shoot-down happened by human error.

He also quoted submissions provided by two experts retained by the plaintiffs — Alireza Nader of the Washington, D.C.-based Foundation for the Defense of Democracies and Bahman Jeldi of the Canadian Society for Persian Studies — who concluded that the missile strike must have been intentional.

The judge also said that there was no armed conflict in the region at the time, an exception that would have prevented the Victims of Terrorism Act from applying to the case.

 

nottyboi

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Sorry I don't see a motive here . I don't see what Iran stands to gain from shooting this plane down. I also don't understand what they mean by "intentional". Did they aim the missiles at the plane with the intent to destory it? Yes. But did they understand this was a civilian airliner? No I don't think so. I would be open to any motive anyone can offer as to why they would want to shoot down this plane. I think verdicts like these tend to diminish the credibility of our courts.
 

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Sorry I don't see a motive here . I don't see what Iran stands to gain from shooting this plane down. I also don't understand what they mean by "intentional". Did they aim the missiles at the plane with the intent to destory it? Yes. But did they understand this was a civilian airliner? No I don't think so. I would be open to any motive anyone can offer as to why they would want to shoot down this plane. I think verdicts like these tend to diminish the credibility of our courts.
If the crew operating the missile done their job they would’ve known the flight was scheduled it would’ve been following the flight path and altitude as directed from the Air controllers Excuse that they thought it was American plane is bullshit if and when the Americans attack Iran it will be with massive cruise missile strikes Fired from beyond the range of Iran’s ability to strike back What’s the air defenses are eliminated then manned flights will fly over
 

nottyboi

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If the crew operating the missile done their job they would’ve known the flight was scheduled it would’ve been following the flight path and altitude as directed from the Air controllers Excuse that they thought it was American plane is bullshit if and when the Americans attack Iran it will be with massive cruise missile strikes Fired from beyond the range of Iran’s ability to strike back What’s the air defenses are eliminated then manned flights will fly over
If if if. That is not a motive. Even the canadian govt said the iranian explaination was plauseable. At least offer me a theory of a motive.
 

Mr Deeds

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If true im pretty sure the Iranians wont give a shit. So the trial is a waste of time and money.
 
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