Four philosophical questions to make your brain hurt

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It's World Philosophy Day - an opportunity to contemplate one's very existence and whether computer monitors really exist, says David Bain.

People expect different things of philosophers. Some expect us to be sages. When these people meet me, my heart sinks, since I know theirs is about to. Others expect us to have a steady supply of aphorisms up our sleeves, such as that love is never having to say you're sorry (something no partner of mine has ever been persuaded of).

They too are disappointed when they meet me, especially when I say that the glass so beloved by optimists and pessimists is both half full and half empty.

Others expect of us not sagacity, but madness, or at least outlandish beliefs. And here, it must be said, some philosophers really have delivered. Thales believed that everything is made of water, for example, while Pythagoras avoided eating beans because he believed they have souls.
Eccentric hair: The mark of a modern-day French philosopher

As Princeton philosopher David Lewis once said: "When philosophers follow where argument leads, too often they are led to doctrines indistinguishable from sheer lunacy."

But beware. this is the same David Lewis who believed that, for each of the ways things might have been but are not, there is a world at which they are that way, eg a world at which your counterpart is spending today with the world's greatest sex god or goddess.

And, reassuring though it can be to think that at least that counterpart is having fun, even those impressed with Lewis's towering intellect have often found these other worlds of his hard to swallow.

Not all philosophers pin such striking colours to the mast, but there is a good reason why people associate the subject with surprising views. Philosophy involves standing back and thinking - intensely and rigorously - about aspects of our lives that are at once ordinary and fundamental.

And when the surface is scratched, what you find below is extraordinary - or, rather, extraordinarily difficult to make good, clear sense of. Lying in wait are arguments that lead to, if not sheer lunacy, then bullets we're loathe to bite.

So, with World Philosophy Day upon us, here are some pesky arguments to apply your minds to:


1. SHOULD WE KILL HEALTHY PEOPLE FOR THEIR ORGANS?
Suppose Bill is a healthy man without family or loved ones. Would it be ok painlessly to kill him if his organs would save five people, one of whom needs a heart, another a kidney, and so on? If not, why not?

Consider another case: you and six others are kidnapped, and the kidnapper somehow persuades you that if you shoot dead one of the other hostages, he will set the remaining five free, whereas if you do not, he will shoot all six. (Either way, he'll release you.)

If in this case you should kill one to save five, why not in the previous, organs case? If in this case too you have qualms, consider yet another: you're in the cab of a runaway tram and see five people tied to the track ahead. You have the option of sending the tram on to the track forking off to the left, on which only one person is tied. Surely you should send the tram left, killing one to save five.

But then why not kill Bill?


2. ARE YOU THE SAME PERSON WHO STARTED READING THIS ARTICLE?
Consider a photo of someone you think is you eight years ago. What makes that person you? You might say he she was composed of the same cells as you now. But most of your cells are replaced every seven years. You might instead say you're an organism, a particular human being, and that organisms can survive cell replacement - this oak being the same tree as the sapling I planted last year.

But are you really an entire human being? If surgeons swapped George Bush's brain for yours, surely the Bush look-alike, recovering from the operation in the White House, would be you. Hence it is tempting to say that you are a human brain, not a human being.

But why the brain and not the spleen? Presumably because the brain supports your mental states, eg your hopes, fears, beliefs, values, and memories. But then it looks like it's actually those mental states that count, not the brain supporting them. So the view is that even if the surgeons didn't implant your brain in Bush's skull, but merely scanned it, wiped it, and then imprinted its states on to Bush's pre-wiped brain, the Bush look-alike recovering in the White House would again be you.

But the view faces a problem: what if surgeons imprinted your mental states on two pre-wiped brains: George Bush's and Gordon Brown's? Would you be in the White House or in Downing Street? There's nothing on which to base a sensible choice. Yet one person cannot be in two places at once.

In the end, then, no attempt to make sense of your continued existence over time works. You are not the person who started reading this article.


3. IS THAT REALLY A COMPUTER SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU?
What reason do you have to believe there's a computer screen in front of you? Presumably that you see it, or seem to. But our senses occasionally mislead us. A straight stick half-submerged in water sometimes look bent; two equally long lines sometimes look different lengths.
Are things always as they seem? The Muller-Lyer illusion indicates not

But this, you might reply, doesn't show that the senses cannot provide good reasons for beliefs about the world. By analogy, even an imperfect barometer can give you good reason to believe it's about to rain.

Before relying on the barometer, after all, you might independently check it by going outside to see whether it tends to rain when the barometer indicates that it will. You establish that the barometer is right 99% of the time. After that, surely, it's readings can be good reasons to believe it will rain.

Perhaps so, but the analogy fails. For you cannot independently check your senses. You cannot jump outside of the experiences they provide to check they're generally reliable. So your senses give you no reason at all to believe that there is a computer screen in front of you."


4. DID YOU REALLY CHOOSE TO READ THIS ARTICLE?
Suppose that Fred existed shortly after the Big Bang. He had unlimited intelligence and memory, and knew all the scientific laws governing the universe and all the properties of every particle that then existed. Thus equipped, billions of years ago, he could have worked out that, eventually, planet Earth would come to exist, that you would too, and that right now you would be reading this article.

After all, even back then he could have worked out all the facts about the location and state of every particle that now exists.

And once those facts are fixed, so is the fact that you are now reading this article. No one's denying you chose to read this. But your choice had causes (certain events in your brain, for example), which in turn had causes, and so on right back to the Big Bang. So your reading this was predictable by Fred long before you existed. Once you came along, it was already far too late for you to do anything about it.

Now, of course, Fred didn't really exist, so he didn't really predict your every move. But the point is: he could have. You might object that modern physics tells us that there is a certain amount of fundamental randomness in the universe, and that this would have upset Fred's predictions. But is this reassuring? Notice that, in ordinary life, it is precisely when people act unpredictably that we sometimes question whether they have acted freely and responsibly. So freewill begins to look incompatible both with causal determination and with randomness. None of us, then, ever do anything freely and responsibly."


IN CONCLUSION
Let me be clear: the point is absolutely not that you or I must bite these bullets. Some philosophers have a taste for bullets; but few would accept all the conclusions above and many would accept none. But the point, when you reject a conclusion, is to diagnose where the argument for it goes wrong.

Doing this in philosophy goes hand-in-hand with the constructive side of our subject, with providing sane, rigorous, and illuminating accounts of central aspects of our existence: freewill, morality, justice, beauty, consciousness, knowledge, truth, meaning, and so on.

Rarely does this allow us to put everything back where we found it. There are some surprises, some bullets that have to be bitten; sometimes it's a matter simply of deciding which. But even when our commonsense conceptions survive more or less intact, understanding is deepened. As TS Eliot once wrote:

"…the end of our exploring,

Will be to arrive where we started,

And know the place for the first time."

David Bain is a lecturer in philosophy at the University of Glasgow
 

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I am going to answer these questions in four separate posts. All have very simple answers, and there is no reason ones brain should hurt trying to answer them. Anyone who has even the most basic knowledge of philosophy should be able to answer these.
 

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The answers are...

No, No, No and No. ;)

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1. SHOULD WE KILL HEALTHY PEOPLE FOR THEIR ORGANS?
Suppose Bill is a healthy man without family or loved ones. Would it be ok painlessly to kill him if his organs would save five people, one of whom needs a heart, another a kidney, and so on? If not, why not?
This is a question of ethics.

1: the discipline dealing with what is good and bad and with moral duty and obligation
2:
a: a set of moral principles : a theory or system of moral values
b: the principles of conduct governing an individual or a group
c: a guiding philosophy
d: a consciousness of moral importance


No, it is not right to kill Bill. Every person has rights as an individual, but there is no such concept as collective rights, since a collective is made of a group of individuals. To apply a 'right' to a group, you are denying a right to an individual who is not in that group. All rights must be applicable to all people or they cease to be rights at all. The USA defined these rights basically as, "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness". The first being the right to ones own life, not the life of another person. The second is the right to personal freedom at ones own expense, not at the expense of another person. If one individual breaches the moral code of cohersing a person into doing something against his own free will, he is in violation of taking another persons rights. Society has deemed there are laws against this type of thing. Fraud, theft, murder, rape...

Bottom line is that a person is only responsible for themself, and cannot force themself on another either individually, or collectively. Bill has the right to his life, and it is nobody's choice but Bill's as to what he does with it.

One more point about Bill. What if he has the cure to cancer?

Consider another case: you and six others are kidnapped, and the kidnapper somehow persuades you that if you shoot dead one of the other hostages, he will set the remaining five free, whereas if you do not, he will shoot all six. (Either way, he'll release you.)
It does not matter what you do. Whether you decide to pull the trigger or not, the kidnapper is the one who committed the murder(s) either way. As selfish as this sounds, it is not your problem. Personally, I would walk away, as that takes away the kidnappers choice. It is not my choice as to who lives or dies, and I will have no part of it.

If in this case you should kill one to save five, why not in the previous, organs case?
In either case, the question is asking if it is ok to violate a persons right to life. In either case it is not.


If in this case too you have qualms, consider yet another: you're in the cab of a runaway tram and see five people tied to the track ahead. You have the option of sending the tram on to the track forking off to the left, on which only one person is tied. Surely you should send the tram left, killing one to save five.
Either option is acceptable as it is not you who tied the people to the tracks, and it is not you who is responsible for the deaths either way. The person already made the decision by placing the tram on course towards the five people. He is a moral coward.

But then why not kill Bill?
as previously discussed.
 
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2. ARE YOU THE SAME PERSON WHO STARTED READING THIS ARTICLE?
Consider a photo of someone you think is you eight years ago. What makes that person you? You might say he she was composed of the same cells as you now. But most of your cells are replaced every seven years. You might instead say you're an organism, a particular human being, and that organisms can survive cell replacement - this oak being the same tree as the sapling I planted last year.

But are you really an entire human being? If surgeons swapped George Bush's brain for yours, surely the Bush look-alike, recovering from the operation in the White House, would be you. Hence it is tempting to say that you are a human brain, not a human being.

But why the brain and not the spleen? Presumably because the brain supports your mental states, eg your hopes, fears, beliefs, values, and memories. But then it looks like it's actually those mental states that count, not the brain supporting them. So the view is that even if the surgeons didn't implant your brain in Bush's skull, but merely scanned it, wiped it, and then imprinted its states on to Bush's pre-wiped brain, the Bush look-alike recovering in the White House would again be you.

But the view faces a problem: what if surgeons imprinted your mental states on two pre-wiped brains: George Bush's and Gordon Brown's? Would you be in the White House or in Downing Street? There's nothing on which to base a sensible choice. Yet one person cannot be in two places at once.

In the end, then, no attempt to make sense of your continued existence over time works. You are not the person who started reading this article.
This is a question of epistemology

:the study or a theory of the nature and grounds of knowledge especially with reference to its limits and validity

What makes a person an individual is their consiousness. Their, memories, beliefs and their values. If one was to take a persons brain, and effectively transplant it into another body (personality intact), the location where the brain is would be the person.

If it were transplanted into two hosts, there would be two of the same people (for a short period of time). Because epistemology is based on the principles that all concepts are open ended, (a baby learns what a chair is, then learns different types of chairs, then learns the construction of chairs, then historical relevance of chairs, etc.), two different brains separated would learn different things and have different experiences. All babies brains are born empty, and a person becomes the sum of their experiences and how they process them. The same can be said about identical twins. They started off identical, but their lives (though similar) have given them different personalities.

Did they both start off as you? Yes. Are they still both you? Yes in a manner. Though different. Congratulations, you have been successfully cloned!

Yes I am the same person physically who has started reading this article, but my mentality is slightly different as I have learned and grown while reading and replying. (as per the open ended concept idea).
 

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I'm with a 1 on this. This is not really difficult to comprehend. Since these are rather open ended it is all about the definition you choose to answer. I will provide my simple answers such as the great detective Perry and choose not to elaborate.

My answers are: No. Yes. No. and Yes.


Anyone watch Criminal Minds last night? How many existentialists does it take to change a light bulb?
 

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hairyfucker said:
How many existentialists does it take to change a light bulb?
None.

One to go to the store and buy a new bulb. One to take it out of the package. One to hold the ladder. One to check that the old bulb is dead. One to climb the ladder. Another to unscrew the old bulb. One to screw in the new one. One to climb down the ladder. And one to say that none of this happened.

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Perry Mason said:
None.

One to go to the store and buy a new bulb. One to take it out of the package. One to hold the ladder. One to check that the old bulb is dead. One to climb the ladder. Another to unscrew the old bulb. One to screw in the new one. One to climb down the ladder. And one to say that none of this happened.

Perry
Acording to one thought, the existentialist will sit in the dark waiting for the bulb to relight.
 

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Thevagabond said:
And yet, how can a person be a person without a body (or at least the brain plus muscles to communicate). Are you saying that brain is the person? Perhaps just the patterns contained in the brain? Can information exists without matter?
Stephen Hawking in essence is a person without a body. The few body functions he has left support his active mind. I am not saying the brain is the person, but the consiousness, the ability to decide, and to reason, the ability to create, and decide between right and wrong. This is the essence of the person and what distinguishes us between other animals. This is what makes us individuals.

Thevagabond said:
Over analyzing what a person is doomed to fail simply because our poorly evolved mammalian brain and our faculty of language doesn't lend itself to getting pass our everyday understanding of objects and beings.
I disagree. Our brains hold concepts, and we refer to these concepts by using words. Therefore a word represents a concept. These words are put together to create language (the verbal and written expression of concepts). As we learn throughout our lives, our knowledge of these concepts expands and we can express them more clearly. An example: A baby might say hungry, at two he might say he wants corn, at ten he might say that he would like corn on the cob, and at twenty he might say that he would like Peaches and Cream corn on the cob with butter and pepper. Children still have concepts, but they might not be able to express them correctly as their knowledge of language has not been developed at that point in their lives.

Also keep in mind that concepts are always being created. A fax machine, an electric toothbrush and the internet are fairly new concepts that we have grasped, but words to and incorporated in our vocabulary. Our mamallian brains are the best that there are out there and very capable of interpreting concepts, however quite often we choose not to. It has been said (my info might be wrong so don't hold it as gospel, feel free to research it to get the exact numbers) that a child will learn more in the first 10 years of his life than he will from that point on until his death as a senior. Children can ask upwards of 200 questions a day, depending on their curiosity level. It is our choice that we decide to stop absorbing information at the rate of a child, or maybe society and the education has stifled our curiosity and thirst for knowledge.
 
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Thevagabond said:
By this argument, you're saying that we are under no moral obligation to help those in dire needs. If a person is drowning because someone pushed him in the water, then you can just watch him drown instead of intervening?
No we are not. I know this sounds harsh, and many of us would choose to help someone in need, myself included, but it is not immoral if we choose not to. I can give a few examples to prove my point.

-A good friend of mine falls down and is bleeding badly, I know he is HIV positive, is it immoral for me to put myself in danger?
-There is a terrible car accident, I run over to assist the badly hurt driver and I find he is the person who sexually assaulted my sister in highschool.

Both are not far out cases that could never happen.

The 'more' correct answer would be that one 'should' help another person if it is safe to do so, but it is not a moral imperative.
 

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3. IS THAT REALLY A COMPUTER SCREEN IN FRONT OF YOU?
What reason do you have to believe there's a computer screen in front of you? Presumably that you see it, or seem to. But our senses occasionally mislead us. A straight stick half-submerged in water sometimes look bent; two equally long lines sometimes look different lengths.
Are things always as they seem? The Muller-Lyer illusion indicates not.

But this, you might reply, doesn't show that the senses cannot provide good reasons for beliefs about the world. By analogy, even an imperfect barometer can give you good reason to believe it's about to rain.

Before relying on the barometer, after all, you might independently check it by going outside to see whether it tends to rain when the barometer indicates that it will. You establish that the barometer is right 99% of the time. After that, surely, it's readings can be good reasons to believe it will rain.

Perhaps so, but the analogy fails. For you cannot independently check your senses. You cannot jump outside of the experiences they provide to check they're generally reliable. So your senses give you no reason at all to believe that there is a computer screen in front of you."
This is a question based in metaphysics.

Metaphysics is the branch of philosophy investigating principles of reality transcending those of any particular science. Cosmology and ontology are traditional branches of metaphysics. It is concerned with explaining the ultimate nature of being and the world.

Axiom

In traditional logic, an axiom or postulate is a proposition that is not proved or demonstrated but considered to be either self-evident, or subject to necessary decision. Therefore, its truth is taken for granted, and serves as a starting point for deducing and inferring other (theory dependent) truths.


Ok, now that we have that out of the way...

There are a couple of axioms one can either choose to believe or not.
a) existence exists
b) we are conscious

If one chooses to not believe either, there can be no argument and the debate stops there. Actually, every philosophical debate stops at that point if one does not agree with the above statements.

Existence must be primary, it must be the first thing. Without the universe and all that is contained in it, nothing else is possible. The debate regarding God can be proved this way, (not to open a can of worms here, and it is something I do not wish to get into a heated debate about either). God is a consciousness, who created the heavens and earth. Therefore he preceeded existence. But how can that be? There must be something to be conscious of. A consciousness without anything to be conscious of is a contradiction which cannot exist in reality. Something cannot be red and green at the same time, you can't have your cake and eat it too, and something cannot be hot and cold at the same time. If contradictions cannot exist in reality, then existence must be primary, and we view existence through our consciousness.

Our senses provide us with information about the world around us. They are not perfect, but they are the only things we have. If we are unsure of what is around us, we use scientific study, (again based on facts and reality), to give us the answers, and test our hypothesis.

In the philosophical world, this is a modern debate which is exactly the same as "Plato's Theory of Forms". Where he debated:

The forms that we see, according to Plato, are not real, but literally mimic the real Forms. In the Allegory of the cave expressed in Republic, the things we ordinarily perceive in the world are characterized as shadows of the real things, which we do not perceive directly. That which the observer understands when he views the mimics are the archetypes of the many types and properties (that is, of universals) of things we see all around us.


Again, the theory of forms was disproved by using the argument that I started with. Although mine is very basic and in point form.
 

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4. DID YOU REALLY CHOOSE TO READ THIS ARTICLE?
Suppose that Fred existed shortly after the Big Bang. He had unlimited intelligence and memory, and knew all the scientific laws governing the universe and all the properties of every particle that then existed. Thus equipped, billions of years ago, he could have worked out that, eventually, planet Earth would come to exist, that you would too, and that right now you would be reading this article.

After all, even back then he could have worked out all the facts about the location and state of every particle that now exists.

And once those facts are fixed, so is the fact that you are now reading this article. No one's denying you chose to read this. But your choice had causes (certain events in your brain, for example), which in turn had causes, and so on right back to the Big Bang. So your reading this was predictable by Fred long before you existed. Once you came along, it was already far too late for you to do anything about it.

Now, of course, Fred didn't really exist, so he didn't really predict your every move. But the point is: he could have. You might object that modern physics tells us that there is a certain amount of fundamental randomness in the universe, and that this would have upset Fred's predictions. But is this reassuring? Notice that, in ordinary life, it is precisely when people act unpredictably that we sometimes question whether they have acted freely and responsibly. So freewill begins to look incompatible both with causal determination and with randomness. None of us, then, ever do anything freely and responsibly."
This is the biggest pile of horse shit I have ever read and is not even worthy of debate, but I will anyways because I am feeling feisty at the moment.

This argument does not fall under any branch of philosophy, the author is just trying to fuck with the reader using bad logic.

a) The argument is not based in reality because there is no Fred
b) No person can know everything
c) There is randomness (a whole branch of statistics is based on this)
d) There is free will

So yes, you are reading this by choice.
 

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Thevagabond said:
If you think about it, (a) doesn't really make much sense. First of all, it's a self referencing statement, which is no different than saying "A is A". It doesn't really buy as anything. Furthermore, what do it mean for something to exist? Does existence require sensory perception? Do concepts exists? What does it mean for something to have exists in the past but not anymore? Can something that exists no longer exist?

You see my point. We simply can't ask such question as "what does meaning mean?". Any attempt to answer such question leads to bamboozling, because our conscious is not privy that faculty of cognition. Any answer is at best a poor confabulation of the mind. It's hidden well below our consciousness. In fact much of what we do when we talk is hidden from our consciousness. We have no idea how words come together in such fluid manner, and furthermore we have no clue how our vocal cord is modulated in such rapid and complicated motion.
I know exactly where you are coming from, and it has indeed been a debate for thousands of years. Your statement 'A is A', or existence exists, is the exact meaning of what an axiom is, and why it has to be taken as self evident. One can neither prove, nor disprove it. I will give you credit, each one of the questions you have asked is bar better than anything the author did, and requires a much better knowledge of philosophy.

If you would like, or if you are interested, I can direct you to a few good books that attempt to answer those questions far more eloquently than I can. I more answered the questions for my own fun and enjoyment.
 

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Thevagabond said:
The trouble with your definition is how do you objectively determine whether helping someone is "safe". Many of our society's collective values include such things as self-sacrifice, altruism, and valour. Morality is not only about a set of values that help you determine whether something is right or wrong in an abstract sense, but the actions that follow from such a judgment.
True again, my definition was certainly not very well thought out was it. I should have done a proof reading before I posted it. I may be mistaken, but it appears that the question you are asking is are collective values the correct set of values. No they are not. If we go back to the thought that a collective is nothing more than a group of individuals, collectivism asks us to give up the self for the group. The group is a non-entity, comprised of only individuals, each with their own rights. Throughout history man had been told that he has to live for one of three things. God (religion), the King (feudalism), or society (socialism). That was never said is that man has a right to live for himself. That he is the master of his own domain, and that it is his decisions and actions that should guide him, not external forces. With that in mind, a person can decide (by using reason and the knowledge available to him) whether he decides to help or not. The question is not really should he help, but rather, does he have to help. The answer is, no he does not have to help. Most people like being altruistic sometimes, it gives them a good feeling helping someone out. But they do it by choice, not because they are forced to.
 
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