Huge gaffe by NDP.

[fmahovalich]

So the trusty Toronto NDP candidate - a star in Mulcairs group, let it slip that Alberta oil is not likely to be tapped into if NDP elected. And three major pipelines would be stalled or eliminated.


What a mess for Mulcair.

Just when he thought he and the NDP could make inroads in Alberta, the locals out there hear what is in store....and no doubt, quashed any hope of NDP getting a toehold.

What a blunder for the NDP.

 

[drlove]

Typical.

 

[red]

That's not what was said.

The feds don't have power to stop it in any event

 

[GPIDEAL]

Yeah, that's nuts. Let them freeze in the dark.

Trudeau will allow it every other week.

 

[GPIDEAL]

That's not what was said.

The feds don't have power to stop it in any event

Hmmm. What really happened? Someone manipulating things here?

 

[mandrill]

That's not what was said.

The feds don't have power to stop it in any event

International and inter provincial commerce? Sure they do!

 

[fmahovalich]

Oh it was said alright.

the Libs and Conservatives have pounced on it.

Its a known fact the NDP have no love for pipelines. Mulcair tried to delicately explain.....but he dug the hole a little deeper.

Albertans are livid.

 

[nottyboi]

People need to grow up in regard to pipelines. Do we want another Lac Megantic? Just make sure that Oil Companies have the require insurance and do not cap it at a lousy 1B, it should be capped at about 25B depending on the situation, or they can pay the govt some serious % to indemnify them.

 

[Moviefan-2]

Oh it was said alright.

True enough. She said a lot of the oilsands oil may have to stay in the ground.

I was watching Power and Politics when it happened and the Conservative candidate pounced on it during the show.

I did have a sense while I was watching it that McQuaig had gone off-script.

 

[Butler1000]

It was Trudeau who said what I've been saying. Munclair is speaking out of one side of his mouth and French out the other.

There is a hidden agenda here. I've said that and that I worried about the caucus. Here is the beginnings of the proof.

 

[Frankfooter]

Linda McQauig said it.

But its not party policy, and claiming that it is is like claiming that the cons don't believe in evolution and will cancel all teaching of evolution in schools, because we've had wingnut cons say similar things.

She is correct though, there will be a time in the near future when the tar sands are going to considered too dirty to refine.

 

[Butler1000]

Linda McQauig said it.

But its not party policy, and claiming that it is is like claiming that the cons don't believe in evolution and will cancel all teaching of evolution in schools, because we've had wingnut cons say similar things.

She is correct though, there will be a time in the near future when the tar sands are going to considered too dirty to refine.

And Munclair hasn't refuted it. He also waffled in the Debate when confronted by May.

In other words he won't declare his policy on this issue. And it's a big issue.

 

[Marcus1027]

Linda McQauig said it.

But its not party policy, and claiming that it is is like claiming that the cons don't believe in evolution and will cancel all teaching of evolution in schools, because we've had wingnut cons say similar things.

She is correct though, there will be a time in the near future when the tar sands are going to considered too dirty to refine.

You people down east are daft!! CANADA ONLY ACCOUNTS FOR 2% GLOBAL GHG EMISSIONS!, it's like pissing in a swimming pool!!! Why are you all intent on taxing yourselves to death and have nothing to show for it? The U.S. Has no so-called "carbon pricing" and neither do China, India, or Russia. So please stop with the priggish arguments about climate change, because all this is, is an attempt to suck more money out of consumers wrapped in the guise of social responsibility with the hope that no one dare question the intent as Kathleen Wynne hopes. Harper was correct that carbon pricing has nothing to do with climate change and everything to do with raising revenue full stop!

 

[Butler1000]

You people down east are daft!! CANADA ONLY ACCOUNTS FOR 2% GLOBAL GHG EMISSIONS!, it's like pissing in a swimming pool!!! Why are you all intent on taxing yourselves to death and have nothing to show for it? The U.S. Has no so-called "carbon pricing" and neither do China, India, or Russia. So please stop with the priggish arguments about climate change, because all this is, is an attempt to suck more money out of consumers wrapped in the guise of social responsibility with the hope that no one dare question the intent as Kathleen Wynne hopes. Harper was correct that carbon pricing has nothing to do with climate change and everything to do with raising revenue full stop!

Um. We're not all daft. In fact it was Ontario that gave Harper his Majority. It's not just an east west thing. Many are in agreement with you, but let's not insult allies shall we?

Remember you Westerners just put in an NDP govt......

 

[fmahovalich]

Mulcair delicately tried to explain her comments.... And basically says pipelines will go in ONLY when environmental thresholds have been met. The problem is... The NDP thresholds are so daunting...the oil will stay in the ground.

ALberta will not sit well with this...nor do I.

 

[Marcus1027]

Um. We're not all daft. In fact it was Ontario that gave Harper his Majority. It's not just an east west thing. Many are in agreement with you, but let's not insult allies shall we?

Remember you Westerners just put in an NDP govt......

I should have worded that better and said Toronto Liberals, my apologies

 

[saxon]

You people down east are daft!! CANADA ONLY ACCOUNTS FOR 2% GLOBAL GHG EMISSIONS!, it's like pissing in a swimming pool!!! Why are you all intent on taxing yourselves to death and have nothing to show for it? The U.S. Has no so-called "carbon pricing" and neither do China, India, or Russia. So please stop with the priggish arguments about climate change, because all this is, is an attempt to suck more money out of consumers wrapped in the guise of social responsibility with the hope that no one dare question the intent as Kathleen Wynne hopes. Harper was correct that carbon pricing has nothing to do with climate change and everything to do with raising revenue full stop!

Couldn't have said it better. Carbon taxes and cap and trade have been an abysmal failure all over Europe and has done absolutely nothing for the environment yet our politicians can't seem to grasp that or they simply refuse to even think about it. Is it any wonder the U.S. refuses to get involved in this joke. The Americans can't wait for us to implement carbon taxes as it will give their businesses and manufacturers a huge advantage over us as our manufacturing sector will be slapped with carbon taxes and even higher corporate taxes which is what Mulcair is already promising.

 

[lomotil]

The Tar Sands are in their twilight. Once Iranian oil floods the world with discount oil, watch Alberta transition to a have not province with the provincial Alberta Government elevating the hand outs to the have nots. The Alberta recession will further recess the Loonie.

 

[Insidious Von]

That's already happening, the Iraqi government is doing a surprisingly good job of getting its reserves from the Black Gold Crescent to market. Iran boosting its quota will only make matters worse.

I don't have a problem with what McQuaig said. The reality is bitumen extraction is poisonous to the environment, regardless of how angelic Syncrude and the rest make themselves look. The people of BC, Washington and Oregon are witnessing the decimation of their salmon stocks, no simplistic jargon on the benefits of the oilsands will change that. Future Canadians will pay for Harper's non-existent environmental policy, perhaps we should be looking at lessening their burden.

But I agree cap and trade and a carbon tax are an extremely feeble response to the problem.

 

[Why Not?]

True enough. She said a lot of the oilsands oil may have to stay in the ground.

I was watching Power and Politics when it happened and the Conservative candidate pounced on it during the show.

I did have a sense while I was watching it that McQuaig had gone off-script.

What she said was that the oil sands oil may have to stay in the ground if we are to meet the commitments Canada has made about greenhouse gas reductions. These would be the commitments made by the Harper government. She may actually be technically correct.

I'm not a fan of her but she did not say it was unlikely to be tapped. It was dumb of her to say it as she is off message.