Imam praises Fort Hood shooter

[69Shooter]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33777070/ns/us_news-tragedy_at_fort_hood

I assume that the majority of Muslims are peace loving persons but; they should round this imam up, along with any of his followers, and ship them the hell back to the Middle East

 

[landscaper]

I believe he is native born american , you really don't have to be from over there to be a idiological moron.

 

[Aardvark154]

I believe he is native born american , you really don't have to be from over there to be a idiological moron.

True.

And yes both of these *&^% were born in the U.S.

This is both troubling and puzzling since it is a truism that there is no one who is more a citizen of their country than a first generation native born citizen.

 

[danmand]

And yes both of these *&^% were born in the U.S.

In a more reflective moment, don't you think the solution to the cultural
wars going on is to show less hate rather than more? A tooth for a tooth
will result in everybody being annihilated.

 

[Aardvark154]

In a more reflective moment, don't you think the solution to the cultural
wars going on is to show less hate rather than more? A tooth for a tooth
will result in everybody being annihilated.

That Danmand I believe goes to the additional paragraph I was adding above when you posted your reply.

 

[Hurricane Hank]

I thought Imam was David Bowie's ex-wife. Maybe that was Iman.

 

[69Shooter]

In a more reflective moment, don't you think the solution to the cultural
wars going on is to show less hate rather than more? A tooth for a tooth
will result in everybody being annihilated.

The problem is that radical Islam's solution is the complete destruction of the westernized world. I do not get the sense that there is any room for compromise!

 

[Yoga Face]

The problem is that radical Islam's solution is the complete destruction of the westernized world. I do not get the sense that there is any room for compromise!

I believe they only want American troops out of the middle east and particularly Saudi Arabia IE the holy land and stop supporting Israel so the Palestinians can have their land back

They are quite happy to live in a diverse world if left alone

 

[onthebottom]

In a more reflective moment, don't you think the solution to the cultural
wars going on is to show less hate rather than more? A tooth for a tooth
will result in everybody being annihilated.

I'm not sure he's a canidate to hug-one-out with..... more a case of a good use of guided munitions.

OTB

 

[landscaper]

I believe they only want American troops out of the middle east and particularly Saudi Arabia IE the holy land and stop supporting Israel so the Palestinians can have their land back

They are quite happy to live in a diverse world if left alone

I truly hope you never have to experience just how far a radical religion will go to convert the ungodly.

Radical ISlam does not acknoledge the existance of other religions in spite of the teachings of Mohamed , the are on a mission from GOD and the mission is to convert the heathen. If that sounds familier it is the same chapter and verse that the christian church used during the crusades.

Most of the radical Imams are not Afghani or Iraqui there passports would show Saudi birthplaces so the argument that they want to free their homelands is specious.

The "moderate " Islamic people are actually in favour of living by the tenents of ISlam as taught by the Koran. Those are the folks that we need to nurture and help, the radicals need to go to hell and share space with all the other radicals of all the religions

 

[Quest4Less]

I believe they only want American troops out of the middle east and particularly Saudi Arabia IE the holy land and stop supporting Israel so the Palestinians can have their land back

They are quite happy to live in a diverse world if left alone

Actually you are wrong - they desire the total eradication of ANYONE who is not muslim. Even some muslims are to be killed - if they are not 'muslim enough' according to the wing nuts.

 

[Yoga Face]

Actually you are wrong - they desire the total eradication of ANYONE who is not muslim. Even some muslims are to be killed - if they are not 'muslim enough' according to the wing nuts.

Well first I do not support their cause as they are against freedom and democracy

BUT

they only want to suppress their own people not us

In a video I saw Bin Laden state two demands

American troops out of the middle east especially the Holy Land which is all of Saudia Arabia

America stop supporting Israel


I really think there is more than one branch of radical Islam and most radicals, included Wahibist which is the sect of Bin Laden, are happy to live in a diverse world if left to oppress their own

America can not do this as they want to support the regions only democracy in Israel and because of their absolute need to control the flow of the world oil supply

 

[tboy]

I believe they only want American troops out of the middle east and particularly Saudi Arabia IE the holy land and stop supporting Israel so the Palestinians can have their land back

They are quite happy to live in a diverse world if left alone

No, you are completely wrong on that one. The radical muslim believes it is his (or her) god (allah) commanded duty to eradicate the infidels (none muslims) and is commanded to do everything within their power (including suicide) to do so and to not do anything is blasphemy (for lack of a better word).

The reason the US is "over there" is to prevent any more attacks here. The US was drawn into the fight via a well staged plan by the radicals and Bush fell head first into their plan.

I mean, it was a long drawn out foreign policy by the US to get to this stage but none-the-less, this is where we are now.

The only way a "less hate" method of peace would work is to get ALL muslims on our side before the radicals get their mitts on them. But that will never happen as even if the radicals cause a mass evacuation, the US or allies will be blamed.

As much as I hate to say it, the ONLY way to eradicate the radical threat is to eradicate them, period.

 

[maxwellsmart]

I agree with those who have dissented with YogaFace. Radical Islam wants to convert the world...meaning non-muslims and moderate muslims. There is no place for ANY radicals of ANY religion.

Furthermore, I am deeply troubled by the moderate muslims. Where is their voice? Why don't I read articles in the paper, see reports on TV and on the internet where the moderates condemn the radicals for their non-muslim, destructive, hateful acts. If the moderate muslims don't stand up soon, they deserve to be lumped in with the radicals and treated the same. They must denounce their radical brothers to warrant the assumptions we make about the moderates (ie. they are peace-loving, freedom loving people that the world can get along with.)

 

[landscaper]

the moderate muslim population is trying to get the message out the problem is ending up dead while speaking. Its easy to talk about doing something but when the next dead bnody is a family member the moral question gets a little more difficult

 

[new36jack]

I agree with those who have dissented with YogaFace. Radical Islam wants to convert the world...meaning non-muslims and moderate muslims. There is no place for ANY radicals of ANY religion.

Furthermore, I am deeply troubled by the moderate muslims. Where is their voice? Why don't I read articles in the paper, see reports on TV and on the internet where the moderates condemn the radicals for their non-muslim, destructive, hateful acts. If the moderate muslims don't stand up soon, they deserve to be lumped in with the radicals and treated the same. They must denounce their radical brothers to warrant the assumptions we make about the moderates (ie. they are peace-loving, freedom loving people that the world can get along with.)

Actually, there are people out there preaching the moderate side of Islam....unfortunately it's not on the news because of some of the radicals.

there are conferences held 3 - 4 times a year to educate people.....the turn out is massive! and it's to get the right message across.

 

[Brill]

I thought Imam was David Bowie's ex-wife. Maybe that was Iman.

They are still married.

 

[hardy2003]

oh geez! here we go again blaming Israel for Islamic radicalism. Yup! Pakistan is at civil war and Muslims are exterminating Blacks in Sudan because of those pesky Zionists! Let's make the Jews leave Israel. While we're at it let's force the Gringos out of Texas and California. YogaFace, try some logical thinking or is that too Western for you?

 

[wet_suit_one]

No, you are completely wrong on that one. The radical muslim believes it is his (or her) god (allah) commanded duty to eradicate the infidels (none muslims) and is commanded to do everything within their power (including suicide) to do so and to not do anything is blasphemy (for lack of a better word).

The reason the US is "over there" is to prevent any more attacks here. The US was drawn into the fight via a well staged plan by the radicals and Bush fell head first into their plan.

I mean, it was a long drawn out foreign policy by the US to get to this stage but none-the-less, this is where we are now.

The only way a "less hate" method of peace would work is to get ALL muslims on our side before the radicals get their mitts on them. But that will never happen as even if the radicals cause a mass evacuation, the US or allies will be blamed.

As much as I hate to say it, the ONLY way to eradicate the radical threat is to eradicate them, period.

Tell me, how does one eradicate an idea? We haven't really succeeded with Nazism (yes, they really are still around), so why would we succeed even better here? Is violence (i.e. eradication really the way)?

I'm sincerely interested in your answer because this is a real problem (eradicating an idea), how do we do it? We know it's been done with varying degrees of success (e.g. notwithstanding the fact that Nazis still exist, Nazism isn't much of force in world affairs), so how do we do it with radical islam or islamism or whatever you want to call the ideas of Osama and his bunch common thinkers? Your thoughts?

 

[Aardvark154]

Actually, there are people out there preaching the moderate side of Islam....unfortunately it's not on the news because of some of the radicals.

there are conferences held 3 - 4 times a year to educate people.....the turn out is massive! and it's to get the right message across.

The problem is that their voices do not seem to be being heard in large segments of the Islamic world.

Then again, although I truly do not believe so, it may be like the typical TERB view of Christianity in which everyone is a fundamentalist Southern Baptist