Greta Thunberg Slams Danish Meat Industry

[oil&gas]

18th September 2024

Climate activist Greta Thunberg has intensified her criticism of Denmark’s meat industry, calling its environmental impact “catastrophic.” In a recent social media post, she slammed the government’s weak policies in addressing the issue.

Denmark, a major producer of pork and beef, is facing increasing scrutiny for the environmental cost of its animal agriculture sector. This industry is responsible for a quarter of the country’s greenhouse gas emissions. Thunberg argues that Denmark needs a drastic “reduction and complete transformation” of its meat production practices if it wants to tackle climate change effectively.

As the government prepares to negotiate a landmark deal, Grøn Trepart, which will shape Denmark’s environmental and agricultural policies for years to come, Thunberg and activists are calling for tougher measures to address the industry’s significant greenhouse gas emissions.

Earlier this year, Denmark made history by becoming the first country to implement a tax on agricultural emissions. While this is a step in the right direction, critics argue that the tax is insufficient and comes too late. Starting in 2030, farmers will be required to pay 120 krone (approximately $17) per metric ton of carbon dioxide equivalents they produce, with this amount increasing to 300 krone ($43) by 2035.

However, Thunberg and activists from Denmark’s Green Youth Movement believe that the government must go further. They advocate for a higher tax on greenhouse gas emissions from meat producers, arguing that the current proposal does not adequately address the industry’s significant environmental impact. Additionally, they have criticized the meat industry’s claims of investing in technological solutions to reduce emissions, asserting that these so-called “techno-fixes” are likely to perpetuate intensive animal farming practices.

In a recent Instagram post, Thunberg called on activists to lobby Danish political parties for stricter agricultural policies, especially demanding a higher emissions tax on animal farming. She insists that Denmark must significantly reduce and completely overhaul its animal agriculture industry.

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Climate activist Greta Thunberg has intensified her criticism of Denmark’s meat industry, calling its environmental impact “catastrophic.” In a recent social media post, she slammed the government’s weak policies in addressing the issue. Denmark, a major producer of pork and beef, is facing...

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[oil&gas]

I am on the side of Thunberg on this even though I've failed miserably
in my attempts to switch to veganism so far. I hope Greta instead of
slamming Denmark's meat industry would make an effort of appealing
to the rest of the world to cut back on meat consumption.

World's current meat consumption could not be sustainable
much longer. I don't have to believe in climate change to see
the benefit of consuming less meat. In the coming years I will
look to the food culture in India as the model to follow so as
to eat less meat and still enjoy every meal.

 

[Frankfooter]

Fires in Portugal, Greece and the Amazon.
Floods all through the EU and the states.

but oil&gas keeps raking in the profits

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[jimidean2011]

I'm so sick of this twat. Meat is the healthiest food on the planet and has sustained human kind FOR MILLENNIA!

 

[Dutch Oven]

Greta is now 21 but still looks and acts like she's 13. I kind of feel sorry for her, because this fantasy life she lives as the puppet of environmental activist elders is unsustainable, and there WILL be a day that her life all comes crashing down around her, and it WILL be personally devastating for her. I don't like to see anyone wasting their life, especially in servitude to some much older manipulator.

 

[oil&gas]

I'm so sick of this twat. Meat is the healthiest food on the planet and has sustained human kind FOR MILLENNIA!

What you said is true. Meat is great if only it is not getting so much
more expensive than it used to be.

 

[bob2613]

What you said is true. Meat is great if only it is not getting so much
more expensive than it used to be.

Visiting an abbatoir will give anyone second thoughts on eating meat

We evolved as omnivores, not solely eating meat. Something a bit strange about killing over 70 billion animals world wide every year to eat meat

As the human population grows farming accounts for 38 per cent of global land use. Farming for meat accounts for 20 per cent of global land use, 29 per cent of the dietary fat we consume and 21 per cent of global protein consumption.

farming is the biggest cause of biodiversity loss globally as we blindly stumble towards a 6th mass extinction caused by humans

• The biomass of terrestrial vegetation worldwide has halved over human history3, with a corresponding loss of more than 20% of this realm’s original biodiversity1.
• More than 70% of the Earth’s land surface has been altered by humans1.
• There have been over 700 vertebrate1, and nearly 600 plant4, extinctions recorded since the 16th Century, and many more species have likely gone extinct unnoticed5.
• Massive population declines that are the precursors to extinction have also occurred worldwide; since only 1970, more than 68% of all terrestrial vertebrate individuals have disappeared6, such that there are now at least one million species threatened with extinction6 out of an estimated 7.3– 10.0 million eukaryotic species on the planet7.
• The total global biomass of wild animals today is < 25% of what it was during the Late Pleistocene8, and even insect species appear to be in rapid decline in many parts of the world9-13.
• There is now less than 15% of the original wetland area that was present during the 18th Century14, and over three-quarters of rivers more than 1000 km long no longer flow freely along their entire course15.
• Over two-thirds of ocean area has been compromised to some extent by human endeavour16
• Live coral cover on reefs has halved since the mid-19th Century17, seagrass extent has been decreasing by 10% per decade over the last century1, kelp forests have declined by nearly 40%18, and the biomass of large predatory fishes is now less than a third of what it was last century19.
• Of the estimated 0.17 Gt of biomass of terrestrial vertebrates on Earth today, most of this is represented by livestock (59%) and living human beings (36%) — only about 5% of this total biomass is taken up by wild mammals, birds, reptiles and amphibians8.
• Even our domesticated species are in decline — some 10% of domesticated breeds of mammals have become extinct in human history, with more than 1000 others threatened with extinction20
• Even cultivated plants are becoming threatened, with about 200 cultivated species threatened with extinction21, and a global homogenisation of food crop species used to feed the world over the last 50 years22.

Source corey bradshaw ecological scientist.

we should note insect population is also declining but yet to be fully studied while data is being collected. if pollinators collapse...

I love a steak, chicken tika masala , ribs on the bbq but we need to change what we are doing. precision fermentation perhaps

 

[jimidean2011]

Visiting an abbatoir will give anyone second thoughts on eating meat

We evolved as omnivores, not solely eating meat. Something a bit strange about killing over 70 billion animals world wide every year to eat meat

As the human population grows farming accounts for 38 per cent of global land use. Farming for meat accounts for 20 per cent of global land use, 29 per cent of the dietary fat we consume and 21 per cent of global protein consumption.

farming is the biggest cause of biodiversity loss globally as we blindly stumble towards a 6th mass extinction caused by humans

• The biomass of terrestrial vegetation worldwide has halved over human history3, with a corresponding loss of more than 20% of this realm’s original biodiversity1.
• More than 70% of the Earth’s land surface has been altered by humans1.
• There have been over 700 vertebrate1, and nearly 600 plant4, extinctions recorded since the 16th Century, and many more species have likely gone extinct unnoticed5.
• Massive population declines that are the precursors to extinction have also occurred worldwide; since only 1970, more than 68% of all terrestrial vertebrate individuals have disappeared6, such that there are now at least one million species threatened with extinction6 out of an estimated 7.3– 10.0 million eukaryotic species on the planet7.
• The total global biomass of wild animals today is < 25% of what it was during the Late Pleistocene8, and even insect species appear to be in rapid decline in many parts of the world9-13.
• There is now less than 15% of the original wetland area that was present during the 18th Century14, and over three-quarters of rivers more than 1000 km long no longer flow freely along their entire course15.
• Over two-thirds of ocean area has been compromised to some extent by human endeavour16
• Live coral cover on reefs has halved since the mid-19th Century17, seagrass extent has been decreasing by 10% per decade over the last century1, kelp forests have declined by nearly 40%18, and the biomass of large predatory fishes is now less than a third of what it was last century19.
• Of the estimated 0.17 Gt of biomass of terrestrial vertebrates on Earth today, most of this is represented by livestock (59%) and living human beings (36%) — only about 5% of this total biomass is taken up by wild mammals, birds, reptiles and amphibians8.
• Even our domesticated species are in decline — some 10% of domesticated breeds of mammals have become extinct in human history, with more than 1000 others threatened with extinction20
• Even cultivated plants are becoming threatened, with about 200 cultivated species threatened with extinction21, and a global homogenisation of food crop species used to feed the world over the last 50 years22.

Source corey bradshaw ecological scientist.

we should note insect population is also declining but yet to be fully studied while data is being collected. if pollinators collapse...

I love a steak, chicken tika masala , ribs on the bbq but we need to change what we are doing. precision fermentation perhaps

Red meat is the most nutrient dense food we have available. Vegan diets are nutritionally incomplete and is essentially a slow suicide.

 

[Frankfooter]

Red meat is the most nutrient dense food we have available. Vegan diets are nutritionally incomplete and is essentially a slow suicide.

Didn't Jordan Peterson nearly kill himself on a meat only diet?

 

[canada-man]

Plants are less nutrients have lower calories, and are harder to digest than meat. why is that vegans feel less full and eat larger portions

vegans always admit this

Do Vegans Need More Calories? - I Am Going Vegan

Some people are amazed after they go vegan. They're eating bigger portions... but they're still losing weight. This is great if you want to slim down, but you

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and denying reality that their diet is less nutritious and have lower calories and feel hungry all the time because they don't know jack about plants

Vegans, this is why you're always hungry

The newly-vegan often struggle with sudden, rapacious hunger. There's a reason why — and it's not hard to curb

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5 Nutrients Meat Has that Plants Don’t

Meat is a natural source of many vitamins, minerals, and amino acids and has specific protein compounds fundamental to overall health. Let’s investigate what nutrients meat has that plants lack.

5. Vitamin B12
The B12 vitamin is almost exclusively found in animal foods, including fish, meat, and eggs.

B12 is crucial to maintain a healthy body. It helps develop red blood cells and helps keep our cells healthy. It also supports and maintains nerve and brain function. B12 increases our energy levels by preventing megaloblastic anemia, which makes people tired and weak.

According to the National Institutes of Health, the average daily recommended amount of B12 for adults is 2.4 micrograms. It’s also important to note that plant foods do not naturally contain any vitamin B12 unless they’re fortified, making it difficult to achieve the recommended daily value on a plant-only diet.

4. Vitamin D
Vitamin D comes in two forms – D2 in plants and D3 in animal foods – and both are important. In our bodies, vitamin D, in both its forms, promotes calcium absorption, helps bone growth and cell growth, reduces inflammation, and works to maintain proper immune function. And, although both forms of vitamin D are vital, a vitamin D3 deficiency has been linked increased risk of cancer, heart disease, and multiple sclerosis.

If you want to increase your vitamin D3 intake, the best sources are fatty fish and egg yolks.

3. DHA
DHA, otherwise known as Docosahexaenoic is an omega-3 fatty acid that’s essential for brain function.

DHA is vital for infant brain development, as well as maintenance and normal brain function for adults. Deficiencies in DHA have been linked to cognitive decline and increased risk of developing Alzheimer’s, cancer, and depression. One study found that a low-fat diet with less DHA increased women’s plasma triglycerides, and the severity of Type 2 diabetes and heart disease.

The best source of DHA is in fatty fish, but there are algal oil supplements you can take if you are following a plant-based diet.

2. Complete Proteins
There are two types of proteins – complete and incomplete – and they differ based on their amino acid profile.

There are over 20 types of amino acids and nine essential amino acids. Complete proteins contain all nine, while incomplete proteins lack at least one amino acid. Because our bodies can’t make these crucial amino acids, they must come from our diet.

Animal-based foods, such as meat, poultry, fish, eggs, and dairy, are all sources of complete proteins. Plant-based foods, like fruits and veggies, seeds, nuts, and grains, lack one or more essential amino acids, making them incomplete proteins and not a good sole source of protein in your diet.


1. Digestive properties
Plant and animal proteins are different because they contain different set of amino acids. But they also differ in digestive processes. Animal-based proteins are more nutritionally efficient than plant-based since they are absorbed into the body more quickly.

It takes the body 36 to 72 hours to properly break down protein into its amino acids where they can be absorbed. Since plant proteins have to link up with other foods that contain the amino acid they lack, digestion and absorption take much longer than animal proteins. How fast a protein is absorbed directly affects our metabolism. Plants’ lack of essential amino acids, specifically branched-chain amino acids (BCAA), provide a lower anabolic effect, meaning lower digestibility.


5 Nutrients Meat Has that Plants Don't - Dirt to Dinner (dirt-to-dinner.com)

 

[canada-man]

Low Sperm Count Associated With Vegetarianism


Although a diet packed full of fruit and vegetables can boost your immune system, avoiding meat completely can have a negative effect on fertility.
Male vegetarians and vegans have a significantly lower sperm count than men who eat meat, according to new research.
A study from Loma Linda University Medical School in southern California found vegetarians and vegans had on average 50 million sperm per ml. Meat eaters had a dramatically higher amount - 70 million sperm per ml.


Vegetarians And Vegans Have Lower Sperm Counts Than Meat Eaters, Research Finds | HuffPost UK Life (huffingtonpost.co.uk)


The dark side of plant-based food – it’s more about money than you may think

Follow the money
Often, those championing vegan diets in the west are unaware of such nuances. In April 2019, for example, Canadian conservation scientist, Brent Loken, addressed India’s Food Standards Authority on behalf of EAT-Lancet’s “Great Food Transformation” campaign, describing India as “a great example” because “a lot of the protein sources come from plants”. Yet such talk in India is far from uncontroversial.

The country ranks 102nd out of 117 qualifying countries on the Global Hunger Index, and only 10% of infants between 6–23 months are adequately fed. While the World Health Organization recommends animal source foods as sources of high-quality nutrients for infants, food policy there spearheads an aggressive new Hindu nationalism that has led to many of India’s minority communities being treated as outsiders. Even eggs in school meals have become politicised. Here, calls to consume less animal products are part of a deeply vexed political context.

Likewise, in Africa, food wars are seen in sharp relief as industrial scale farming by transnationals for crops and vegetables takes fertile land away from mixed family farms (including cattle and dairy), and exacerbates social inequality.

The result is that today, private interest and political prejudices often hide behind the grandest talk of “ethical” diets and planetary sustainability even as the consequences may be nutritional deficiencies, biodiversity-destroying monocultures and the erosion of food sovereignty.

For all the warm talk, global food policy is really an alliance of industry and capital intent on both controlling and distorting food production. We should recall Marx’s warnings against allowing the interests of corporations and private profit to decide what we should eat.

The dark side of plant-based food – it’s more about money than you may think (theconversation.com)

The Hidden Dangers of the Vegan Movement - Ethical Omnivore


How The Vegan Diet Began With A Religious Cult


Veganism, the one that birthed the movement of justice warriors spilling milk over supermarket floors, began with an American cultist receiving a vision about the dangers of masturbation.




That the vegan diet was the solution to masturbation may seem like a reach, but that’s exactly how it went down. Ellen G.White was one of the co-founders of the Seventh Day Adventist Church, just another breakaway faction screaming at everyone that judgement day was banging down the door.

This woman was something of a prophet, receiving warnings from God that masturbation was the driver of moral ruin and death.

As for what was causing so many people to engage in self sabotage, you’re getting no prizes for guessing. In her words:

‘Meat creates a feverish condition in the system, and inflames animal passions’.

Let’s quickly dig through the prophecy of 1863. Regardless of what you feel about the merits of the No Fap movement, we can conclusively say that masturbating doesn’t cause diabetes, epilepsy, blindness, and death.

The idea that meat increases the incidences of masturbation, is more plausible, since a low-fat vegan diet is proven to slash libido. Whether that’s a bad thing, is entirely subjective, although it has to be said that low libido doesn’t exactly flow with the prime evolutionary directives of survive, thrive and procreate.

Still, there are situations where lower libido can be suitable, such as preventing overpopulation. So maybe God had a point.

Ellen G. White at some point recognised that there was more to meat than masturbation, and began blaming it for directly transmitting disease, not least of which was cancer. So to sum up, meat was sensual, and insidious in equal measure.

Despite the many vices, she continued eating meat until 1894, taking just the 31 years to follow her own grand vision. Fortunately, doomsday was kind enough not to jump the gun.

While Ellen G. White did drum up plenty of cult followers and inspired them with her visions, it’s worth wondering what would have been if the prophetess hadn’t been knocked unconscious by a stone at the tenderage of nine.

A missile which rendered her a vegetable for three weeks, and had potentially led to the visions in the form of temporal lobe epileptic seizures. As well as heavily influencing her humourless, hypermoral writings.

But who among us hasn’t misled millions of people with prophetic visions stemming from a brain injury. We shouldn’t be so quick to judge.

Celibacy By Cornflakes
(John Harvey Kellogg)


In any case, there’s much more to the vegan cult origin story than Ellen G. White. She may have breathed it into existence, but it was a bespectacled man a white suit who gave it the wings to become the pervasive force that it is today.

John Harvey Kellogg came into the picture as a little boy in an enthusiastic family of Seventh Day Adventists. He was sharp enough to attract the attention of the prophetess, who then took him under a wing as a protege.

John Kellogg grew into a highly intelligent, highly skilled physician with understandably strong views on the morality of masturbation.

In fact, he proceeded to endure his 40 year marriage without ever consummating it. And if we go as far as to assume he never took the liberty of releasing his tensions, then he will have to go down as a saint of the No Fap community.

According to No Fap, restraining from masturbation increases testosterone, creates mental clarity, and increases the likelihood of sleeping with beautiful women. Now while Mr. Kellogg might not have succeeded in the latter, he certainly was prolific.

Every single one of us can claim to have been touched by this man. Besides creating household items like electric blankets, granola, peanut butter and yoghurt enemas, Mr Kellogg went down in history as the inventor of cornflakes. Which, with a proud Ellen. G White at his shoulder, he created with the goal of slashing libido by taking all the joy out of food.

John Kellogg might have made breakfast much simpler for busy households who didn’t have the time to sit down and wait for the oats to boil. But ultimately, he shouldn’t go down as a net positive contributor to humankind. For one, cornflakes are terrible for you, and he should have just invented the airfryer instead.

As a second, he also pioneered circumcision and female genital mutilation for kids who didn’t subscribe to his views on masturbation. Finally, he began creating meat substitutes out of nutrient bereft soy, which has gone on a magical journey to gift us the fake meats we have stealing space on the supermarket aisles today.

Mr Kellogg, on the whole, was an extremely influential man who thrust the SDA teachings into the public limelight. But he was also a terrible human being, who besides the atrocities already laid out, also was a champion of eugenics, the whole master race concept that led to the holocaust.

How The Vegan Diet Began With A Religious Cult | Sama Hoole (fitawakening.co.uk)

NOW YOU KNOW

cp24, ctv etc won't talk about these facts

 

[canada-man]

So to sum up, this is the birth of veganism.

– It came from a doomsday cult that kept getting doomsday wrong

– Created by a woman with visions induced by a serious brain injury

– Who pinpointed masturbation as the driver of disease, and meat as the force behind it

– Publicised by a celibate doctor who also practiced serious child abuse

– Promoted by his protege who co-founded the largest group of nutritional professionals.

– Which then became a dominant part of the conveyor belt of pro-vegan research and guidelines

– All with no apparent conflict of interest

 

[Frankfooter]

The problem isn't meat. The problem is overpopulation. The more people, the more meat will be consumed. The more of everything will be consumed.

What date is overshoot day fall on now?

 

[Shaquille Oatmeal]

We can recycle, reuse and reduce consumption while maintaining population.

 

[roddermac]

Red meat is the most nutrient dense food we have available. Vegan diets are nutritionally incomplete and is essentially a slow suicide.

So keep letting her eat vegan and hopefully she'll go away for good.

 

[roddermac]

Greta Dumberg gives the pro choice supporters a really good argument

 

[Frankfooter]

If you agree the root cause of climate change, and every other ecological problem, is human overpopulation, then that's where the focus should be. Not on fossil fuels.

That's a tricky question, we are already over carrying capacity using fossil fuels.
We can survive with this population and renewables but we are still in overshoot, the climate is still changing and we are in the midst of the 6th great extinction.

 

[roddermac]

That's a tricky question, we are already over carrying capacity using fossil fuels.
We can survive with this population and renewables but we are still in overshoot, the climate is still changing and we are in the midst of the 6th great extinction.

Keep telling yourself that. Try and grow food to feed 8 billion people using renewables and transport it with EVs

 

[The Oracle]

– Publicised by a celibate doctor who also practiced serious child abuse

Dr. John Kellogg I believe.

 

[Frankfooter]

Keep telling yourself that. Try and grow food to feed 8 billion people using renewables and transport it with EVs

Its better than the alternative.

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