Hpv question

drewstar

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Hey everyone, recently I had a fellow hobbyist not on terb inquire with me that one of their ATF has since been witholding back services such as bbbjcimsw, cob, etc (basically eveything besides cfs that she provided to him in the past is now covered) and he was concerned that despite having taken gardasil and having no symptoms for several months since the discovery and subsequent simple treatment (which apparently almost half of all adults will get sometime in their life), that he'll never be able to enjoy those services with her again. Im curious as to whether or not anyone has also encountered a similar case and how they dealt with it? He said that it is usually not something that you can prove has gone away even if you have no symptoms . However, within 2-3 months is usually the timeframe to know with almost near certainty that its an issue gone forever if nothing comes back (usually due to a strong immune system).

Basically, should he go to the local walk in clinic for a doctors note per say, or any sexual health clinic/family doctor for something to prove in writing so that one of his favourite providers provides him her full menu once again? I will pass on any information thanks in advance.
 

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Personally, I doubt it.

Despite a medical document stating a clean bill of health, that comfort level may be gone. If she was his ATF, her main thought may very well be that if she wasn't providing the services he wanted during his time of infection/treatment, he could have gotten from elsewhere, given it to someone else or contracted something again.

Ensue the domino effect, so to speak.

I wouldn't necessarily say it is a rational train of thought, but from a provider standpoint, if there is even the slightest hint of infection talk, it is a serious deal. Think of it like the broken mirror analogy. Better to walk away than to try and put the pieces back together. Even if you do, the reflection is still broken.

P.S. How old is this guy? He took Gardasil? Is he still in his twenties or is he older?

P.P.S. How educated is the lady about the numerous strains and is she aware of the specific one he contracted? Just curious.
People tend to fear what they do not know. HPV although quite common can be something terrifying to someone with little knowledge of what a person had specifically and a minor reassurance that they are okay.

*Imagine if you saw an SP who told you she recently caught chlamydia but is totally okay now...
Quite an easy fix but would you feel the same around her? At least for the present time period?
 

drewstar

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It was a friend of a friend who brought it up randomly during a social setting amongst a group of dudes, he was probably in his twenties or early thirties I would guess. I thought Id ask this question since it peaked my interest too. From what I gather, theoretically any hobbyist or companion could have something like this and not show symptoms for years. Should we all be concerned within this hobby or is this the kind of risk that could happen to any of us at any given time even if you and your partner are both vacinnated?
 

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HPV is pretty common in this industry. Remember the vaccine doesn't cover all strains of HPV. Just like a raincoat won't prevent you from getting wet. HVP is not deadly like HIV but yes can lead to heath problems when you get older. Like smoking, smoking leads to health problems later in life but people still smoke. Do we all of a sudden stop enjoying sex with our ATFs?
 

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HPV is pretty common in this industry. Remember the vaccine doesn't cover all strains of HPV. Just like a raincoat won't prevent you from getting wet. HVP is not deadly like HIV but yes can lead to heath problems when you get older. Like smoking, smoking leads to health problems later in life but people still smoke. Do we all of a sudden stop enjoying sex with our ATFs?
I wouldn't say to start freaking out but it is something to be taken seriously and dealt with, once known about, regardless of if it is skin lesions we are talking about or something else.

I'm not sure about it not being deadly but knowledge is power. It's better to get yourself checked out. I'd prefer to know if I have a certain strain that is succeptible to a terminal illness or if my cells present abornmal patterns, than to just chuck it up to being extremely common.

I think people take this sort of thing way too lightly and it is extremely foolish to liken it to smoking or health problems when you get older. Or likening it to something like HIV. Certain strands of HPV are common but to think that this in itself is completely harmless is false.

It's not about ceasing to enjoy, but to educate and protect yourselves accordingly within reason.
 

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I like sex too much to quit the hobby but I know the risks and I do get tested at Hassle Free Clinic (great staff BTW). Just like many smokers who like it too much not to quit and they know the risks to their health. My attitude is why live life and not enjoy it. Life is short enough.
 

Chloë.

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I like sex too much to quit the hobby but I know the risks. Just like many smokers who like it too much not to quit and they know the risks to their health. My attitude is why live life and not enjoy it. Life is short enough.
That isn't my point.

My point is taking an illness so lightly to the point where an infection seems like nothing.

Smoking is something quite different as you inhale the carcinogens personally. You seal your own fate with that one. STI's you can contract and give to another unsuspecting individual if you aren't aware or careful, IF you do have one. If you are aware of your personal health, it is a greater good for society.
 

drewstar

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I wouldn't say to start freaking out but it is something to be taken seriously and dealt with, once known about, regardless of if it is skin lesions we are talking about or something else.

I'm not sure about it not being deadly but knowledge is power. It's better to get yourself checked out. I'd prefer to know if I have a certain strain that is succeptible to a terminal illness or if my cells present abornmal patterns, than to just chuck it up to being extremely common.

I think people take this sort of thing way too lightly and it is extremely foolish to liken it to smoking or health problems when you get older. Or likening it to something like HIV. Certain strands of HPV are common but to think that this in itself is completely harmless is false.

It's not about ceasing to enjoy, but to educate and protect yourselves accordingly within reason.
The skin lesion part what do you mean by that exactly? Is it possible for someone to get hpv or whatever through cutting yourself then.
 

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I like sex too much to quit the hobby but I know the risks and I do get tested at Hassle Free Clinic (great staff BTW). Just like many smokers who like it too much not to quit and they know the risks to their health. My attitude is why live life and not enjoy it. Life is short enough.
Yes. Hassle free is great facility.
 

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That isn't my point.

My point is taking an illness so lightly to the point where an infection seems like nothing.

Smoking is something quite different as you inhale the carcinogens personally. You seal your own fate with that one. STI's you can contract and give to another unsuspecting individual if you aren't aware or careful, IF you do have one. If you are aware of your personal health, it is a greater good for society.
My point is that I don't take it lightly either, that's why I visit Hassle free clinic but I am not going stop hobbying. Not yet anyways.
 

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The skin lesion part what do you mean by that exactly? Is it possible for someone to get hpv or whatever through cutting yourself then.
Maybe she meant warts often caused by HPV. You can get HPV from something like a pussy slide along your penis and balls. Mostly from contact with each other genitals.
 

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The skin lesion part what do you mean by that exactly? Is it possible for someone to get hpv or whatever through cutting yourself then.
It is through direct contact with skin with someone who has the virus, or oral/vaginal/anal. But the type of lesion you get depends on the specific strand. Some are low risk and not cancerous and some are high.

You CAN get whatever from a break in the skin or a cut though. By whatever, I really mean other infections obviously lol. But I'm sure you are aware of that. Blood is no joke.
 

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Maybe she meant warts often caused by HPV.
Not necessarily only warts. Most are low risk. The virus changes a cell's state when it comes into contact, called lesions as well. It can change the behaviour of a cell into that of a cancer, like the 16 and 18 type strands. Higher risk. Dangerous if ignored.
 

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Taking gardasil after contracting HPV is too late. The vaccine is effective for prevention only.
 

glamphotographer

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Taking gardasil after contracting HPV is too late. The vaccine is effective for prevention only.
Plus it's only effective for young people up to age 26. Research data is unclear how effective it is for anyone older. There is no cure for HPV yet. Thankfully there is a cure for Gonorrhea and Chlamydia.
 

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Plus it's only effect for young people up to age 26. Research data is unclear how effective it is for anyone older.
Ideally it is best to get vaccinated before sexual activity so I'm guessing that's a slight indicator as to effectiveness. I'm hoping SOMEONE will solidify their research within the next few decades on the effectiveness past a certain age. People are quite divisive on the issue yet you can still get the shot if you please, which I find nonsensical.
 

drewstar

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Ideally it is best to get vaccinated before sexual activity so I'm guessing that's a slight indicator as to effectiveness. I'm hoping SOMEONE will solidify their research within the next few decades on the effectiveness past a certain age. People are quite divisive on the issue yet you can still get the shot if you please, which I find nonsensical.
Does everyone in the Canadian education system get vaccinated then? Is it mandatory?
 
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