House passes Health Care reform!!!
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Well he can't threaten us with a fireing squad if we do not conform.
I am sure that cane up in conversation.
Yes, if you like longer wait times, reduction of advanced-care techniques and costlier illness, then yes, this is great news.
Did you know that the average cost per person for health care in Canada is $4000. That means a family of four pays on average $16,000 a year for public health care. That is much more expensive that private coverage in the states.
Are you saying the cost is out of pocket cost per Canadian citizens or the average cost of providing medical service to that Canadian.
I know how much I've paid over the years, as it's part of my tax return calculations, and it's no where near that for my family.
You need to clarify that point. How does it compare to the US? I'll beat the US is double that for less quality care. Here we go again on quality VS quantity and the facts have been put forth in great depth and breadth on that argument some time back and laid to rest, or so I thought.
The contradiction against the democrats that I see in the US plan is, if everyone ends up with "insurance" (i.e.: someone else pays for the bills), then why will the costs for health care exist at all? I wonder what the stocks for the private US "for profit" health insurance stocks will be tomorrow. Additionally, a monetary fine and/or jail time (like Jon Boner said) is really unconstitutional. Then why is the Massachusetts state version not in court, yet? I hear that state is in the worst shape ever.
Another one is against the Republicans. If they are now providing alternative plans, why didn't they do that when they were in "charge"? Why was the good idea of interstate insurance plans (i.e.: if New York cost $450.00 a month, but Oklahoma was $250.00 a month, then just buy the OK plan) not provided at all by the Republicans in, say, 2002, 2003, or 2005?.
No doubt the US health care industry is by far the most corrupt when it comes to finances, it's really a protected bubble. Well, probably not anymore. CNBC is on tomorrow.
Gyaos Baltar.
Another one is against the Republicans. If they are now providing alternative plans, why didn't they do that when they were in "charge"? Why was the good idea of interstate insurance plans (i.e.: if New York cost $450.00 a month, but Oklahoma was $250.00 a month, then just buy the OK plan) not provided at all by the Republicans in, say, 2002, 2003, or 2005?.
No doubt the US health care industry is by far the most corrupt when it comes to finances, it's really a protected bubble. Well, probably not anymore. CNBC is on tomorrow.
Gyaos Baltar.
This is the biggest problem, the massive corruption in the US Health system. This is the main reason US healthcare costs double what other countries pay and end up with inferior care to boot.
Sadly the GOP wants to protect this sorry state of affairs and is being paid handsomely to block any meaningful reforms to correct this corruption.
Watch for Mullah Limbaugh to encourage his mindless lemming loons to act even more loony than they already have been in his Radio Rant monday!...
Maybe per capita cost per citizen paid by all our taxes?
For sure I'm under the average, have't been to the doctor for any type of illness, check up etc. for probably close to fifteen years.
Thats for sure. The tax cost for a taxpayer in Ontario with taxable income of $100,000 is $750.00 per annum. And thats it. We don't pay the doctors or the hospitals. Just show them our health card.
Not a chance....I'm a superb physical specimen, in every possible way.rafterman, perhaps you're due for a visit...
Ha ha ha.
Seriously though I bet I've been to the doctor maybe four or five times since I was a teenager.
I'm sceptical of the annual check up although I'm now of that age 50+ where stuff is more likely to go wrong.
Before anyone gets excited I think it needs to be noted that the bill passed by only 5 votes out of 435 Representatives. If even 3 had changed their mind it would have gone down. Also not a good sign that nearly 40 Democrats voted no. The House was supposed to be the easy part of this and it barely passed and took until November to get it done. Nothing close to this bill is going to pass the Senate.
Sounds to me like he's under 30 and thinks he's immortal, just saying. Oops, wrong again. Darn it.rafterman, perhaps you're due for a visit...
... and yet the other side is 'a win is a win'. Now it's in the books. To much thinking going on here, bad for the digestion.
Only as a House vote. Getting this through the Senate is something else entirely.
That's because US senators are more honest than House members. When they're bought, they stay bought.
jwm
