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Hamas leader sets conditions for truce
Zahar: Israel must withdraw to pre-1967 borders

Sunday, January 29, 2006
GAZA CITY (CNN) -- A leader of Hamas, the militant group that last week became the controlling force in Palestinian politics, laid out a series of conditions Sunday that he said could lead to years of co-existence alongside Israel.

The conditions included Israel's retreating to its pre-1967 borders and releasing Palestinian prisoners.

Mahmoud al-Zahar, the top Hamas official in Gaza, told CNN's "Late Edition with Wolf Blitzer" that a "long-term hudna or long-term truce" is possible. He would not commit to negotiating with Israel and would not say whether recognizing Israel's existence is a long-term possibility. (Watch Hamas leader list Palestinian conditions -- 7:32)

At Israel's Cabinet meeting, acting Prime Minister Ehud Olmert said Hamas must renounce violence for his country to negotiate with the new Palestinian leaders. (Full story)

"Israel believes there is great importance in putting together a unified international position that will make clear to the Palestinians that it is impossible, under any circumstances, to accept a Palestinian Authority that part of it or more than that is an armed organization that calls for the destruction of Israel," Olmert said.

Israeli Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz issued a warning to Hamas, saying if the organization resorted to terror attacks, it would be the subject of an "unprecedented attack."

Speaking from Gaza City, Zahar said if Israel "is ready to give us the national demand to withdraw from the occupied area [in] '67; to release our detainees; to stop their aggression; to make geographic link between Gaza Strip and West Bank, at that time, with assurance from other sides, we are going to accept to establish our independent state at that time, and give us one or two, 10, 15 years time in order to see what is the real intention of Israel after that."

"We can accept to establish our independent state on the area occupied [in] '67," he said. Israel took control of the West Bank and Gaza in the Six-Day War of 1967.

Zahar did not say how long an independent state in the West Bank and Gaza would be acceptable. Key conditions could allow Palestinians to give a "long-term hudna or long-term truce," and "after that, let time heal," he said.

A "hudna," historically, has referred to a long pause in hostilities, during which armies prepared for later battles.

Will Hamas recognize Israel?
But asked about Hamas' call for Israel's destruction, Zahar would not say whether that remains the goal. "We are not speaking about the future, we are speaking now," he said.

Zahar argued that Israel has no true intention of accepting a Palestinian state, despite international agreements including the Road Map for Middle East peace.

Until Israel says what its final borders will be, Hamas will not say whether it will ever recognize Israel, Zahar said. "If Israel is ready to tell the people what is the official border, after that we are going to answer this question."

Israeli and Palestinian leaders have said final borders must be determined through negotiations.

"Negotiation is not our aim. Negotiation is a method," Zahar said.

Hamas has orchestrated numerous terrorist attacks, killing and wounding scores of civilians -- most, though not all, Israelis. The United States considers Hamas, which also operates an extensive social services network, a terrorist organization.

Asked whether Hamas would renounce terrorism, Zahar argued the definition of terrorism is unfair.

Israel is "killing people and children and removing our agricultural system -- this is terrorism," he said. "When the Americans [are] attacking the Arabic and Islamic world whether in Afghanistan and Iraq and they are playing a dirty game in Lebanon, this is terrorism."

He described Hamas as a "liberating movement."
 

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They have put forward a reasonable face on for the western world. We will have to wait to see what their actions and speeches to their own people show.
 
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So basically Hamas wants to hand out neon "I'M STUPID' forehead stickers for Israelis, sensible Palestinians, Palestinian Authority peace negotiators, American and European negotiators and financial donors to stick on their foreheads.

They're asking everyone to "TRUST" them though they will not committ to changing anything about their Charter and their reality.

They would have you believe that okay, let's have a Palestinian Authority negotiator meet with Israeli's and come back with a plan for a two-state solution and present it to Hamas for approval, even though Hamas' raison-detre is for the destruction of Israeli. C'mon get fuckin' real.
 
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basketcase said:
They have put forward a reasonable face on for the western world. We will have to wait to see what their actions and speeches to their own people show.
It's a face that upon closer inspection is a badly botched face-transplant.
 

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What about Osama?

Bin Laden also offered a truce to the west, right? Hmm why don't we take it? Well both Hamas and Bin Laden are offering the same thing:

"leave us a alone and please ignore the fact that our ulimate and clearly-stated aim -- which we can never give up because it is handed down from Allah -- is to overthrow your governments and create a muslim theocracy in their place. Did we mention that wemight have to kill all ormost of you? Oh and by the way we're not quite ready with our plans yet so we just need you to stop bothering us for, say, 20 or 30 years? Pleeeeease?"

These are not offers one receives from parties with significant strength, but offers from groups on their heels hoping to regroup after years of losses.

SORRY FELLAS AS LONG AS YOUR AIM IS TO KILL OR CONVERT US, WE'LL JUST HAVE TO KEEP ON FIGHTING YOU...
 
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