gardening advice - herbicide

[JanHammer]

Hey everyone - I need your advice.

I've tried using Roundup and Weed-B-Gone on a big patch of clover in my backyard to almost no effect.

I've heard through the grapevine that finding a contact at a golf course, like a Superintendent, who can order some 'extra' herbicides for you - is the way to go. But I just think that they would not risk it. If it`s not allowed for public use, why would they do it.

I've had people tell me to go across the border to a Home Depot and buy the Weed-B-Gone. I`m going to the States soon - what do I buy.

Thanks!

 

[xenonian]

Same problem here. I don't mind the clover but I have dandelions and other weeds that started killing my grass. Not sure what would be the best commercially available herbicide, any specialists here on Terb?

 

[Butler1000]

I'm slowly removing all the grass. The front is done with a crushed brick in the main with two stripe of white quartz along the walkway. I installed several planter boxes which I fill to bursting with flowers.

The back starts later this year. Patio stones with narrow stripe of pea gravel in between them for drainage. I lay cheap loose bricks under it to block weeds and the drainage as well.

So far other than I few pesky weeds it's worked out. And no more lawn cutting!

 

[John Henry]

Hey everyone - I need your advice.

I've tried using Roundup and Weed-B-Gone on a big patch of clover in my backyard to almost no effect.

I've heard through the grapevine that finding a contact at a golf course, like a Superintendent, who can order some 'extra' herbicides for you - is the way to go. But I just think that they would not risk it. If it`s not allowed for public use, why would they do it.

I've had people tell me to go across the border to a Home Depot and buy the Weed-B-Gone. I`m going to the States soon - what do I buy.

Thanks!

Get the Weed be Gone in the US . Make sure that you buy the stuff that's concentrated . Not the one that's already mixed . It's also cheaper in the long run because you can make gallons of mixture with concentrate if you like and at as strong as you like . Weed be Gone works very well . In a couple of days you can see the plants going down . Weed be Gone doesn't harm the grass like Round-Up does . Round-Up takes a couple of weeks to work it's magic so you might think that the stuff is not working .

Check out True Value Hardware stores if Home Depot doesn't have any . That's were I bought my Weed be Gone in Concentrated form. I have seen Weed be Gone in concentrated form in Canada at Home Depot . It costs about $40 for a liter . Not sure how good it is compared to the one from the US . I will find out soon enough .

A farmer friend of mine got me Round-Up in concentrated form many years ago . This is not the crap that you can buy in the store . If I wish to kill every thing then I use that stuff .

Sometimes more then One application is needed to get rid of the clover .

Before the Ban on spraying lawns came into effect I bought a few bottles of Kill-X . That stuff works well on Clover and weeds but doesn't harm the grass .

 

[John Henry]

Same problem here. I don't mind the clover but I have dandelions and other weeds that started killing my grass. Not sure what would be the best commercially available herbicide, any specialists here on Terb?

Weed be Gone is good for dandelions and other weeds .

I only spot spray . I don't like doing the whole lawn because of the dogs . With dandelions I'll pull them out with a weed puller and spot spray the hole to make sure that I spray any left over roots . Seems to be working . I have a pretty good lawn this year . When I see the yellow dandelion flowers come out I'll cut the flower off . If you don't the those flowers turn into millions of seeds for next year .

 

[red]

Hey everyone - I need your advice.

I've tried using Roundup and Weed-B-Gone on a big patch of clover in my backyard to almost no effect.

I've heard through the grapevine that finding a contact at a golf course, like a Superintendent, who can order some 'extra' herbicides for you - is the way to go. But I just think that they would not risk it. If it`s not allowed for public use, why would they do it.

I've had people tell me to go across the border to a Home Depot and buy the Weed-B-Gone. I`m going to the States soon - what do I buy.

Thanks!

I didn't think either of those work on clover. Clover can be good for a lawn- it adds nitrogen to the lawn and of course brings good luck to the owner

 

[ReaganAdams]

Just a couple thoughts from a crunchy granola girl..

Ask yourself, are aesthetics worth the loss of use of my lawn (due to the possible chemical transfer to skin)? Especially if you have children or pets, you may want to reconsider using such harsh chemicals on your lawn.

Are you very "set" on having a grass lawn? Or are you open to having something less conventional?
If you try a native ground cover suited for the soil and sun conditions in your yard, you may have more success choking out the clover.

My 0.02

 

[JanHammer]

Ask yourself, are aesthetics worth the loss of use of my lawn (due to the possible chemical transfer to skin)? Especially if you have children or pets, you may want to reconsider using such harsh chemicals on your lawn. Are you very "set" on having a grass lawn? Or are you open to having something less conventional?
My 0.02

Sadly...yes.
We just love the look of a nice green patch of grass next to our perennial garden.
I do remove dandelions and other weeds with a hand tool - but this clover is tough and everywhere.
No kids or pets to worry about.

 

[John Henry]

I didn't think either of those work on clover. Clover can be good for a lawn- it adds nitrogen to the lawn and of course brings good luck to the owner

Round-Up kills everything . Weed be Gone does work on clover and is safe for the lawn . Kill-X works on weeds and clover but is safe for the lawn .

 

[red]

Isn't the clover green? It's clover and not crab grass?

 

[SkyRider]

1) It is legal to buy Round-up (just go to Canadian Tire) but it is illegal to use it in Toronto. Legal to buy, illegal to use.

2) I don't use chemicals on my front lawn and backyard because my Italian neighbors grow stuff that they eat. Any chemical on my side could/would seep over to their property and contaminate the stuff they grow and eat (might even kill them).

3) I can't "hard cover" my yards because Toronto wants "soft" space so rain water will seep into the soil and not overflow the city's drainage pipes.

 

[JanHammer]

Thanks everyone for the advice - sounds like "Weed be Gone Concentrate" is the way to go!

And the Golf Superintendent is another myth that bites the dust!

 

[Conil]

Thanks everyone for the advice - sounds like "Weed be Gone Concentrate" is the way to go!

And the Golf Superintendent is another myth that bites the dust!

But round up is gonna kill everything including the grass.....but the product that kills weed and not grass is something with 0.24.. I think killex but it was banned here.

 

[oldjones]

Dutch white clover makes a very lush looking lawn that needs less mowing than any all-grass monoculture. Before we surrendered to American lawn-gurus, and went for non-native Kentucky blue-grass mono-culture, the quality of a lawn mix was partly a factor of the healthy amount of clover it contained. Surely by now we all know mono-cultures are prone to mega disaster, do we not?

Dandelions are particularly easy to weed by hand, you cannot miss those yellow flowers.

If you haven't the time and attention to put into a lawn, why are you wasting time and money using dangerously persistent chemicals trying to have one?

 

[rysard]

Thanks everyone for the advice - sounds like "Weed be Gone Concentrate" is the way to go!!

i spoke with a commercial lawn care guy and saw the chems they were using - it was WeedBgone but at twice the concentration of the "recommended" one one the bottle of concentrate you just bought. I have been working on killing my clover for 3 years at this point. The only way to really effective way get rid of established clover in the lawn is hand pulling. Time your hand pulling to be after the lawn has received a good, long rainfall or water the lawn very deeply before trying to hand pull them. A very moist soil will make the hand pulling a lot easier.

I have also been overseeding, replacing my builder turf with fescues. These round leaf grasses have deep roots and are drought hardy as well as monocutural habit - kill off competing weeds, grasses. Slow growing, they need less or no mowing [if you don't mind a flowing carpet 4 to 6 inches high].

 

[SchlongConery]

I think the last case of Herbicide known was when WKRP was cancelled.

 

[SchlongConery]

Oh, and while googling an image for Herb Tarlick.... it seems in 2012 he got arresting doing a Pee Wee Herman imitation in an Adult movie theatre ...at 78 YEARS OLD!!!!

Still nice to see him wearing the same styles in his mug shot!

 

[John Henry]

Bought Weed be Gone in the US last year ( concentrate ) . Worked fine on dandelions this year. Maybe the stuff is not as potent in Canada as it is in the US . Just bought some today in the US . 1 liter bottle for $13.49 USD concentrate along with the paper work for a $4.00 rebate by buying 2 bottles . Home Depot Canada sells the same bottle for $39.99 ( concentrate ) . Go figure .

 

[JanHammer]

Anyone know what they're adding to the US stuff to make it so good? Or is it just a richer blend of the chemicals - a true concentrate?

 

[doggee_01]

Anyone know what they're adding to the US stuff to make it so good? Or is it just a richer blend of the chemicals - a true concentrate?

same stuff we had... before it got banned
works great