Former Abercrombie & Fitch CEO Mike Jeffries arrested on sex trafficking charges

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Took excessive pay for a losing company and a failing brand. Exploited young men for profit and gratification. Morally bankrupt piece of human trash. Too bad the law took so long to catch up to him. He's 80 now and doesn't care.
 

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Is this the same CEO that would hire minorities because it didn't "align" with his brand?
 

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I don’t get the joy some of you guys get when these actions are brought.

The arguments the U.S. federal government is making here are the same ones it makes to dismantle escort agencies in which the ladies crossed state lines, and the arguments it makes against massage parlors where the workers come from abroad and/or travel from state to state.

The argument is that the ladies are misled into believing they will just be providing companionship to guys with no sex, and/or doing non sexual massages. But once they join the group, they must do sexual things to survive. Most of us call bullshit from the beginning on such arguments. Ladies join an escort service knowing damn well it is sex for money, and the same is true for erotic massage places.

Every once in a while, the U.S. Federal government gets laughed at. It argued once that Hooters was discriminating against men by not hiring them as servers. Legally, it had a point since Hooters was not an “adult” sex-oriented establishment like a strip joint, that can so discriminate. After being laughed at, the federal government finally settled by Hooters agreeing to hire more male “chefs”.

When you walked by an Abercrombie store and saw the hunky shirtless guy, your gaydar didn’t go off?

So they had gay executives who sought after gay guys for certain roles and had elaborate gay parties.

If you aren’t gay and/or aren’t a young gay hunk, look for a job elsewhere. There are plenty of similar jobs. Just like if you are a guy who wants to be a server, and Hooters won’t hire you, get a server job at Denny’s. You will have fun with the drunk packs of girls that go there at 2 am on Friday and Saturday.

Someone please tell me what the federal government’s place is here. It was a bunch of gay guys doing gay things. Leave everyone the fuck alone, please. We all find our place without the U.S. Federal government needing to “help”.
 
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K Douglas

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Jan 5, 2005
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Room 112
I don’t get the joy some of you guys get when these actions are brought.

The arguments the U.S. federal government is making here are the same ones it makes to dismantle escort agencies in which the ladies crossed state lines, and the arguments it makes against massage parlors where the workers come from abroad and/or travel from state to state.

The argument is that the ladies are misled into believing they will just be providing companionship to guys with no sex, and/or doing non sexual massages. But once they join the group, they must do sexual things to survive. Most of us call bullshit from the beginning on such arguments. Ladies join an escort service knowing damn well it is sex for money, and the same is true for erotic massage places.

Every once in a while, the U.S. Federal government gets laughed at. It argued once that Hooters was discriminating against men by not hiring them as servers. Legally, it had a point since Hooters was not an “adult” sex-oriented establishment like a strip joint, that can so discriminate. After being laughed at, the federal government finally settled by Hooters agreeing to hire more male “chefs”.

When you walked by an Abercrombie store and saw the hunky shirtless guy, your gaydar didn’t go off?

So they had gay executives who sought after gay guys for certain roles and had elaborate gay parties.

If you aren’t gay and/or aren’t a young gay hunk, look for a job elsewhere. There are plenty of similar jobs. Just like if you are a guy who wants to be a server, and Hooters won’t hire you, get a server job at Denny’s. You will have fun with the drunk packs of girls that go there at 2 am on Friday and Saturday.

Someone please tell me what the federal government’s place is here. It was a bunch of gay guys doing gay things. Leave everyone the fuck alone, please. We all find our place without the U.S. Federal government needing to “help”.
You're comparing apples to oranges here.
Women who join escort agencies know they are providing sexual services.
Guys who were working at Abercrombie and Fitch, which I'm sure were not all gay guys btw, were not agreeing to sex when they attended promotional events and/or parties.
Its also morally repugnant, or at the least highly unethical, for a CEO of a large company who holds significant power and trust, to be dicking his male models. If the Board condoned such an act, by looking the other way, shame on them.
 

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You're comparing apples to oranges here.
Women who join escort agencies know they are providing sexual services.
Guys who were working at Abercrombie and Fitch, which I'm sure were not all gay guys btw, were not agreeing to sex when they attended promotional events and/or parties.
Its also morally repugnant, or at the least highly unethical, for a CEO of a large company who holds significant power and trust, to be dicking his male models. If the Board condoned such an act, by looking the other way, shame on them.
I know no such thing about those joining escort agencies.

When I see an escort agency, the agency usually just describes time and companionship.

Seeking Arrangement is very anti-sex. The ladies are supposed to be dined and taking shopping all the time by older suitors. If they discover a discussion of sex, people get banned. Surely there is no sex occuring there, or discussion of sex outside those who meet on that platform?

I can certainly see the U.S. prosecutors taking precedent from these types of cases and applying them elsewhere.

And we would all like to think Canada would never follow the U.S., but in the charging of one wealthy Canadian executive who was accused of meeting ladies through means similar to Epstein, the government made a big deal out of the fact that he had a permanent suite at a Montreal hotel and young ladies came to see him. One of the housekeepers supposedly asked him about it and he said they were nieces. She later remarked to him that he sure had a lot of nieces.

Of course that has nothing to do with Johns. None of us ever receive the sex worker at our hotel room. Perish the thought.

The bottom line is that the general public would view most Johns the same as Mike Jeffries, especially after reading the reviews. They would just think of one John known as The Terb Guy. We say, hey, the women are well-compensated, which they are. We are great guys, which we are.

But hell, maybe the hottest gay guys at Abercrombie were well compensated for fucking at the elaborate gay orgies, too. Just like the Hooters servers with the best attitudes and best breasts get the best tips. These ain’t companies curing cancer. They are selling niche clothes and serving chicken wings.

I just don’t see the government‘s place here. I see a darker picture of morality on the right and the irritating tendency of the left to always find some unfairness and power imbalance that supposedly the courts can fix. And the always darkness of the law profession where they can get a third of the bounty by raiding a rich guy who had an active sex life with consenting partners, until the government and lawyers said: You are a victim entitled to Money Damages.
 
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