I am not retiring

[Big Daddy]

I am writing this because I have decided not to leave this hobby. Since I decided to retire, I realized that it is difficult to find someone special. And why should I give up this hobby till I find this special person. SPs do a pretty good job of offering what men really want, which is direct to the point conversion and the deeds without games. I have been chasing non-SPs which were not that attractive (when compared to many SPs), but gave me a lot of hard time.

I am sick of playing games, and women who want to manipulate. So, here I am back to be the hobbist. My major concern of leaving this hobby was safety, which still remains a concern. So, which SP should I being with now?

BTW, I would like to thank you all for supporting my earlier retirement decision. I just wanted to keep you all informed about my come back.

 

[drlove]

Now... If only we could convince Kathleen!

 

[Big Daddy]

I can only wish

Thanks Dr. Love. I tell you, sometimes I feel that I am lucky to be single. I can get in and out of this hobby anytime I wish. No need to hide or keep it secret from anyone. I love the freedom to do things as I wish.

 

[Garrett]

You better return the retirement gift we got ya!

Having said that... I think I am somewhat saddened by the reasons for your return. Hope it works out for you...

 

[Big Daddy]

It is sad, but that is my life...

Garrett,

I am not happy to return either, but I think I keep running into wrong women. May be all the right ones are SPs

 

[Big Daddy]

Lickman,
A man, who has engagged in this hobby, has low tolerance for time it takes to make relationships work. This hobby is always behind your mind. If a woman starts playing games then you wonder what's so special about her? There are better looking SPs you can have who are just a phone call and trip to Toronto away

 

[Thunderballs]

6 days, 23 hours of retirement? Maybe the problem was going cold turkey. Did you merely have a bad weekend? Dating really sucks. If I had to endure some of the dates again that I have been on in the past I would literally leave half of them at the restaurant, toss some money on the table and say, "I'm outta here. Call me when you lose the attitude sweetie". There is no way I'd put up with even half the games played. Good looking women have guys by the balls and they know it. I've dated some model types and they just are not worth the investment. Give me the girl next door who knows how to pump her own gas any day!

If there is one thing I've learned, it's to keep dates cheap. Forget the 5 star restaurant and roses. Coffee, lunch, art gallery, a drink, keep the investment of time and money low while testing the waters. Once you know that you can tolerate the girl for more than 30 minutes, then bring out the big guns.

You may want to get a copy of the "Worst case scenario guide to dating" which has some good tips (how to bale on a date, etc). If anything it's good for a laugh.

Good luck BD.

 

[Big Daddy]

And then they make you jealous

TB,

I don't want to make this thread for bashing women, but if you don't play thier games then they go after your friend and make you jealous. It is a vicious circle, it is better to stay out of it.

 

[drlove]

Lickman,
A man, who has engagged in this hobby, has low tolerance for time it takes to make relationships work. This hobby is always behind your mind. If a woman starts playing games then you wonder what's so special about her? There are better looking SPs you can have who are just a phone call and trip to Toronto away

So true.

 

[drlove]

Haven't really looked at it that way. Could it be that you may have a natural low tolerance level, and find hobbying a good way around that issue, rather than suggesting hobbying gives you a short fuse. Cause and effect question.

I can attest to the fact that in my civilian dating life, I don't tolerate women's antics to the extent that I once did, due to the fact that whatever happens, I always have the SP option at my disposal. Converesly, this SP fuelled attitude has actually increased my appeal to women (IMO) since they seem to value and respect a male who won't put up with any gameplaying, and basically tells it the way it is.

 

[Big Daddy]

Haven't really looked at it that way. Could it be that you may have a natural low tolerance level, and find hobbying a good way around that issue, rather than suggesting hobbying gives you a short fuse. Cause and effect question.

Yes, it may be that I have a natural low tolerance level. However, if you factor in your career, economy and other errands, no one has enough patience and time. I think women that I have dated never understood that men also have to sacrifice a lot to make a relationship work. You may have to put up with in-laws, family friends etc. which you don't have to worry about when you are single. All that sacrifice plus the attitude makes me give up.

 

[gala]

don't give up, Big Daddy

Hey, a week isn't a lot of time to go searching for that someone special. Don't give up!

You say the women you date don't understand you have to sacrifice a lot. It's true. It's lots of hard work, plus you'll have to put up with emotional shit, learn to bite your tongue, and say sorry even when it's her fault! Plus all the hard time of meeting, dropping, and getting dumped by the people you don't click with before you find the right one.

Hey, sounds like SP's maybe can help you through that. But also be careful because if you have too easy a way out, you might have trouble to find enough strength to do what you have to do!

Life sucks!

 

[Big Daddy]

Why do guys have to lie to make it work?

Gala,

What you say is perfectly valid, but why does finding enough strenght should be equal to lying? You have to put up with a lot of shit and say "I love you", you have to say "sorry" when you don't feel that way.

All of that is OK for me, but how does a guy figure out that it is not a game? You might put up with all of that and still get nowhere.

There are no easy answers, and that is why life sucks!

 

[Dorm201]

brutal honesty

How does it work? Through brutal honesty. Sometimes it sucks to hear the truth, but it's better than trying to figure out all the games.

From first hand experience. Dating is tough. But dating an SP is even tougher. If it weren't for being completely honest there isn't a hope in hell of any relationship I've been in working out.

GL Big Daddy... it does take patience and work... a lot of it.

 

[Big Daddy]

On the positive

I must say that the support I get from TERB members made my life worth living. All the problems that I face in the life seems like a walk in the park. Yes, I am learning to be patient.

Thank you all.

 

[homonger]

I can attest to the fact that in my civilian dating life, I don't tolerate women's antics to the extent that I once did, due to the fact that whatever happens, I always have the SP option at my disposal. Conversely, this SP fuelled attitude has actually increased my appeal to women (IMO) since they seem to value and respect a male who won't put up with any gameplaying, and basically tells it the way it is.

Interesting Doctor. Ever since my hobbying began in earnest a few years ago, I have lost virtually any interest in dating "civilians". I don't see the percentage in it, when I can have such a good time seeing sp's and not have to deal with the bs. But, I have often thought, since I know I can get "it" anytime with an sp, that I should be fearlessly confident with civilian women. Sounds like you've done that, doctor.