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pablice said:
This does not make sense.

Why would I get the flu shot if the last time I had the flu was way back in my teens. I don't need it, simple as day, why would you or I inject poision in our system if we do not need it???

I acknowledge that some people may need it and it may help them. I also know that there are people out there that do not need it, and it is quite silly to take something when there is no need. For the people who do not need it it may interfere with how their immune system functions. Again, I say why fix it if it is not broken???
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Because you might not be as at the same level of exposure risk as others, and so do not catch them as often. They are rare to start with for me, but have a big impact.

I've had flu twice in my life, both after I moved to the city and used the subway regularly. It doesn't happen often to me. Otherwise I've had colds here and there. The flu shot will do nothing for colds.

I've had the flu shot off and on for the past few years, but I see it as insurance. If you had the two flu's I had, you wouldn't want another one again either. I have a very robust immune system, I'm one of the farm kids you refer to. That doesn't help at all if I get exposed to a new flu and catch it. The vaccine does help though, for the strains they include. It's basic logic.

Whatever works for you, just don't try to make claims about what vaccines do to immune systems without some science. Your point above, that it is poison being injected unnecessarily, is ignorant.
 
I am actually at a high exposure. Wife is a nurse and brings home all sorts of shit and bugs. Like I said she gets the flu about 1ce per year and I still sleep in the same bed when she has it.

Trust me I get this talk from her about the flu shot all the time so I know all the arguments and points there is to know and do not feel in the mood to discuss them because this topic is endless and exhausting. She also gets the flu shot every year.

Once Canada makes it mandatory I will give the argument to you guys but until then it is still voluntary meaning that there is no concrete justification to make it mandatory.

I have never claimed I was a medical expert. I hate hospitals, I hate going to them and anything that has to do with hospitals.

My views are strictly my opinion based on my own experience and do not apply to the majority. I still say I feel like it is posion being injected into my system and I should have the right to express my opinion without being disrespected or backing this up.

I am not a burden to the hospitals or the healthcare system and I am proud of this. I am also proud that Canada has a good health care system, not the best, but still pretty good for people that need it.

If you feel that it helps you more power to you. If you feel it boosts your imunity system more power to you. I feel like it does the oposite. Sometimes I feel crabby or sad or horney or crazy or whatever. They are still my feelings. I am in no medical position or no position of authority and should have the right to my opinions. My opinion still stands that the flu shot is not necessary for people who do not get the flu often. These people have a strong immune system and will most likely be able to fight off the strains in the flu shot as it is.

You have your opinion and if you feel it is ignorant for me to say this, I have no objections to your opinion. You are not being disrespectful or calling names which is fine.

Like I said why fix something if it don't need fixing. I know it sounds arrogant but this is my truth and nobody can take this for me becuase it works for me. You have not convinced me why somebody who does not get the flu needs the flu shot. I have not convinced anybody that the flu shot weakens the immune system nor do I care to convince them. My intuition tells me it does so regardless of how ignorant this sounds or laks any backing, I don't really care, it is enough just to convince me. This is all that matters. Make it mandatory and I will take it. If you feel so strongly about it put yourself in a position of authority to make it manadoatry and make the change vs. trying to beat my opinion out of me and force your own truth down my throat. You are just waisitng your time trying to convince me when you could use your energy to make it mandatory, I don't really care to debate my opinion with anybody on this topic. It is so insignificant to me.

I just hope stinkynuts is ok!!!

benstt said:
Because you might not be as at the same level of exposure risk as others, and so do not catch them as often. They are rare to start with for me, but have a big impact.

I've had flu twice in my life, both after I moved to the city and used the subway regularly. It doesn't happen often to me. Otherwise I've had colds here and there. The flu shot will do nothing for colds.

I've had the flu shot off and on for the past few years, but I see it as insurance. If you had the two flu's I had, you wouldn't want another one again either. I have a very robust immune system, I'm one of the farm kids you refer to. That doesn't help at all if I get exposed to a new flu and catch it. The vaccine does help though, for the strains they include. It's basic logic.

Whatever works for you, just don't try to make claims about what vaccines do to immune systems without some science. Your point above, that it is poison being injected unnecessarily, is ignorant.
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pablice said:
How do you know it is not weakening your system? How do you know that you would or would not be stronger if you did not take it. It's like anything else, your body learns to fight it the natural way and in the process gets stronger. You nor me or anybody else on terb is in a credible enough position to dispute this.

The same reasoning applies that kids born in a farm have less risk of developing allergies then kids born in 'relatively' clean environment.

It works for me and many many other people who do not take it. Why fix something that is not broken?
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Seriously, stop spreading these lies. You don't have a clue what you are talking about and your malicious misinformation puts people at risk.

You do not get the flu often enough to learn to fight it the natural way, and an episode of the flu can leave you with serious complications. It can fuck with your DNA. It can damage your internal organs. It can cause secondary infections. It is not something you want to get and it won't make you stronger than developing unibody through a vaccine, which has none of those complications.

In addition, you allow yourself to serve as a vector to get flu to people who are less able to fight it. The elderly and the young around you can catch it from you, because you didn't vaccinate. You may experience it as a mild cold, but it can kill them. As they are most likely to be children and elderly you care about, your own family, you are putting at risk your own loved ones.
 
Stop trolling please.

I am not preaching to anybody. Whatever I have been doing works for me. Stinkynuts and others are smart enough to make an informed decision themselves. They are not childern that anything posted will influence them. Please show some respect for people and that they are capable of making an informed decision. Please don't disrespect people and assume they are not capable of making their own decision.

in the eyes of some posters I may be ignorant to this topic. However these are the same posters that get the flu and I don't since 20 years ago. Hmmm go figure, maybe my ignorance is not so ignorat after all. If i got the flu often maybe i would consider it to see if it helps.

Show some respect please.

fuji said:
Seriously, stop spreading these lies. You don't have a clue what you are talking about and your malicious misinformation puts people at risk.
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I'm not going to show any respect for lies that getting the flu makes you stronger when in fact it can seriously and permanently damage you, or lies that vaccines weaken you.

I have never gotten a flu either, I never really get sick, but that doesn't require me to abandon scientific data and think my own example is proof of anything!

If you want respect you have to earn it.
 
fuji said:
I'm not going to show any respect to someone who goes about spreading dangerous lies, lies that getting the flu makes you stronger when in fact it can seriously and permanently damage you, or lies that vaccines weaken you.

If you want respect you have to earn it.
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It is called common respect for others. That is when you have respect for him as a human being even if you don't respect his opinion. Some adults are capable of both.
 
I reconsider my statement and I don't want respect for somebody like you who assumes people are childern and can't make their own decision. Show some respect to the community. You are not deserving of this at all and I honestly have lost all respect for you and do not really care what you say anymore. Making accusations such as lies or malicious attempts says a lot about you. I agree what others have said that your main purpose is to troll.

Please tell me when have you contributed a review of any kind to contribute and help other hobbyists in this community. All I see from you is arrogance and troll tendencies.

Why are you on here? Do you even have a life? 57k+ drivel posts...says a lot about you.
 
To the flu experts who can present their points to the community respectfully.

If the flu vaccine is so necessary and getting the flu is so dangerous to your own health and to other peoples health why is it not mandatory? Simple question, please answer this.

If it becomes mandatory I will take it simple as day
I leave this decision to our experts and not self proclaimed experts who "think" they know everything.
 
Sorry to hear it Stinky. My neighbor and his wife have been sick since well before Christmas and can't shake it. I called this morning to wish them a Happy New Year and they are still sick as ever, two weeks now. They went to the local clinic and x-rays showed fluid on the lungs but not quit pneumonia. The Doc did say though that if they have trouble breathing, go straight to the Hospital.
A little concoction of mine is Stinging Nettle tea ( a natural anti-biotic) hot, a spoonful of honey, lemon and a double shot of brandy. The Tea is available in health food stores.
Cover yourself well and sleep it off. You'll sweat like a fat whore in confessional but you should also feel better.
Not intended as advice but I no longer get the flu shot.
About 6+- years ago one of the side effects was pain in the major joints. Hips, shoulders etc. I suffered about 3 months with that. Since then I haven't gone for it and can't say that I've been sick less or more. I usually get something once or twice a winter and that's what I'm getting now. The cure was worse than the flu.
 
Taking 1 gram of Vitamin C every hour also helps a lot
 
Dejavu...looks like we had this discussion before.http://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread...The-Flu-Shot-This-Year&highlight=pablice+sick

Can't beleive I am almost saying the same thing. Couple things changed since this time. I have faith now in some medicine such as Tylenol when needed and would take the flu shot if it was mandatory.

I still beleive that the best way to have a strong immune system is to take care of your body with proper nutrition, exercise and try to be health spiritually.Mind, body and spirit.
 
pablice said:
I still beleive that the best way to have a strong immune system is to take care of your body with proper nutrition, exercise and try to be health spiritually.Mind, body and spirit.
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This certainly true, but unrelated to whether or not you should get a flu shot. Even those who are strong and healthy serve as carriers for the flu which leads to a higher death rate among small children, the elderly, and those with existing health problems. Moreover some flu strains do kill strong, healthy people who generally never get sick.

Certainly you need good food and exercise to be a healthy person. You also need to take the flu shot, to protect others as well as yourself.
 
fuji said:
This certainly true, but unrelated to whether or not you should get a flu shot. Even those who are strong and healthy serve as carriers for the flu which leads to a higher death rate among small children, the elderly, and those with existing health problems. Moreover some flu strains do kill strong, healthy people who generally never get sick.

Certainly you need good food and exercise to be a healthy person. You also need to take the flu shot, to protect others as well as yourself.
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stop trying to force your moral views on everyone. I haven't been sick in over 20 years and hell will have to freeze over before I take a flu shot, period.
 
stinkynuts said:
Last couple days I seriously thought I might die. Living by myself with no one to look after me sucks. I have been sleeping nonstop almost for two days and the symptoms: chills, fever, headache, coughing sneezing, and stuffy nose are literally killing me. Tell me that the worst is over!

I notice that before these nasty symptoms occur, I feel very fatigued and weak. Then two or three days of really bad symptoms where I can't even get out of bed, and then a slow recovery. I feel about 20% right now, up from about 5%.

Anyone else have the flu? Is it just me or are the sypmtoms getting worse every year?
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Last year was a terrible year for me (2013-early 14). I haven't caught the flu or cold the last 8 months because I carry hand sanitzer with me everywhere. Now that it is cold I use my gloves to open doors etc..do alot with my gloves lol

Dont share drinks with anyone unless you know they aren't sick with something. Better yet don't share drinks with anyone. I guess wife/GF is okay if you are engaged with someone lol.

If you forget once to wash or sanitize your hands that could be all you need to get sick. Rubbing your eye or nose, grabbing a quick bite using your hand are the bad habits. I got tired of being sick so frequently last year so I decided to do something about it lol.

Hope you feel better soon.
 
stinkynuts said:
Last couple days I seriously thought I might die. Living by myself with no one to look after me sucks. I have been sleeping nonstop almost for two days and the symptoms: chills, fever, headache, coughing sneezing, and stuffy nose are literally killing me. Tell me that the worst is over!

I notice that before these nasty symptoms occur, I feel very fatigued and weak. Then two or three days of really bad symptoms where I can't even get out of bed, and then a slow recovery. I feel about 20% right now, up from about 5%.

Anyone else have the flu? Is it just me or are the sypmtoms getting worse every year?
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That's why you should invest in a Philipino nanny like me!!!!!!!!!!! :)

Hope you feel better.
 
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