Internet Porn

[yoniluvrca]

I am wondering something. Internet porn sites ie. katesplayground, Innocent eve, Little April etc-there seem to be hundreds if not thousands-I wonder how these sites are run. Does some guy have an idea and then hire a model ? Are the girls running it for themselves?(seems unlikely) Is there some sort or porn-corporation/syndicate that owns them all? Is it all but a dream within a dream?

I have not seen a lot of internet porn. The othe night, following a link found on Terb, I entered this world. Quickly it became like a loop with the same sites showing up over and over. I can see how guys get addicted to the stuff. It took me a while to extract my self.

Also what I noticed is that many sites were, to me, just boardering on being kiddie porn. I mean they are mainstream sites-obviously leagal and the modles are 18-but the look is so blatantly underaged.
For instance, "Little April" has braces and to my eye looks about 15. I wonder what the legality of this is vs "societies" standards of morality. ( And as I write this I realise that there really is no society-just me and whether or not I view this stuff)

But it does seem a bit strange to me that we live in a society that so heavily punishes pedophiles yet has such material available at the finger tips. What I see is that those sites are essentially KP even if the models are all over 18.

Strange planet we live on.

YL-wishing to visit a saner planet soon

 

[Paul Waters]

The is like a line in the sand. You are legal on one side, and illegal on the other. But it is a binary situation. 1 or 0. Legal or illegal.

You see shades of grey. Ethics are like this. The law should not be.

Some people believe that there should be no porn at all. Some poeple believe that David Hamilton's work was kiddie porn.

I think most people agree that at some age a girl should be able to make her choice, but prior to that age, she must be protected from herself because she does not yet possess adult judgement.

I think most people will agree that that age very much depends on the girl.

Same arguement could be made about the drinkiing age.

But are we to make every server make a judgement call?

As for making the girls look younger that 18.... for some reason that is much bigger in the "spam markets" that casual surfers like yourself encounter. The oldest most profitable sites stay a little further from that line in the sign because they have much more at risk.

Our teenage girls want to get sexy and sexual at much younger ages. I think the average age of first intercourse is now 15 in Toronto. How old was Brittney Spears when she first started flashing her middrift and underwear on stage?

And... you really don't want to know how the porn world works....

 

[ocean976124]

Problem is you can't legally go after anything if the people are 18+. On what basis would you go after them? Would you claim that depicting illegal activity should be illegal? Well then the movie Ocean's Eleven could never be made.

 

[yoniluvrca]

Problem is you can't legally go after anything if the people are 18+. On what basis would you go after them? Would you claim that depicting illegal activity should be illegal? Well then the movie Ocean's Eleven could never be made.

Actually I am not suggesting that we should "go after" anyone.

What I was wondering about was the actual mechanics of it all. Who the young women are, who makes the most money from the sites, how long is a career-stuff like that.

I actually see that ultimately it is a personal responsibility whether or not to view such material. Just as the decision to steal something from a store, download a song or for that matter kill someone, is really a matter of self responsibility.

We live on a planet where killing humans is mostly illegal. But given the right circumstances, war, one is a hero for killing the right people. There is an energy associated with this. It says-Thou Shalt Not Kill-except when I say it is okay to do so. Seems to me that the question to ask is who the "I" is that says it is okay to kill, or to veiw questionable porn.

And let me also note that the novel "Lolita" and the Kubrick film of the same name are two of my favourite pieces of literature and film respectively. The theme of how our passions can blind us to a deeper reality fascinates me like no other.

The law may be black and white, perhaps it needs to be this way, but a human being is not black and white. Nor is s/he shades of grey. We are multi coloured organisms alive in many dimesions at the same time. Perhaps some of our trouble is that we constantly deny this truth and try to fit ourselves in to the black/white mold.

YL

 

[Paul Waters]

What I was wondering about was the actual mechanics of it all. Who the young women are, who makes the most money from the sites, how long is a career-stuff like that.

There are many different stories. Some are despirate for money and respond to an ad in the paper. The anti-porn people love these stories, and sadly there are too many of them.

Others look at it as a stunt that is fun and that gets them a few bucks.

Some take it as a serious way to cover the high cost of school.

And a very, very, few, take it as a serious career with a desire to make a lot of money.

And when you get to EE and SA, where religious morality is not much of an issue, it is a well paying gig for girls lucky enough to have the looks.

Most sites pay 55-60% of their revenue to the people who deliver traffic to them. They also pay 12-15% to the payment processing company.

The traffic generators and payment processors make the most money.

Most girls are in the biz for weeks, and count the number of their shoots in single digits.

The wons that are serious, like Dani Ashe, Carol Cox and Wifey have made millions.

To get someone with the maturity and drive of 35, when they are still 19......

I actually see that ultimately it is a personal responsibility whether or not to view such material.

Seems to me that the question to ask is who the "I" is that says it is okay to kill, or to veiw questionable porn.

Just don't ask people here to look at a site you are questioning yourself....

Perhaps some of our trouble is that we constantly deny this truth and try to fit ourselves in to the black/white mold.

I think the bigger problem is people who fit others into black or white molds.