Governor Jesse Ventura Troubled By Official 9/11 Story

[WoodPeckr]

Governor Jesse Ventura Troubled

Paul Joseph Watson | July 1 2005
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/010705venturatroubled.htm

In light of all the other credible whistleblowers coming forward and exclaiming their disbelief about the official explanation behind 9/11, I thought it timely to reprint comments made in a similar vein by former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura.

These comments were made on air last year but received scant attention even in the alternative media.

It is important that we collate as much credible support as possible to cite when making arguments about 9/11.

The evidence for inside involvement has always been there. When public figures who have already earned respect call a spade a spade, it makes it more palatable for the willful 'suspension of disbelief' crowd.

Here are Ventura's comments as made to Black Op Radio.

BLACK OP RADIO HOST ANITA LANGLEY: On the current situation, do you see any parallels [to the JFK assassination] with the way the 9/11 has been treated?

FORMER MINNESOTA GOVERNOR JESSE VENTURA: Well, you know... At first, again, I wanted to believe 9/11, you know. But the problem I have with 9/11 is just a real simple one. I'm trying to figure out -- and of course they're now attempting to answer it somewhat -- how we could have failed so miserably in not having air defense.

Because if you look back particulalrly -- I don't know if you're familiar -- remember Payne Stewart, the golfer?

LANGLEY: Yeah, that's been brought up a few times on this program...

GOV. VENTURA: He was flying in a private jet. And when they had that mechanical malfunction that apparently killed everyone on board, and the jet was up there flying on automatic pilot; well it only took them a matter of minutes to scramble a fighter jet and have it up there on the wing. And had Mr. Stewart's plane, if it looked like it was going to go down and hit a metropolitan area, of course they would blow it out of the air. But when they saw it was just going to land in a field in Nebraska [sic. - actually South Dakota], why they just let it go down and crash on its own.

And the problem I have with 9/11 is that. Where the heck was our defense? Who was sleeping at the wheel? While all of these planes... I mean, I've been to air traffic control when I was Governor, and you've got a dozen people there looking at these dials, watching every plane in their sector. They know where it's going and they know what direction it's supposed to be going

Now, how is it that these planes were able to be hijacked at half hour intervals, turned directly opposite the way they're supposed to be going and no bells went off, no emergency sirens went off, no fighter jets were scrambled? Just what the hell happened in that area of time?! And that's the part that troubles me about 9/11.

HOST LEN OSANIC: Yeah, I find it troubling that the Pentagon got hit at all.

GOV. VENTURA: Yeah, I mean, here's the Pentagon, the head of our military. How was this plane able to circle the city of Baltimore [sic. - actually Arlington] at least once, picking out a target, and then drive into it, and we didn't have -- nothing up in the air? There wasn't one scrambled fighter jet up there to defend in any way, shape, or form? Wow.

OSANIC: Or a missle battery to defend the Pentagon...

GOV VENTURA: Yeah. Anything, anything! And the thing that troubles me about the Bush Administration, nobody ever gets fired.

 

[assoholic]

..whatever the exact details, like Pearl Harbour, without some inside help, it never would have happened. Iran is next.


http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=89&contentid=2396&page=2

 

[Asterix]

Ah yes, when all else fails drag out the conspiracy theories. Any evidence of the US government's complicity in 9/11 that can be presented? Any idea how many people would have to be involved, and keep their mouths shut? Any reason not to believe the far more likely scenario that the US government simply got caught with it's pants down?

 

[assoholic]

..thers a whole mountain of reasons, that you for whatever reason choose to ignore.

 

[Asterix]

Sorry Jasmin, no doubt you are sincere but we seem to have a different definition of what constitutes credible evidence. Most of your links are at best speculation and at worst getting a little close to paranoia. Grainy photos with shadows on the underside of the planes that people say are proof of remote control or missiles are less than convincing. That the FBI blew it's identification of some of the highjackers doesn't surprise me in the least. I grant you that the government is not telling us the whole story and likely never will. There must be an enormous amount of incompetence involved they hope will never see the light of day.

 

[lenharper]

I'm actually more troubled by the fact that the word "Governor" was ever in front of Jesse Ventura's name.

 

[Asterix]

I'm actually more troubled by the fact that the word "Governor" was ever in front of Jesse Ventura's name.

Amen to that. If I wanted an accurate take on what was going on, Jesse would be one of the last people I'd seek out.

 

[lenharper]

Apparently Jesse is about to reveal the Bobby "the Brain" Heenan was complicit in the coverup but he's saving it for PPV.

 

[Asterix]

I have been discussing (well not exactly a discussion in the real meaning of the word) this exact issue on another thread.

Little things such as eye witness reports....

When the Titanic went down, for some reason the electrical system was still working right up until the end and it was lit up like a Christmas tree, (at least they got that part of the technology right). Of the 700 people who survived in the life boats, with the ship in clear view, half were convinced it split in two before it went down, the other half convinced it had not.

 

[WoodPeckr]

What would Arnold say........

I'm actually more troubled by the fact that the word "Governor" was ever in front of Jesse Ventura's name.

Entertainment in the USA.

Geez, maybe it's time for the "Governator" of California Arnold to chime in with his take of what happened! After all the "Governator" has to have more credibility than Jesse Ventura ............

 

[healer677]

Ventura got either - dropped on his head too many times...took too much 'roids...or is on too much pain killers.

In any event, the man is a putz.

 

[WoodPeckr]

More of the JFK assassination.......

Interesting article on what happened in Dallas back then:

A Shooter Looks At The Shot Heard ‘Round The World

http://www.strike-the-root.com/51/herman/herman16.html

Recently I finished reading the definitive book (which I highly recommend) on the obviously, government-sanctioned, JFK assassination. Written from the unique perspective of a professional shooter, "Kill Zone: A Sniper Looks at Dealey Plaza," not only demolishes all the arguments of lone-assassin proponents, but examines the myriad reasons why Kennedy was killed.



“The reason I knew that Oswald could not have done it, was because I could not have done it,” said former US Marine sniper, Craig Roberts. Credited with numerous kills while serving in Vietnam , Roberts turned an objective eye on the shot heard ‘round the world. After he visited Dealey Plaza, after viewing the so-called “sniper’s lair,” on the sixth floor of the book depository, and after staring at the large oak tree overspreading much of Elm Street, Roberts said, “I walked away from the window in disgust. I had seen all I needed to know that Oswald could not have been the lone shooter.”



But Roberts, a retired police investigator, wanted to know what did happen. Not content to dismiss the improbable feat, he delved into the crime from every angle.



“First, I analyzed the scene as a sniper . . . I looked at the engagement angles. It was entirely wrong…Here, from what I could see, three problems arose that would influence my shots. First, the target was moving away at a drastic angle to the right from the window, meaning that I would have to position my body to compete with the wall and a set of vertical water pipes . . . This would be extremely difficult for a right-handed shooter. Second, I would have to be ready to fire exactly when the target emerged past some tree branches that obscured the kill zone. Finally, I would have to deal with two factors at the same time; the curve of the street, and the high-to-low angle formula—a law of physics Oswald would not have known.”



Not content with his own critical appraisal, Roberts turned to another, equally knowledgeable shooter. “According to my friend, Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock, the former senior instructor for the US Marine Corps Sniper Instructor School at Quantico, Virginia, it could not be done as described by the FBI investigators.”



“Let me tell you what we did at Quantico,” Hathcock recalls. “We reconstructed the whole thing: the angle, the range, the moving target, the time limit, the obstacles, everything. I don’t know how many times we tried it, but we couldn’t duplicate what the Warren Commission said Oswald did. Now if I can’t do it, how in the world could a guy who was a non-qual on the rifle range and later only qualified 'marksman' do it?”



Of course, sergeant Carlos Hathcock was only the most famous American military sniper in history, credited with a confirmed 93 kills. But apologists for a lone assassin, who continue to enjoy mainstream media sponsorship 40 years later, continue to argue that an average shooter like Oswald, using a decrepit, war surplus weapon, could have killed Kennedy. Case closed.

Count The Bullets: Blow Away All Arguments

But suppose we took a moment to examine the OBJECTS STRUCK rather than focus on the sound of gunfire witnesses claimed to have heard. Anyone who has seen the original film version of “The Day of The Jackal” realizes that a sniper rifle equipped with a silencer and flash suppressor may be virtually soundless.



1. The first shot strikes the street, sending sparks behind Kennedy's car. Almost unanimous agreement that this first shot--unbelievably--misses everything. Was this Oswald's first and only diversionary shot from the sniper's lair?



2. A second shot strikes a curb near the railroad overpass, wounding bystander James Tague on the cheek. Another shot reportedly gouges a hole in a curb along the north side of Elm, which is hastily patched in an effort to cover the evidence. (Some of these snipers seem to be either rank amateurs or reluctant assassins).

3. A third shot strikes a manhole cover and lodges in the grass. A group of policemen safeguard the site and an unidentified man removes the projectile and pockets it. A report of the find is recorded in newspaper accounts the following day and then denied by government officials.

4. A fourth shot strikes JFK in the back, well below the collar, four inches down from the nape of the neck and well to the right of his spine (John F. Kennedy Autopsy Photos). According to Dallas surgeons, the bullet did not enter deeply.

(cond.)

 

[WoodPeckr]

5. A fifth shot, from the front, strikes JFK in the throat. For the fourth and fifth shots to be connected, as all lone assassin apologists claim, Oswald would have needed to shoot Kennedy from ground level. Trajectory angles eliminate the possibility otherwise. Likewise, the shallow depth of the back wound precludes a rational argument for a through-and-through bullet wound. Noted pathologist, Cyril Wecht, in his 1993 book, Cause of Death, called the Warren report "absolute nonsense" and Specter's single-bullet theory "an asinine, pseudoscientific sham at best."



6. A sixth shot strikes the windshield of the limo, penetrating the glass. "The presidential limousine, which had a bullet hole in the windshield, witnessed by two Dallas police officers, Sergeant Stavis Ellis and Patrolman H.R. Freeman, who saw it in the parking lot of the emergency room at Parkland, and by journalist Richard Dudman--made by a bullet from the front...noted the hole 'just left of center' in the windshield," wrote Craig Roberts in Kill Zone. "According to Ellis, it was not chipped glass at Parkland he saw. 'You could put a pencil through it.'"



7. A seventh shot strikes the chrome trim strip of the limo's windshield. Arguably, this could well have been a fragment since the projectile did not penetrate the light metal. Gerald Posner, writing in Case Closed, wrote that over 60 grams of fragments were recovered from inside the limo. That is a hell of a lot of fragments.



8. An eighth shot strikes a sign along Elm. "The freeway sign, which had a bullet hole through it that came from the direction of the Grassy Knoll, quickly disappeared," said former sniper, Roberts.



9. A ninth shot strikes Texas Governor John Connelly. Lone assassin apologists, like Arlen Specter, John McAdams, William Manchester and Gerald Posner, true believers in magic bullets and lapses in time, short on common sense, gunmanship, and trajectory angles, claim that a single shot wounded Kennedy and Connelly. Due to trajectory angles from the sixth floor--approximately 17 degrees, depending on the placement of the limo on the street below--a bullet entering and exiting Kennedy would strike Connelly in the lower left hip, if it hit him at all.



10. A tenth shot. The fatal shot to the brain of Kennedy--and a mortal blow to the republic. "There was no question about it; John F. Kennedy had been shot from the right front," said veteran sniper Roberts. "How in the world could anyone look at that film and say that the fatal head strike had come from the rear? The so-called experts . . . had obviously never served in combat, where witnessing high-velocity bullet strikes was commonplace."



So let us count the OBJECTS STRUCK. (1) street (2) curb (3) manhole cover (4) JFK's back (5) JFK's throat (6) windshield (7) trim strip (8) street sign (9) Connelly (10) JFK's head. Additionally, we heard reports of a shot striking a curb along Elm, which was hastily covered up. Could Oswald--according to the Lone Assassin Theory--have struck all of these objects in six seconds? Not unless he was armed with an automatic rifle and a dozen bullets.



And so the fallacy of three shots doing all this damage, may join all the other fallacies perpetrated by the sinister enemies of the republic. As Mencken said, "All government is evil, in that all government must necessarily make war upon liberty." Thus, while the gloves of government control the reins of propaganda, the evident truth will forever be denied, suppressed, or distorted by highly paid scribes like Posner, and highly placed government lackeys like Specter. Ten shots to the brain of the republic--Count 'em!

 

[ottawasub]

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And the problem I have with 9/11 is that. Where the heck was our defense? Who was sleeping at the wheel? While all of these planes... I mean, I've been to air traffic control when I was Governor, and you've got a dozen people there looking at these dials, watching every plane in their sector. They know where it's going and they know what direction it's supposed to be going

Now, how is it that these planes were able to be hijacked at half hour intervals, turned directly opposite the way they're supposed to be going and no bells went off, no emergency sirens went off, no fighter jets were scrambled? Just what the hell happened in that area of time?! And that's the part that troubles me about 9/11.

HOST LEN OSANIC: Yeah, I find it troubling that the Pentagon got hit at all.

GOV. VENTURA: Yeah, I mean, here's the Pentagon, the head of our military. How was this plane able to circle the city of Baltimore [sic. - actually Arlington] at least once, picking out a target, and then drive into it, and we didn't have -- nothing up in the air? There wasn't one scrambled fighter jet up there to defend in any way, shape, or form? Wow.

OSANIC: Or a missle battery to defend the Pentagon...

GOV VENTURA: Yeah. Anything, anything! And the thing that troubles me about the Bush Administration, nobody ever gets fired.

Ventura`s not saying there was a conspiracy, he`s saying that somebody f**ked up big time and should be held accountable. You can bet that if the Sept. 11th attacks happened while Clinton was president, every right-wing radio host would be saying the same thing instead of making excuses.

But because he was a professional wrestler, his opinions can`t possibly have any credibility. Had he been a second-rate actor in movies with a chimp, or some deadbeat who constantly got drunk in university, then he`d deserve the utmost respect.

 

[red]

Ventura`s not saying there was a conspiracy, he`s saying that somebody f**ked up big time and should be held accountable. You can bet that if the Sept. 11th attacks happened while Clinton was president, every right-wing radio host would be saying the same thing instead of making excuses.

But because he was a professional wrestler, his opinions can`t possibly have any credibility. Had he been a second-rate actor in movies with a chimp, or some deadbeat who constantly got drunk in university, then he`d deserve the utmost respect.

I agree - he appears to be saying someone in the military should have been held accountable.

 

[The Shake]

If you spend the time going through those sites in particular

http://www.illuminati-news.com/9-11.htm

You will see that they are well researched and credible websites.

Bwahahahahahaha.

Funniest post ever.

 

[Truncador]

The reason the Conspiracy is so easily able to deceive the brainwashed masses is that part of the brainwashing process involves altering, at the cognitive-psychological level, the basic mental categories through which people process sensory experience and make sense of the world. The myth of linear time and phenomenal singularity is one of the most important ways through which this is accomplished. Read more at the following link: http://www.timecube.com/. Obliterating three of the four basic dimensions of reality produces one-dimensional minds who can never see what's being done right in front of their faces, since they are unable to perceive the three-fourths of reality in which the Conspiracy does its business (causing 9-11, assassinating JFK, etc.).

It's almost certain that the occult mysteries of Freemasonry, the Illuminati, Qabalism, and Jesuitry involve restoring the initiate's dormant faculty of four-dimensional thought- and thus are dismised as mere mysticism and mumbo-jumbo by the brain-flattened one-dim's (as well as the so-called "intellectuals" and "scientists" on the Conspiracy's payroll who confirm and flatter them in their ignorance)...

 

[WoodPeckr]

Why are you giving Rove's secrets away?

Obliterating three of the four basic dimensions of reality produces one-dimensional minds who can never see what's being done right in front of their faces, since they are unable to perceive the three-fourths of reality in which the Conspiracy does its business (causing 9-11, assassinating JFK, etc.).

I've been telling my conservative friends at work for years that this is their main problem, that they suffer from a myopic one-dimensional mindset.
The world is more complex and involves more than one-dimensional perception. Unfortunately they all deny this and rejoice in their 'tunnel vision'......

 

[Truncador]

I've been telling my conservative friends at work for years that this is their main problem, that they suffer from a myopic one-dimensional mindset.

The opposition was at its finest back in the days when it used to rightly criticize conservatives for not being able to construe either problems or solutions in terms of any dimension other than force or (laissez-faire) economics. It's a shame the Left ditched sociology in favour of the sociology of fools, the conspiracy theory.

 

[Asterix]

The reason the Conspiracy is so easily able to deceive the brainwashed masses is that part of the brainwashing process involves altering, at the cognitive-psychological level, the basic mental categories through which people process sensory experience and make sense of the world. The myth of linear time and phenomenal singularity is one of the most important ways through which this is accomplished.

Truncy,
They ever give out an annual Dr. Strangelove Award on this board, you got my vote hands down.