Interest Free housing for Muslims In canada

[superman]

well the trend is starting in Winnepeg...why does the Gov't bend for 1 religion

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/housing-co-op-to-serve-muslim-immigrants-51015137.html

 

[destillat]

my religion forbids me from pay my utility bills... WTF???

 

[lawyerman]

I respect (not completely agree) with all religions as some of them have their good and not so good points.

I have read the Qu'ran and it is a book that is often misunderstood and misinterpreted and overall very peaceful although some things I do not agree with.

This is definitely one of them.

Not to be a smartass but are the new immigrants allowed to bring their 4 wives with them as well?

 

[mandrill]

It's a coop. A coop company buys the land and then people apply to join. They collectively pay down the mortgage and the other costs and have the right to reside in the unit. Apparently in this case, this is an acceptable way for Muslims to pay the "interest" on the mortgage without offending their religion.

There are 100's of coops in TO and they are open to applications from all peoples or else directed at certain target groups. They operate in the same fashion, although of course the prohibition of paying interest is not a driving motivation for the setting the other coops up.

So, no special treatment for Muslims. Go find someone else to bash!

 

[eldoguy]

Don't forget they get to marry there cousins! Canada needs more hemophliac men, to add more burden to the universal free health care! Wtf, maybe no body else wants live in winter pig?

 

[Nefari]

you can marry yours too if you want to do so. It's legal to marry your first cousins in Canada

That is true! One of my First cousin, married her first cousin (on her father's side)!
She now lives in L.A. with him

 

[GotGusto]

I'd marry my first cousin if she was hot and would give me head every day. Some guys have all the luck.

 

[Never Compromised]

I would love to marry my cousin (if she was not already married), and being adopted it would not bother me at all!

As for Muslims not paying interest, in a historical context Christians were forbidden to lend money for "usury" by the Church. The Merchant of Venice has the Jewish moneylender as the villain because many people during that period resented the fact that they were forced to seek capital from the Jewish bankers of the day and repay both the principal and the interest. The Church frowned upon paying interest.

 

[eldoguy]

In order to get a marrage licence a blood test was required in the US? Probably not now?

 

[Jade4u]

Yes, the church frown upon it so can the Christians all get interest free living arrangements now too???

 

[ultraviolet]

This is very interesting and leads to another question. What we are seeing really is the changing face of Canada.

Before I start, I should mention I am an immigrant and a visible minority (lest someone start accusing me of being part of Heritage Front or something)...

Every year about 200-250K immigrants come to Canada, most of them go to the 3 big cities (Toronto, Vancouver, Montreal). Right now 20% of the Canadian population are immigrants, and in the GTA, 25% of the population are immigrants.

Native born Canadian birth rates are much lower than the birth rates of immigrants.

All this together in a longer term demographic trend suggests that going forward, the "face" of Canada is going to look quite different, not just physical/genetic makeup, but cultural.

I read somewhere that Turkey (which is the most heavily Muslim populated country in the world) was once the most heavily populated Christian country in the world. Long term demographics similar to what is happening here in Canada (and has been well underway in places like France and parts of Western Europe).

Keep in mind I'm not targeting Muslims, as here in Canada most immigrants that come into this country aren't Muslim. We have large amounts of people from China, India, Pakistan, Philippines, Jamaica come in so we have quite the mix.

That being said, when I came to Canada, because I was a minority by far, I had to adapt to mainstream Canadian society. I was one drop of red dye in Lake Ontario, so I had little effect. But in a situation now when you're pouring a teaspoon a year of red dye into a bucket, the water starts changing color (so to speak), and I find that these days, immigrants expect Canada to adapt to them.

I'm finding more and more that my values and philosophies (which are more akin to traditional mainstream Canadian) are no longer being represented in the societal fabric, and at some point, a tipping point will be reached where I could find myself looking elsewhere to go.

Keep in mind we are talking in the multiple decades timeframe here, but I think this is a situation where it's exponential, meaning that when it does happen, it will happen very fast, so I will be keeping an eye on things.

But I'd be curious to know how others think/feel about the changing societal fabric of Canada.

 

[Jade4u]

Let's see halal pizza/chicken popping up all over the place, no old traditional christmas concerts in schools yet they do teach children of other cultures to stop discrimination but some do not wish to learn of others cultures or participate, be careful what logos look like or be accused of racial discrimination for an innocent logo.

Things put in place to keep kids safe in school like no weapons or what could possibly be used as a weapon some wish their children to be able to wear to school, or other school laws for gym that there cannot be loose flying hair or long loose clothing is now not acceptable but now they still wish to participate making it risky and possibly law suits if someone get injured.

Pictures of a dog that is a firemans best friend and handed out to public businesses as promotion is considered disrespectful.

I have no problem with the native americans having their own court of law, they are not expecting us to change our way of life. but in so many ways it seems that we are expected to re-write the laws for certain members of our society and change our school systems as not to appear to discriminate against them, yet at the same time is it not true that it is the rest of society that is being discriminated against?

Now, we also have interest free housing but the question is do they put money in the bank and collect interest on their dollars. How can they live in this society without having a bank account. Are they now going to be exempt from filing their income taxes every year?

The way I look at it is this. If I were to go to a native reserve as a guest and trust me I had many native friends in high school and grew up right beside them in the country I am welcomed with open arms as I would be till today if I were to go back. I was not expected to change, what they requested did not harm others ways of lives but only improved on their way of living. Two people that could truly live side by side as I am sure it was in older days when friendships were founded.


For a society that is supposed to tolerate others differences however it appears that some cultures/religions do not want to play the same game of being tolerant and ask for more than others. I really believe if you give someone an inch they generally will take a mile.

Now if you go to anyone elses land would they treat you with the same courtesy or expect you to bend to their ways? Now I do also agree with the old saying of when in Rome do what the Romans do. It is only courtesy to fit in while staying in a particular area and a respectful thing to do. But, what I see here is basically a double standard of when in my country do as we do and when we are elsewhere we want it our way.

JMHO Like it or not it is my opinion as I sit back watching all the changes of today and all the requests and accusations of discrimination on the part of other members of society to get what they wish. Yet, I do see changes being made constantly when ever I walk outside, businesses catering now to specific members of society more so than others etc....

I also do wonder about legal issues suppose someone of this religion did commit a crime wave to society and they are totally covered hands and all as so many do or if someone decided to commit a crime dressed as they do how do you catch said person using todays advances, cameras, finger prints etc... when there is no evidence except for a camera capture as they do not allow face shots on any identification ie.. health cards etc...???

 

[Jade4u]

All you have to do is say i bear witness there is no god but god and that mohammad is the messenger of god in arabic.

 

[The LoLRus]

And so the gradual take-over continues

 

[rama putri]

Hypocrisy in Islam is not vacant that's for sure. The very Muslims preaching usury are investing heavily in interest bearing financial instruments. Meanwhile naive leftist apologists defend them unconditionally. TERB on a typical day. Somehow Bush will be brought up as the reason for "my ignorant zionist post".

I wouldn't have any issue with this if the whole thing were financed by a bank like this one: http://www.islamic-bank.com/ but it's not. I'd like to see the Sharia Compliance Cert on this. None?

Let's go back to idolizing MJ instead, shall we?

 

[scouser1]

I read somewhere that Turkey (which is the most heavily Muslim populated country in the world) was once the most heavily populated Christian country in the world. Long term demographics similar to what is happening here in Canada (and has been well underway in places like France and parts of Western Europe).

your analogy shows a complete lack of knowledge about Turkey, Turkey is not the biggest Muslim country in the world, that would be Indonesia, with a population of around 220 million. Second when ever was Turkey a majority Christian nation?? they had a substantial Christian population before World War 1 during the Ottoman Empire of Greeks, Armenians, Georgians but the war and population exchanges changed that drastically.

 

[Cinema Face]

The case against Sharia financing:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aA9LWfOjjEA

 

[ultraviolet]

your analogy shows a complete lack of knowledge about Turkey, Turkey is not the biggest Muslim country in the world, that would be Indonesia, with a population of around 220 million. Second when ever was Turkey a majority Christian nation?? they had a substantial Christian population before World War 1 during the Ottoman Empire of Greeks, Armenians, Georgians but the war and population exchanges changed that drastically.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Turkey

 

[basketcase]

I would be willing to bet that the cost they are paying for this coop is the same as if they were paying interest and the lender is still making the same money. All that is different is that it is not being called interest.

 

[scouser1]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_Turkey

thats your response Wikipedia!!!! and how far back in history do you want to go? using that logic this country didnt have any Christians and now its majority Christians, ohhh lets get rid of them