I'm tired of paying for it and I'm not getting the satisfaction I need! Where is a good place to pick up women. Early evenings, late afternoons, during the day time........................
How would most women respond to being offered DATY?
Not well.
I love sex, it's what drew me to this business in the first place. But, there is a time and a place for it. In my entire life, there is literally one time where a stranger picked me up and I said yes (I blame the Florida sunshine and many margaritas for that, lol).
The easiest way I can put it is this: If a client comes to me, Cleo, for sex, it's because I firstly put it out there - I advertise it, I sell it, I give my phone number and email so you can contact me for it. So, a client contacting me and offering me DATY - fuck YEAH, I'm in! Now... if I'm out at a bar/restaurant/pub, I'm no longer Cleo Catra. I'm not there advertising sex, or asking for sex. So if a man walked up and offered me DATY... honestly? I'd probably laugh, and go back to what I was doing before.
This happened to me a few months ago and that is when I realized something...I was paying for sex and, often, jerking off would have been just as satisfying. So, I started working on the connection...sensuality became my motivator. Through pm, emails and texts, I started chatting with ladies I was interested in visiting. From here, could learn each other's likes, dislikes and comfort zones upon meeting, a small connection is already in place and the physical part felt more genuine instead of mechanical and business like. This has heightened my enjoyment and kept me in the game. Don't get me wrong, there are days when I want to just fuck someone without giving a shit about anything except getting laid and, that is just a hh appointment but, I do remain picky...dfk, bbbj and daty must be on the list or it is a no-go for me. When I want the "connection" and sensual intimacy, that's when I up the ante and go 1 hour or more. It becomes the "experience", not the "fuck".I'm tired of paying for it and I'm not getting the satisfaction I need! Where is a good place to pick up women. Early evenings, late afternoons, during the day time........................
How would most women respond to being offered DATY?
Very well said Curiousm7...I feel the exact same way (so no...not nonsense or rambly at all!). I always look for a human connection of some kind also, exchange some emails, maybe a few texts, read posts and see how the SP comes across before any actual meeting. I too find that it elevates the excitement and more akin to meeting a girl at a bar, picking her up and taking her back to your/her place for a shag. For me, I try to only have experiences like that and they are usually far more memorable and lasting. That is my main issue with agencies...since the girls are not really "present" on boards, you cannot email them, etc. The only notable exception was Emily when she was with PK, she came on the board and was easy to connect with...that was the only time I saw an agency girl, because it was the only time I could setup some kind of pre-meeting connection of any kind. I realize that could be why girls choose agencies in many cases...since they don't want to bother emailing, chatting, connecting, sharing with clients before an actual meeting is setup (and no...I am no expert on the psychology of choosing an agency vs. being an indy...this was pure speculation on my part). The PK chat room helps a little, but 99% of the time that I go in there is no one there but a few guys.This happened to me a few months ago and that is when I realized something...I was paying for sex and, often, jerking off would have been just as satisfying. So, I started working on the connection...sensuality became my motivator. Through pm, emails and texts, I started chatting with ladies I was interested in visiting. From here, could learn each other's likes, dislikes and comfort zones upon meeting, a small connection is already in place and the physical part felt more genuine instead of mechanical and business like. This has heightened my enjoyment and kept me in the game. Don't get me wrong, there are days when I want to just fuck someone without giving a shit about anything except getting laid and, that is just a hh appointment but, I do remain picky...dfk, bbbj and daty must be on the list or it is a no-go for me. When I want the "connection" and sensual intimacy, that's when I up the ante and go 1 hour or more. It becomes the "experience", not the "fuck".
I may sound rambling and non-sensical but, try sensual and passionate intimacy just once...then you will know what I mean.
Now, for pse...that is different altogether. Some days horny takes over completely and I want a full on pse where I run the show and she does everything I want...and, yup, I got my lady for that too...
I'm gonna wager most of you seeking the emotional level are single? I agree chemistry is great.. But anything more should be sought out from a gf or something similar.. If not you're only cheating yourself.
I get that some guys can't put in the work to get an attractive sp like gf. But it is possible. For everyone.
No I get what you mean, I guess I'm just thinking of it as chemistry, vs a emotional connection. Which comes with a bunch of bs baggage in itself. I agree, having rapport and a sense of comfort with a SP is great. I can only think of having that a handful of times. Never was one to repeat much, as most experiences are sub expectations..For me no...not single. If I was I probably would not be seeing SP's but rather dating or hooking up (or attempting to anyway). I hear what you are saying T2S, but I don't see SP's as some sort replacement for a SO, more like a bar pick up (one that will always say yes) or booty call (for a repeat), but without any of the relationship hassle, baggage or BS. There is even BS and baggage for a bar pick up most times, same with a booty call. I agree completely with Curiousm7, in the absence of any human connection the date is usually very mechanical for me, which I get nothing out of whatsoever (may as well stay home and jerk off).
For me, it is all about enjoying the pleasure without any of the drama, and I guess I need more than a purely physical connection in order to experience the pleasure...again...it could be just me...
Nope not single...entered this hobby searching out porn stars and had a fucking amazing time. I have learned, however, that I crave sensuality and passion.. if this naturally morphs into porn star experiences...perfect. If not, I still leave a happier man.I'm gonna wager most of you seeking the emotional level are single? I agree chemistry is great.. But anything more should be sought out from a gf or something similar.. If not you're only cheating yourself.
I get that some guys can't put in the work to get an attractive sp like gf. But it is possible. For everyone.
With some, a little more than "regular client" is possible but, for the most part, we are just that..."clients". Think from the sp point of view. This line of work must, at some point, play havoc on emotions...and, I think, ensuring the relationship stays client/provider must, in some way, protect those emotions.I understand what purpleshaft is saying. I was seeing a few SPs but there is one in particular who goes out of her way to make me feel like a VIP. I should say "went out of her way" because in my last email exchange with her, I felt like a regular client again. Also, my favorites are all suddenly raising their prices. Suddenly the hole in my life that this hobby fills seems bigger than ever.
That's what I feel too, ie. that I very much crave sensuality and passion - the chemistry, the connection and the gfe. That's the reason I tend to stay with my regulars once I have experienced these feelings with them. Every once in a while, I will venture out and try someone new in the hope of finding another repeat.Nope not single...entered this hobby searching out porn stars and had a fucking amazing time. I have learned, however, that I crave sensuality and passion.. if this naturally morphs into porn star experiences...perfect. If not, I still leave a happier man.
Personal Life, is not part of the Professional Life... and you have to understand that...Many have bfs already. They just don't tell clients or Loe because most lose interest. It's the interest that drives them business so they're not stupid. It's a mess really.
I don't see it as that black and white, but I of course respect your opinion on the subject. Yes, of course in the end it remains primarily a business transaction for both parties, but that does not make it devoid of any humanity. Let me use an example (and no...I am not comparing this industry to another...just using the example to make a point), I always buy my gas from the same service station, near where I live. It is a small mom and pop operation, they have no pay at the pump and not a great pump layout...but I go there because I like the owner, and his wife/family...and I think he likes me. We chat a bit about stuff and I like the 30-60 seconds that we spend together every time I get gas. Sure our relationship is predicated on a business transaction and would not exist if either 1) I did not have a car or 2) he did not own a service station. My point is that, for me, a human element or connection (or emotion...whatever you want to call it) can enhance a business transaction...which was my initial point.People.... don't kid yourselves. We are paying for business transactions. If the experience went well then repeat(s) else move on to the next one.
Think of it as a short term fantasy that you are paying for. Nothing more.
Sometimes we met the ladies that we clicked but at the end of the day, it is still a business transaction. All providers want repeated respectable clients which will make the work easier... and for us to repeat because we like their looks, services and of course the chance of not being rip-off by new providers.
