Hypocritical racism

[petitelover]

In the states and presumably in Canada most people try to be politically correct. PC for a black person in the states is an African American. (Do they call that race African Canadians in Canada?)

I was waiting for the water fountain at the gym I go to and several African Americans were talking amongst themselves. Every other word out of their mouth was "yo Nigg*r" How is it acceptable for a black, African American, to call each other Nigg*r and if a caucasian said that to them they would probably get slugged in the face and be chastised by everyone?

 

[Vancouver Femme Fatale]

You already know the short answer; same reason I can call a girlfriend 'bitch' with a smile and not get slugged. It's all context.

The bigger answer is this; life is strange. Makes it interesting; thank your gods, get used to it, and move on.

And Spike Lee is a egotistical git.

 

[petitelover]

You already know the short answer; same reason I can call a girlfriend 'bitch' with a smile and not get slugged. It's all context.

The bigger answer is this; life is strange. Makes it interesting; thank your gods, get used to it, and move on.

And Spike Lee is a egotistical git.

If I am with a group of my buds, I might call one a "dick" if he is acting like one and would not think twice about it. I don't think I would ever call a black person "nig*er" even if he was my best friend. I think there is a BIG difference.

 

[ig-88]

Yes, blacks in Canada are properly called African-Canadians or Afro-Canadians.

And yes, blacks are "allowed" to use the N-word amongst themselves.

On the flip side, I have rarely, if ever, heard a non-white person use ethnic white slurs such as "limey," "wop," "mick," etc.

That's the unwritten "rules"; they've been oppressed, let them use that term if they want.

 

[jeffham29]

I call my fellow disabled brothers, "cripples." If you're in the "club," it's ok in my books.

 

[Vancouver Femme Fatale]

Heh. In a number of jobs where everybody was from everywhere, we used to exchange the salutations "Get down, Brown", and "Alrighty, Whitey", but then again, we were all of us geeky bastards, so who knows if that counts.

These days I just call everybody "Muthafuckah" and that seems to cover it.

 

[petitelover]

You've different friends then mine dear... I'm white but my black friends are refered to in person as my n***ers. Then again they call me that too but I do tan well and have curly hair.

Wow! The connotation of a "Nig*er" seems derogatory and the use of it demeaning. Remember the incident when Tiger Woods won his first golf tournament - one of the famed golfers (I forgot his name) stated - "gee, I hope he doesn't expect fried chicken at the winners table."

"I call my fellow disabled brothers, "cripples." If you're in the "club," it's ok in my books."

I respectfully disagree. So it's ok to say "yo cripple" if you are crippled but not ok to say it if you are not? Seems hyprocritical to me.

 

[pool]

I could be wrong, but I believe it's actually a double standard, not hypocrisy.

just saying ...

 

[petitelover]

I could be wrong, but I believe it's actually a double standard, not hypocrisy.

just saying ...

'American Heritage Dictionary - Cite This Source
hy·poc·ri·sy (hĭ-pŏk'rĭ-sē) Pronunciation Key
n. pl. hy·poc·ri·sies

1. The practice of professing beliefs, feelings, or virtues that one does not hold or possess; falseness.
2. An act or instance of such falseness."

What is the difference between a "double standard" and hypocrisy?

 

[skypilot]

Double standard? Of course, but it has more to do with context and courtesy. I would never call any black person "nigger" or "nigga" (those * are so phony, talk about pc!) because of respect for their humanity. I actually find the word horrifying no matter who uses it. Other racial slurs are offensive, but few of them pack the punch that the n word does. When you think about the civil rights movement including the lynchings, beatings, bombings and outright oppression that went on until only a few decades ago it really makes the word totally unacceptable. One of my friends is an African from Togo and he gets extremely pissed and almost goes into an insane rage if an African American calls him nigga. He claims it is a cultural issue and that the nigga culture is completely immoral.

 

[FatOne]

I call my fellow disabled brothers, "cripples." If you're in the "club," it's ok in my books.

You don't mess with the crips... or the bloods for that matter.

Now that the disabled and those with hemophilia have that truce, it goes double.

 

[1HandInMyPocket]

I've heard this arguement before. One reason why they say it okay for black person to use the N-word is because they are taking that word back. However, Operah made a good point on her show about that reason. She said that it is a powerful word and should not be use by anyone, black people included. Well that was the gist of what she said, but she did made a good point.

 

[pool]

What is the difference between a "double standard" and hypocrisy?

As I interpret it ...


hypocrisy : professing the belief that nobody in any context should use the word nigger, but it is in fact untrue to oneself.

double standard : holding the belief that it's acceptable to use the word nigger in certain contexts but not others.


Maybe not quite that black & white, especially given that I just used the word, but it's important to make some distinction.

 

[the rusty tromb]

As I interpret it ...


hypocrisy : professing the belief that nobody in any context should use the word nigger, but is in fact untrue to oneself.

double standard : holding the belief that it's acceptable to use the word nigger in certain contexts but acts or thinks otherwise.


Maybe not quite that black & white, especially given that I just used the word, but it's important to make some distinction.

MSN it. More sweetness for you...

 

[Ref]

Personally I do not understand why the Black community allows the word to be used by anyone. The word itself has been associated as derogatory towards African-Americans for many years. Why it is used as a form of Urban speak is beyond me.

One would think that community leaders would rather disassociate themselves from a word (even a related form of it) that at one time, was not only a very powerful racial slur, but a word that was used in extreme hate and anger.

 

[Fabulous]

just because the big O says so, it doesn't mean it should be or will be....and some comments in here are outragous already; ALLOWS? "why the Black community allows the word to be used by anyone" I could rip some people to shreds here. Normally I don't participate in these types of threads, but tonight is special.

First off no one community or color of people can say what word to use anytime anyplace, I don't even know why I am responding to this stupid comment, as if I could say to all the white people hey don't call eachother red necks, better yet stop acting like them....as if the whole white race would suddenly have any power to ban this kind of talk.

Next, it's not your business to be offended or listening/interfering in how some people in different cultures interact with one another.

The way I see it unless you've been there and done that it's not your business to comment on it or wonder why. It only displays your own stupidity. Racism comes in all colours and cultures.

One black man calling another black man a Nigga doesn't mean anything bad and most likely is expressed as a term of endearment.

You posing as "they" what is that all about? Forget it I don't wanna know, I already crossed path with too many people of the likes of "they" "them"

 

[Meaculpa]

How is it acceptable for a black, African American, to call each other Nigg*r and if a caucasian said that to them they would probably get slugged in the face and be chastised by everyone?

For the same reasons as the following:

1) If your Son slept around, you would be proud of him; but God forbid if your daughter did.
2) Men should pay for everything on the first date.
3) You frown on men who hold hands, but it's ok for women.
4) You wouldn't dress your baby boy in pink.
5) It is wrong to sleep with a girl who is 17years and 364 days old, but it's ok to sleep
with her the next day (I guess she's automatically mature after that one day).


Point is, society creates unwritten illogical rules, and YOU contribute to them.

 

[petitelover]

For the same reasons as the following:

1) If your Son slept around, you would be proud of him; but God forbid if your daughter did.
2) Men should pay for everything on the first date.
3) You frown on men who hold hands, but it's ok for women.
4) You wouldn't dress your baby boy in pink.
5) It is wrong to sleep with a girl who is 17years and 364 days old, but it's ok to sleep
with her the next day (I guess she's automatically mature after that one day).


Point is, society creates unwritten illogical rules, and YOU contribute to them.

Interesting you say "I" contribute to illogical rules - Are you saying my post does this? Please elaborate.

 

[Back Burner]

Interesting you say "I" contribute to illogical rules - Are you saying my post does this? Please elaborate.

He means we as a society do it all the time. Just read his list again and it will make sense.

Just like this black people calling each other "nigger" which has been talk about on TERB again and again and again. I don't agree with it some do.
But I'll use the same example I used last time. Think of it as you calling your sister a whore or your gay brother a fag. But if someone else does it, you'd kick their ass.

 

[petitelover]

Next, it's not your business to be offended or listening/interfering in how some people in different cultures interact with one another.

I agree eavesdropping is not appropriate but when discussions are in a public setting, in the open and amongst many different people (men, women, Asian, Caucasian, African-American, etc) it is hard not to hear and wonder about what was said. I was not offended but wondered why anyone would glamorize the negative connotation that word implies. To me, every time anyone says that word, they demean themselves and the African American community.