How to Respond to "Are you independant or with an agency?"

[A.J. Raven]

This is mainly for the girls, but some insight from the guys would be welcome.

I have gotten this question a number of times, as well as other questions about how I operate my business of being an escort. I am concerned that offering any inforation about this can put me in jeopardy. I assume that if a guy is asking me if I am "really independant" (or other questions about how I run things), then perhaps he is trying to find out how vulnerable I am if he is planning to take advantage of me in some way.

My answer so far has been along the lines of "Respectfully, this is none of your concern. The quality of my service is consistant. Whether or not I work with an agency has no affect on our meeting."

There are other questions that make me nervous but this one is the most common. I don't want to be sarcastic in my response since that is not my personality; but I could easily reply with "How do you plan to hide this from your wife/girlfriend/boss/co-workers?"

Some constructive opinions and insight would be appreciated. Thanks!

 

[Damondean]

I think the reason guys ask this is because they like to see the entire fee go to the lady. Some guys have a real hangup about that.

Also, there is a perception that agency bookings are more rushed.

 

[xarir]

Some guys have a hang-up about location because of concierge at apartments. On the other hand, some girls are not terribly discreet at apartments which could lead to concerns with neighbours who could end up reporting suspicious activities. So type of location can make a difference to some.

Regarding independent / agency affiliated, some guys just prefer that the fee goes to the lady and not to the agency. I've seen ladies in the past and I would have preferred they get a greater cut than they did.

Ultimately how people spend money is their own concern, but it's fair to (discreetly) ask questions. As a parallel, if I want to support the "green" movement and buy 100% post-consumer recycled stuff which happens to cost 20% more than non-recycled stuff, that's my concern. People will support the things (or ladies in this case) that they want to. It's not a big deal - it's just the way some people are.

 

[Tee11]

quick replies...

a) abt the kind of location : I do worry abt the concierge at condos....

b) indy or not...I do find the indies are more relaxed abt the time....I have enjoyed my time more with the independent ladies as i feel more realxed with them

just my take though...

 

[Damondean]

I don't understand why asking about the location should be an issue. Guys want to know what situation they are walking into.

 

[tboy]

I'd just like to point out that just because a guy asks questions, that doesn't necessarily mean he has an ulterior motive.

1) As for the type of building: yeah, if it's an apartment and she is relatively busy, the neighbours KNOW what's going on and I for one do not want to be looked upon with distain. If it's a hotel? She probably doesn't get the same room, on the same floor, and her neighbours wouldn't be the same.

2) It is also my experience that indies are more relaxed with their time. For the record, even if the lady wanted to stay longer, the agency hounds her via the phone until she finally leaves. I know this for a fact because it has happened to me on more than one occasions. We've been sitting there, chatting and cuddling and the phone rings and she groans....god, I just want to lie here for a bit....I have a 2 person jacuzzi tub at my place and the agency lady said that she'd love to go for a nice long soak with me (afterwards). I said sorry, but with 10 minutes left we don't have time. I know one time I had one just not answer her phone because she wanted to stay longer but they called like 3 times, then started calling on my home phone. I know they were probably getting worried but I'd seen this lady 20 times and there was never a problem so....

Main intersection: so we know how far you are from where we are
House or apartment: so we know what to look for
Big building or small: see above with the neighbour problem. Generally smaller buildings everyone knows everyone.

Anyhow, that's my take on that lol....

 

[atherton_wing]

Should never be asked...

Answering that you are independent is often very dangerous...

There are many creeps out there who specifically target ladies who do not have an agency behind them.

Does anyone need to be reminded that this business is dangerous: two girls were murdered in Vancouver last year at incall locations; a girl got attacked in Calgary, etc. I am sure that I could go on, but I am not as familiar with Toronto.

So, to answer your question - no. A lady should never confirm over the phone that she is alone. It opens the door to too many nutjobs.

If being rushed is the main concern by guys just answer that you always give the full time and are not a clockwatcher.

However, it is my experience that gentlemen asking about time, are not concerned about getting their full time, but are more concerned about trying to sneak in some free time.

 

[tboy]

Well A/W, not to diminish the hazards of this business but if you take a look at the number of successful pleasant dates, with the ones that are troublesome or end in violence, I'd say the ratio of good to bad dates is extremely high. Not to say a woman shouldn't be careful, but one can't go through life (or this profession) assuming that everyone is a creep.

As for confirming whether they are 'alone' or not, they should never do that. However, being indy doesn't necessarily mean she is alone. Heck, I know many indies that use a driver service where they check in no differently than agency ladies. I mean seriously, if someone calls and asks "when you come to my place, do you have any backup"??? SP: "Oh no, I don't use a service or anyone to check in with me or to cover my back. You can do whatever you want with me.....*rollseyes*".

 

[KBear]

Guys could be asking questions just to hear the girl’s response, to hear her voice and try to pick up on her attitude. In some cases the girl’s voice is all the guy has to go on before committing his time to go to a location.

Some guys have a hard time walking if the girl is not what he was looking for, or if it turns out the girl has a bad attitude. For these guys, it would be better to find out the girl has a bad attitude before he goes to the location and is separated from his money.

Got to really feel sorry for the guys that cant walk when they are in a bad situation.

 

[tboy]

ok, I find myself severely chastised......but I have had some pretty detailed conversations with sp's and while some of the stuff I've been told is more than a little weird, the "bad" date stories were few and far between....maybe they were just lucky?

<<<<< skulks away quietly

 

[atherton_wing]

Great to talk...but ask the right questions

Guys could be asking questions just to hear the girl’s response, to hear her voice and try to pick up on her attitude. In some cases the girl’s voice is all the guy has to go on before committing his time to go to a location.

Some guys have a hard time walking if the girl is not what he was looking for, or if it turns out the girl has a bad attitude. For these guys, it would be better to find out the girl has a bad attitude before he goes to the location and is separated from his money.

Got to really feel sorry for the guys that cant walk when they are in a bad situation.

I think it is a great idea to have a conversation with a lady to determine if she is friendly on the phone. However, the questions that you ask should not make the lady feel uncomfortable, and asking whether or not there is anyone else around WILL make her feel uncomfortable. Perhaps you should ask other questions: how is your day today? Enjoying the weather? Any plans for a summer vacation? Do you enjoy Toronto? Did you hear the latest news story? Isn't Stephen Harper a jerk? etc.

I also think it is beneficial for the sp to talk to the client - if he sounds creepy on the phone, then he is probably creepy in person.

 

[atherton_wing]

One more thing...

Yes, jerks are far and few between; however, the longer you work in this business than the higher your chances will be to meet one of them.