Iran "needs" 50,000 centrifuges

[basketcase]

Seems that Iran's nuclear chief says Iran need 50,000 centrifuges including 30,000 more advanced ones to meet it's domestic fuel needs.
http://tehrantimes.com/politics/115...es-to-fuel-bushehr-power-plant-nuclear-chief-

I guess that one power plant is a real fuel hog


Even worse, they are insisting under the NPT they have the right to enrich fuel to 90%.

 

[nottyboi]

Seems that Iran's nuclear chief says Iran need 50,000 centrifuges including 30,000 more advanced ones to meet it's domestic fuel needs.
http://tehrantimes.com/politics/115...es-to-fuel-bushehr-power-plant-nuclear-chief-

I guess that one power plant is a real fuel hog


Even worse, they are insisting under the NPT they have the right to enrich fuel to 90%.

that is 30T of 5% uranium. How do you know that is out of whack? Are you a nuclear expert?

 

[fuji]

that is 30T of 5% uranium. How do you know that is out of whack? Are you a nuclear expert?

Because we know how much fuel their reactor requires. It had been discussed in detail with references on many of these threads. Your ignorance does not justify your shitty reply.

 

[nottyboi]

Because we know how much fuel their reactor requires. It had been discussed in detail with references on many of these threads. Your ignorance does not justify your shitty reply.

A 1 GW reactor of the latest design requires about 21T of fuel a year, the German/Russian abortion that is in Iran would probably require more. I have seen details, if you need 21 T then making 30 to stockpile some in case of sanctions, bombing, technical failures etc is more then reasonable. So as usual you are full of SHIT. Please stop you silly fear mongering. Besides, it does not matter if Iran makes 10,000 tons of 5% or 20% they still cannot build a bomb.

 

[basketcase]

that is 30T of 5% uranium. How do you know that is out of whack? Are you a nuclear expert?

Considering the US which supplies over 100 reactors has less centrifuges than Iran already has for their 1 reactor it's pretty clear. Combine that with their statement that they want 90% enriched (which has no civilian purpose) and Iran is giving the world more than enough reason to be concerned.

 

[nottyboi]

Considering the US which supplies over 100 reactors has less centrifuges than Iran already has for their 1 reactor it's pretty clear. Combine that with their statement that they want 90% enriched (which has no civilian purpose) and Iran is giving the world more than enough reason to be concerned.

He did not say that, WTF, he said "under the nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT), Iran is entitled to enrich uranium to a purity level of up to 90 percent, adding that the Islamic Republic will not relinquish its right to uranium enrichment. "

can you not read english? :frusty:

Are you saying Iranian centrifuges are equal to American centrifuges? That alone is idiotic considering the US was the first country to enter the nuclear age almost 80 years ago...

 

[basketcase]

He did not say that,

What didn't he say?
He said they want way more centrifuges. He said they should have the right to enrich to 90%.
Both are ridiculous claims.

No civilian purpose for anywhere near as many centrifuges as they already have. No civilian purpose for 90% Uranium.

Are you saying Iranian centrifuges are equal to American centrifuges?...

Try reading the IAEA reports. Iran is continually installing advanced centrifuges.


Is there any world where Iran should have 90% Uranium? What civilian purpose could it possibly have?

 

[basketcase]

p.s. The NPT allows production of nuclear material for non-weapon purposes. 90% has no purpose other than weaponization. There is no civilian purpose for fuel greater than 20%. That means any enrichment to levels higher than 20% would be a violation.

Here's the full text.
http://www.un.org/disarmament/WMD/Nuclear/NPTtext.shtml

 

[groggy]

What didn't he say?
He said they want way more centrifuges. He said they should have the right to enrich to 90%.
Both are ridiculous claims.

No civilian purpose for anywhere near as many centrifuges as they already have. No civilian purpose for 90% Uranium.




Try reading the IAEA reports. Iran is continually installing advanced centrifuges.


Is there any world where Iran should have 90% Uranium? What civilian purpose could it possibly have?

Straw man argument.

Iran is a signatory to the NPT and should be allowed to enrich fuel for peaceful reactors while under inspection.
You've been reading too many faked Israeli reports again.
Israel should just sign the NPT and start the journey towards becoming as peaceful a country as Iran.

 

[nottyboi]

What didn't he say?
He said they want way more centrifuges. He said they should have the right to enrich to 90%.
Both are ridiculous claims.

No civilian purpose for anywhere near as many centrifuges as they already have. No civilian purpose for 90% Uranium.




Try reading the IAEA reports. Iran is continually installing advanced centrifuges.


Is there any world where Iran should have 90% Uranium? What civilian purpose could it possibly have?

Can you not read? He said the NPT gives them the right to enrich up to 90%, he never said they were going to do it. He says what the current gen centrifuges are capable off, and why he needs 50K first gen machines. Stop reading through a lens of paranoia and maybe you will comprehend what is written instead of listening to the voices in your head.

 

[nottyboi]

p.s. The NPT allows production of nuclear material for non-weapon purposes. 90% has no purpose other than weaponization. There is no civilian purpose for fuel greater than 20%. That means any enrichment to levels higher than 20% would be a violation.

Here's the full text.
http://www.un.org/disarmament/WMD/Nuclear/NPTtext.shtml

If there is no reason to have highly enriched uranium or plutonium, why does Japan have half a tonne of the stuff:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/24/w...-us-assume-control-of-nuclear-cache.html?_r=0

They are a very prominent NPT member.


as you can see there are other uses for HEU:

http://www.nti.org/analysis/articles/civilian-uses-heu/

 

[fuji]

Can you not read? He said the NPT gives them the right to enrich up to 90%, he never said they were going to do it. He says what the current gen centrifuges are capable off, and why he needs 50K first gen machines. Stop reading through a lens of paranoia and maybe you will comprehend what is written instead of listening to the voices in your head.

The only reason Iran needs that many is so when they decide to make the leap to weapons grade they can produce their first bomb before anybody figures out what they are doing.

They will wait until they have a long range missile and a warhead to go with it, produce the bomb, and then start threatening everyone.

 

[nottyboi]

Here is list of counties in possession of highly enriched uranium (Canada has over 1000kg!!!)

http://fissilematerials.org/materials/heu.html

So please stop your pant wetting.

 

[fuji]

Here is list of counties in possession of highly enriched uranium (Canada has over 1000kg!!!)

http://fissilematerials.org/materials/heu.html

So please stop your pant wetting.

Canada is not a state sponsor of terror. That is the issue here: Iran is a belligerent dictatorship that is engaged in multiple cold wars, and which has a history of openly sponsoring terrorism.

If Australia were developing a nuclear weapon no one would care.

 

[nottyboi]

Canada is not a state sponsor of terror. That is the issue here: Iran is a belligerent dictatorship that is engaged in multiple cold wars, and which has a history of openly sponsoring terrorism.

If Australia were developing a nuclear weapon no one would care.

Of course they would, people were pretty upset when India tested a nuclear weapon and they are not known for belligerence. The fact is, HEU has other applications so screaming that Iran has no other use for it then to nuke Israel is paranoia and a big fat lie.

 

[nottyboi]

The only reason Iran needs that many is so when they decide to make the leap to weapons grade they can produce their first bomb before anybody figures out what they are doing.

They will wait until they have a long range missile and a warhead to go with it, produce the bomb, and then start threatening everyone.

That is nonsense. They will gain nothing from threats because they know exactly what will happen if they use a nuclear weapon. What it WILL do it make it much harder for others to threaten Iran. In either case. they are open to negotiation and even if they do ever acquire nukes, it will not be more then a small stockpile to guarantee their security,

 

[fuji]

That is nonsense. They will gain nothing from threats because they know exactly what will happen if they use a nuclear weapon. What it WILL do it make it much harder for others to threaten Iran.

In other words, nuclear weapons will help shield Iran from retaliation over its terrorist activities. Iran will then step up its support for terror. Unacceptable.

 

[nottyboi]

In other words, nuclear weapons will help shield Iran from retaliation over its terrorist activities. Iran will then step up its support for terror. Unacceptable.

more blathering, the US uses its thousands of weapons to fund terror all over the place. OMG Kazakstan has over 1000 KG or HEU!! OMG OMG WE ARE GONNA DIE!!!!:fear::fear::fear:

 

[fuji]

more blathering, the US uses its thousands of weapons to fund terror all over the place. OMG Kazakstan has over 1000 KG or HEU!! OMG OMG WE ARE GONNA DIE!!!!:fear::fear::fear:

Bullshit. All you are doing here is labeling yourself as a kook who hates the west and perversely supports really evil dictators that massacre civilians and sponsor terror.

Only a depraved loon like you would downplay the suicide bombings and open contempt for civilian life Iran has demonstrated.

 

[nottyboi]

Bullshit. All you are doing here is labeling yourself as a kook who hates the west and perversely supports really evil dictators that massacre civilians and sponsor terror.

Only a depraved loon like you would downplay the suicide bombings and open contempt for civilian life Iran has demonstrated.

I have said already I don't like the Iranian regime, they are quite evil, but the cost of removing them would be far too high in terms of civilian losses. So I really don't like this march to war propaganda. Iran has a moderate leader now, there is an opportunity for engagement. Not a time to escalate an villify. As for Irans attacks against Israel, they are both attacking each other quite regularly so its just war.