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House voted for Federal Emergency Act

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With the help of the NDP it passes the vote in the house.

Guess people can’t say anything now. It went through the legal process and was accepted.
Bs! Justin was so sure of being right, he made it a confidence vote.
 

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Bs! Justin was so sure of being right, he made it a confidence vote.
So the house didn’t vote? What is BS? The outcome you don’t like? Cause I am pretty sure I posted a fact here.

They had 7 days to take it to the house for a vote and they did. How is this a confidence vote? And if it was, clearly he was right in being “so sure he was right”. LO

 
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So the house didn’t vote? What is BS? The outcome you don’t like? Cause I am pretty sure I posted a fact here.

They had 7 days to take it to the house for a vote and they did. How is this a confidence vote? And if it was, clearly he was right in being “so sure he was right”. LO

😆 He could have easily made it a "free" vote. Or, better yet, since there is absolutely no need to invoke the Act, just back away. Instead he FORCED his members and the idiotic NDP- which is broke- to vote with him just to prevent another election.
 

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😆 He could have easily made it a "free" vote. Or, better yet, since there is absolutely no need to invoke the Act, just back away. Instead he FORCED his members and the idiotic NDP- which is broke- to vote with him just to prevent another election.
When enacting the Emergency Act, the current government has 7 days to bring it to the House for a vote. That is the rules. That is the law. That is what he did.

He didn’t prevent anything. If other members of Parliament want to bring a vote of no confidence, they can still do so. Nobody is. That is telling in itself.

Face it bud - your side lost. Legally. liberals won the latest election. Legally. They got the votes for the Emergency act. Legally. The people spoke with their vote and this is what is and has been done. Again - all legally.
 

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When enacting the Emergency Act, the current government has 7 days to bring it to the House for a vote. That is the rules. That is the law. That is what he did.

He didn’t prevent anything. If other members of Parliament want to bring a vote of no confidence, they can still do so. Nobody is. That is telling in itself.

Face it bud - your side lost. Legally. liberals won the latest election. Legally. They got the votes for the Emergency act. Legally. The people spoke with their vote and this is what is and has been done. Again - all legally.
Actually, all sides lost. Not now or in the near future, but the precedent has been set. One day, PM Poilievre or somebody else, will reach for the Act to crash the civil service strikes or Native occupations or any other protest it will deem illegal. And he will make it a confidence vote and the sheep will line up just like they did this time. To be honest, I wouldn't mind living long enough just to see it because I love a good laugh.
 

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Actually, all sides lost. Not now or in the near future, but the precedent has been set. One day, PM Poilievre or somebody else, will reach for the Act to crash the civil service strikes or Native occupations or any other protest it will deem illegal. And he will make it a confidence vote and the sheep will line up just like they did this time. To be honest, I wouldn't mind living long enough just to see it because I love a good laugh.
So you want this type of instability? So you can have a laugh? Really?

Quite pathetic if you ask me.
 
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So you want this type of instability? So you can have a laugh? Really?

Quite pathetic if you ask me.
Citizens protesting is not an instability. It's a characteristic of a democratic, free society. Crashing that right is a function of fascism.
 

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jcpro.... is there any way we sheep can help you run the world?

We would not need to elect representatives to a Parliament we don't need , judges, Doctors, researchers and more. These idiots are always wrong and you are right anyways.

Let's just save all the money on elections etc and YOU can be The Supreme Ruler.

Would you make the sacrifice and divert your thousands of hours on TERB to actually making a difference?

Can you, will you, JC?
 
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Citizens protesting is not an instability. It's a characteristic of a democratic, free society. Crashing that right is a function of fascism.
Of course that went over your head. LMAO.

You were talking about the government abusing power. That is your opinion, correct? So if what you say will happen, then there is governmental instability based on your opinion. So you want this to happen to have a laugh? I find that pathetic.
 

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With the help of the NDP it passes the vote in the house.

Guess people can’t say anything now. It went through the legal process and was accepted.
We can still disagree. I see no reason for them to keep up the suspension of civil liberties in Canada for another three weeks. The occupiers are gone.

That the government is being vague is worrisome. They refuse to set limits on time. And seem to be indicating it could be extended.

More importantly a precedent has now been sent. Remember that if another party uses it for any protest that lasts more than a day. Any govt funded pipeline could fall under the same category. Any number of other protests that inhibit traffic. Any complaints from residents.

I would have put up with this if they ended it by this friday, but now I consider it taken too far.
 

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😆 He could have easily made it a "free" vote. Or, better yet, since there is absolutely no need to invoke the Act, just back away. Instead he FORCED his members and the idiotic NDP- which is broke- to vote with him just to prevent another election.
The results probably wouldn't have been different if it was a free vote. But, I think he was right in calling it a confidence vote. So, stop pretending he suspended the charter or made mass arrests of anyone. Because those things didn't happen. If the police in Ottawa, or even Doug Ford, did something sooner, there wouldn't have been a need to use the EA. And Ford and a few other Premiers ask Trudeau to do something. Well, what could he do? Any PM has limited scope in what they can do in times like this, and the EA is actually pretty good. The Charter isn't suspended, there will be a mandatory review on the action once it ends, and parliament has another opportunity to vote against it in the coming weeks. This is democracy in action.
 

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We can still disagree. I see no reason for them to keep up the suspension of civil liberties in Canada for another three weeks. The occupiers are gone.

That the government is being vague is worrisome. They refuse to set limits on time. And seem to be indicating it could be extended.

More importantly a precedent has now been sent. Remember that if another party uses it for any protest that lasts more than a day. Any govt funded pipeline could fall under the same category. Any number of other protests that inhibit traffic. Any complaints from residents.

I would have put up with this if they ended it by this friday, but now I consider it taken too far.
Oh to be clear - I don’t think we needed a war time act to be enacted. And I don’t agree with extending it. I guess I didn’t put my own personal opinion in there so by posting the news, I made it look like I was supporting it.

And to be fair when I said to JC that his side lost - I didn’t mean that as “my” side won. I have been vocal about supporting the vaccine but not vaccine mandates and while I don’t support the protest cause based on the organizers intent, and I feel truckers got played by the Maverick party, I do believe in peaceful protest and agree this has now set precedent.
 

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The Liberals are going to get crushed in the next election which will likely come by next spring. You mess with people's basic freedoms you get punished.
 
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Actually, all sides lost. Not now or in the near future, but the precedent has been set. One day, PM Poilievre or somebody else, will reach for the Act to crash the civil service strikes or Native occupations or any other protest it will deem illegal. And he will make it a confidence vote and the sheep will line up just like they did this time. To be honest, I wouldn't mind living long enough just to see it because I love a good laugh.
I usually don't post in the vitriol, hyperbole and virtue signaling forum but jcpro is right. There are no winners here. The Emergency Act did not need to be enacted to end this protest/occupation. More of our elected MP's opposed it than wanted it (including some Liberals) but they didn't want to trigger another election. Like jcpro said I think the Emergency Act will be soon the norm to quell whatever protests/occupations the standing government does not like or deems illegal, especially if they have a majority government. For Liberals, this is one of them, people protesting what they see as government overreach. For Conservatives it will be a climate change or a BLM protest.

We can see this happening in the US with impeachment proceedings. Now that Trump was impeached, twice, every majority congress will now impeach every sitting president from the opposing party. I fully expect Biden will be impeached if the Republicans win back the house in November. Impeachment is just a political partisan tool now, and the Emergency Act in Canada could very well become the same thing.
 
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It's needed, a few days ago, police blocked a convoy in Manitoba on its way to Ottawa, and today a man with a gun is at the Rideau Centre in Ottawa, everyone told to go home. The act will stay for a long time as acts of domestic terrorism starts to rise.
 
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I will keep repeating this as long as some people insist on perpetrating the lie that these protests are about truckers, vaccines and mandates.

This entire shit-show has been orchestrated, not by truckers, but by far-right Alberta separatists who are trying to destabilize the Canadian government. Every one of the main organizers is an Alberta separatist.

Why do so many Albertans want to separate? Essentially, it's because they're a bunch of loud, angry, oil-obsessed malcontents, driving around in huge pickup trucks acting like assholes and they are pissed off at the rest of Canada for not loving them for acting like assholes.
 
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