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Lol, Safe-Pierre will put the worst layNpreyin on Diaz that the UFC has ever seen. Mark my words.
There's no wayy George will sub, KO, out box, out bjj Nick so as always he will try to take him down and lay on him for 5rds and get the UD on points. I think he will be in for a surprise when he goes to the ground with Nick. This is a bad matchup for George.
Diaz will beat GSP.

George is lucky Chael Sonnen isnt his opponent then he'd see what disrespect really is.lol
 

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So Pierre handles BJ beautifully both times in his career, WHILE BJ was in his Prime.
Nick goes toe-to-toe with BJ slapping like a bitch, never once really turning his punch over.

I wonder if Pierre will toy with Diaz like he did BJ and Koschek with his left jab?
 

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. I think he will be in for a surprise when he goes to the ground with Nick. This is a bad matchup for George.
Diaz will beat GSP.
You have got to be kidding. This post was a joke right?
No sane human being would believe this nonsense.
Nick Diaz had no chance against ther quicker, stronger, more skilled, and smarter GSP
 

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Please honestly...watch some footage on Diaz regarding his ground game. He's deadly on the ground and easily submits people with unorthodox submissions. If GSP wins it will be on a decision......grinding holding clutching evading. One mistake and Diaz will make him pay. But thats what GSP excels at....not fighting.
 

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Lol, Safe-Pierre will put the worst layNpreyin on Diaz that the UFC has ever seen. Mark my words.
There's no wayy George will sub, KO, out box, out bjj Nick so as always he will try to take him down and lay on him for 5rds and get the UD on points. I think he will be in for a surprise when he goes to the ground with Nick. This is a bad matchup for George.
Diaz will beat GSP.
the thing is, nick has always trouble with wrestlers (specially the ones who have good striking). If you watch diaz-penn, Penn doesn't move a lot and just stayed in front of diaz. But even that, he still can't finish a smaller penn. Now if you see how george fights, he moves a lot, quicker, stronger. I don't know if george can finish diaz but i can see him manhandling diaz for 5 rounds.
 

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Seems I remember the same thing being said about Matt Serra.
One well timed, well placed hit is all it takes.
Did you see what happened with Matt Sera the second time around? lmao
 

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You obviously didn't see the first fight now did you? Now go watch it again and tell again tell me how beautifully he handled Penn in the first round,lol.
What happened after the first round? Or let alone, the rest of the fight? ;)
 

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What happened after the first round? Or let alone, the rest of the fight? ;)
You said and I quote '' So Pierre handles BJ beautifully both times in his career''

Well dude getting tooled in the first round does not constitute beautifully handling an opponent.

Now to GSP's credit he did recover and did enough to win the fight. That meaning dragging him down and controlling him for the next two rounds.

And while we are at it isn't it interesting that George wasn't interested in standing with BJ at all in the rest of the fight or in the next one either for that matter.

Yet Diaz comes out and stands right in front of him for the entire fight. Wonder why that is.
 

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the thing is, nick has always trouble with wrestlers (specially the ones who have good striking). If you watch diaz-penn, Penn doesn't move a lot and just stayed in front of diaz. But even that, he still can't finish a smaller penn. Now if you see how george fights, he moves a lot, quicker, stronger. I don't know if george can finish diaz but i can see him manhandling diaz for 5 rounds.
According to Freddie Roach Bj has the best boxing in MMA. And he has worked with GSP.

So if we extrapolate from Freddie's comments then how will GSP manhandle him for five rounds in the stand up when BJ could not. I'm assuming that the stand up is the area that you are talking about because you didn't mention any other.

And as for finishing BJ well that fight wouldn't have lasted another round now would it. Ceasar Gracie asked the UFC to make it a five rounder when it was bumped to the main event but The Penn camp wanted to be compensated,lol. Gee I wonder why?
 

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You said and I quote '' So Pierre handles BJ beautifully both times in his career''

Well dude getting tooled in the first round does not constitute beautifully handling an opponent.

Now to GSP's credit he did recover and did enough to win the fight. That meaning dragging him down and controlling him for the next two rounds.

And while we are at it isn't it interesting that George wasn't interested in standing with BJ at all in the rest of the fight or in the next one either for that matter.

Yet Diaz comes out and stands right in front of him for the entire fight. Wonder why that is.

But, but, but, BJ was supposed to be amazing on the ground and on his back....? Wh-wh-what happened?
Couldn't take a little domination?

BJ lost TWICE to Frankie Edgar btw. That little tiny thing and BJ couldn't handle him? lol
BJ is past his prime and he knows it, he's done, hence the retirement. (plus his family life)


As for Diaz standing in BJ's face, the guy is a street brawler, he's ugly, he knows it, doesn't care if his face gets mangled.
He's a few fries short of a happy meal, not all there.
Here he is after he pussied out of his match with GSP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpqkqpH3U-k
 

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As for Diaz standing in BJ's face, the guy is a street brawler, he's ugly, he knows it, doesn't care if his face gets mangled.
He's a few fries short of a happy meal, not all there.
Here he is after he pussied out of his match with GSP.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpqkqpH3U-k
Street brawler? He's a BJJ black belt under Caesar Gracie and regularly spars boxing with Andre Ward.

Me thinks you are not only a few fries short of the happy meal but the apple turnover as well.
 

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What happened after the first round? Or let alone, the rest of the fight?
It was a split decision that many thought BJ Penn (should have) won.

The second fight - BJ in decline, GSP in ascendency. Better gameplan by GSP with the standup grappling/dirty boxing version of lay and pray, followed by more dry humping. GSP domination.

Two things have hurt BJ Penn in his career: poor dedication to cardio training and no true weight class for him. He's a bit big to be a lightweight and too small to be a welterweight. Both were exposed by GSP and Nick Diaz.

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I see Nick Diaz giving GSP the toughest bout of his career. And his two areas of advantage - boxing and BJJ/subs - are huge factors. Plus we know Nick Diaz is tough and has no quit in him - GSP will pretty much have to knock him out, choke him out or snap a limb to stop Diaz. He won't break him. And we haven't seen GSP stop anyone in their prime in a LONG time.

Diaz's relentless punching will give GSP fits - but his lack of one-punch power is one area GSP's weakness where he'll not have to be overly concerned. Of course the same was said of Serra, pre-upset. And Nick's BJJ from the bottom (I 'think' Georges will take him down almost at will, but we haven't seen Diaz vs. a good wrestler in a long time, so who exactly knows?) will threaten St. Pierre and make the fight even more dry-hump-ilicious or will end badly (read: sub) for GSP if he really is p.o.'d and gets over-eager.

I just don't see GSP taking any chances and see this fight being similar to the Jake Shields one, with Diaz being more competitive. GSP 48-47.
 

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It was a split decision that many thought BJ Penn (should have) won.

The second fight - BJ in decline, GSP in ascendency. Better gameplan by GSP with the standup grappling/dirty boxing version of lay and pray, followed by more dry humping. GSP domination.

Two things have hurt BJ Penn in his career: poor dedication to cardio training and no true weight class for him. He's a bit big to be a lightweight and too small to be a welterweight. Both were exposed by GSP and Nick Diaz.

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I see Nick Diaz giving GSP the toughest bout of his career. And his two areas of advantage - boxing and BJJ/subs - are huge factors. Plus we know Nick Diaz is tough and has no quit in him - GSP will pretty much have to knock him out, choke him out or snap a limb to stop Diaz. He won't break him. And we haven't seen GSP stop anyone in their prime in a LONG time.

Diaz's relentless punching will give GSP fits - but his lack of one-punch power is one area GSP's weakness where he'll not have to be overly concerned. Of course the same was said of Serra, pre-upset. And Nick's BJJ from the bottom (I 'think' Georges will take him down almost at will, but we haven't seen Diaz vs. a good wrestler in a long time, so who exactly knows?) will threaten St. Pierre and make the fight even more dry-hump-ilicious or will end badly (read: sub) for GSP if he really is p.o.'d and gets over-eager.

I just don't see GSP taking any chances and see this fight being similar to the Jake Shields one, with Diaz being more competitive. GSP 48-47.
I agree with most of your take and if you're right about it being similar to Jake's fight remember that Jake suck's ass at striking. His punch's are slow and stiff (kinda like GSP's) and his attempted kicks are embarrasing to watch, like Frankenstein throwing a leg kick. The thing is even though Jake sucked at striking he still managed to connect on Georges face throughout the fight. Now Diaz is a much better technical puncher then Jake look what he did to Cyborg, Daley and Penn. So if George does intend on trading with Nick he will get his face busted up and Nick's punches in bunches will drop George imo. If he takes Nick down Diaz has a very good gaurd and will be looking for subs.

I just cant see George KO'ing or sub-ing Nick, he doesnt have the skillset or the power. The way he will win is to hump his way through 5rds. Odds are George's punching havent improved (no maatter how much Mr Roach teach's him) and he will still be super stiff in his shoulders and telegraph his punches and kicks like before so I don't see the more technically sound, tuffer chined boxer Diaz having to worry much in the standup.

After George TRY'S to stand with Diaz and eats a few right cross's/jabs he will panic and his built in Safe-Pierre mode will kick in automatically and he will take Nick down and try to hold him there for the balance of the fight.

By the way... In the first fight I remember BJ sending GSP to the nearest ER after that fight and bustin up Safe-Pierre's face.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6i1js0V_fG0&feature=related

I agree it was close but (as always) becus of BJ's cardio GSP had a few takedowns late (I think) and that maybe got him the win. GSP's face was busted up pretty good but BJ looked the same as before the fight. I also think that after that fight GSP changed his fighting style to layNprey technique when facing an legit striker for fear of getting punched in the face.

My prediction... Diaz Ko's gsp in the 4th rd and bust's up his face with his reach and underrated boxing skillz.
 
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Street brawler? He's a BJJ black belt under Caesar Gracie and regularly spars boxing with Andre Ward.

Me thinks you are not only a few fries short of the happy meal but the apple turnover as well.

Yes, a street brawler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jpwx_y77yA&feature=results_video&playnext=1&list=PL6C15495FE7EEA2E9

The Jiu-Jistu was probably a way for Mommy and Daddy to help the kids focus on something and was an add-on to focus the inherent idiocy as you can see in both brother's sour puss faces everytime they're on camera.
He has no self control, lots of anger issues and overly cocky.
Can't wait to see GSP dominate him all rounds and beat him with a jab or two.
 

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I'd pay money to watch Nick Diaz fight...GSP, I'd just download it after the fact.

I think that Diaz has a serious chance to take GSP out. Diaz has crazy stamina, an iron chin, and brings a style of fighting that is as unique as Machida. GSP could win all the rounds with takedowns and dirty-boxing, but I'm not sure it'll be that easy.

Here's to hoping the fight won't be easy for either fighter.

Cheers.
 

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GSP has pretty good conditioning as well, not as good as Diaz's though, but Nick had better cut back on the weed and drinking from now to February 4th though.
It'll be a good one to watch with the animosity that is obviously there now.
 
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