Forecasting: When the Liberals ban opposition parties/suspend elections

[Truncador]

Face it. If they get a majority, they'll do it. The Party has already openly stated that nobody who thinks Canadians have a right to make political decisions the Liberals disagree with should be allowed to become Prime Minister, that Canadians are a bunch of drunken oafs who can't even be trusted to take care of their own kids, and have vowed to do what even the crypto-Fascist Trudeau didn't dare- disarm the people. In this election, we're not being asked to appoint the Libs as our government, but rather to acknowledge the inherent right of Canada's self-described "natural governing party" to rule as an oligarchy. If the people do acknowledge this claim to supremacy, they'll soon find the acknowledgement difficult to take back.

Come to think of it, they might not even wait that long. In any coronation ceremony, the witnesses are always asked, "Do you accept so-and-so as your King"- but aren't allowed to answer, "no". Bear in mind that the Libs just appointed a new Governor-General, who could theoretically simply refuse to swear in a Conservative or other government should the Libs lose the next election.

So, what exactly will follow when the de facto single-party system becomes de jure ? Will the international community, the United States in particular, recognize the oligarchy and carry on business as usual, or can we expect to see international censure or sanctions ? The NDP, as one of the parties that will be outlawed, has lots of friends in high places of international human-rights and UN-type groups that exercise considerable influence on governments in Europe, and might thus succeed in generating opprobrium in exactly the circles Canadian governments are normally desperate to impress. This leaves the USA. Will the State Dept. really care, so long as goods and people flow between the two countries as usual ?

 

[WoodPeckr]

This leaves the USA. Will the State Dept. really care, so long as goods and people flow between the two countries as usual ?

BINGO !!!
You catch on quick!
That's all that matters!

Just taking care of business!!!

 

[maxweber]

Projection, big time!

Face it. If they get a majority, they'll do it.

Why should they bother -- when, without ballot stuffing, voter intimidation, or Supreme Court jiggery-pokery, they can win fair and square? No, this is just a combination of paranoia with the disspiriting tendency of the right wing to project their own deficiencies onto their opponents. Just now, there's a helluva greater danger of a right wing coup in North America than a left wing one.

MW

 

[The Brus]

When you think about it, the Prime Minister holds all the cards in Canada. He alone decides what legislation gets to the Commons floor. He appoints judges to the Supreme Court. He decides who becomes a Senator. Unless there is a non-confidence vote, he decides when there will be an election. He appoints the head of the RCMP. He decides which of his buddies get the myriad of patronage jobs that continue to sap the money out of Canadians' pockets. And there is not a thing anyone can do about it. So, for all those that think we have a democratic government, remember that whatever the PM says, goes and, as spoken by the useless egotistic Brian Mulroney, "you, my friends can go to hell."

Let us not elect or re-elect another bad Quebec lawyer like Trudeau, Mulroney, Chretien or Martin.

 

[nervous]

Canada Remains a colony.....

Let us not elect or re-elect another bad Quebec lawyer like Trudeau, Mulroney, Chretien or Martin.

...only now Quebec is the 'Mother Country' .

The irony is that the 'other nine' provinces prefer to be 'ruled by a foreign dictator'.

It will be interesting when Quebec does separate and the PM is actually a foreigner. I wonder who will negotiate on Canada's behalf then.

Inquiring minds......

 

[Truncador]

Just now, there's a helluva greater danger of a right wing coup in North America than a left wing one.

MW

The Liberals aren't a left-wing party anymore, though. The historic role of the party of the Left in Canada has now been outsourced to the NDP (representing the goody-two-shoes, save-the-whales, intellectual side of Leftism) and the Conservatives (representing its populist, individualistic, and reformist tendency). It should not pass without note that the Liberals today accuse the NDP of being naive and unfit to administer the economy while simultaneously accusing the Conservatives of plotting in secret to bring down the State and introduce anarchy and/or hand the national sovereignty over to a foreign power; these are the standing accusations the party of the Right in any country always makes against the party of the Left. The Liberals are now a full-blown Right-wing party, albeit in the old European, as opposed to the modern American, sense of the term: collectivist, but not socialist; capitalist, but not individualist; authoritarian, paternalistic, overbearing, autocratic, and above all, corrupt. Good historical reference points would be Francisco Franco in Spain or Engelbert Dollfuss in Austria.

 

[Truncador]

When you think about it, the Prime Minister holds all the cards in Canada. He alone decides what legislation gets to the Commons floor. He appoints judges to the Supreme Court. He decides who becomes a Senator. Unless there is a non-confidence vote, he decides when there will be an election. He appoints the head of the RCMP. He decides which of his buddies get the myriad of patronage jobs that continue to sap the money out of Canadians' pockets. And there is not a thing anyone can do about it. So, for all those that think we have a democratic government, remember that whatever the PM says, goes and, as spoken by the useless egotistic Brian Mulroney, "you, my friends can go to hell."

I might be paranoid. I sure hope I am. But before long, I fear, what you just described will be known by Canadians as "the good old days"

 

[Dancerfan]

Lets all just hope that Canadians and especially people here in Toronto give the Liberals what they deserve on election day,which is to THROW THEM OUT!

 

[maxweber]

!!!

The Liberals aren't a left-wing party anymore, though. The historic role of the party of the Left in Canada has now been outsourced to the NDP (representing the goody-two-shoes, save-the-whales, intellectual side of Leftism) and the Conservatives (representing its populist, individualistic, and reformist tendency). [...]The Liberals are now a full-blown Right-wing party, albeit in the old European, as opposed to the modern American, sense of the term: collectivist, but not socialist; capitalist, but not individualist; authoritarian, paternalistic, overbearing, autocratic, and above all, corrupt. Good historical reference points would be Francisco Franco in Spain or Engelbert Dollfuss in Austria.

The Franco comparison's a bit extreme--but Dollfuss (and Schuschnigg) are uncomfortably, even painfully apt. I quite appreciate this keen analysis! But, again, you don't need to pull a coup when people are going along with your program more or less willingly. That's true for the Martin Liberals--and, by and large, for the Bush Republicans. We'll see what they come up with for 2008--his brother, I'm guessing--but the chances are slim that they'll resort to an outright putsch. You don't need to steal what you already own.

MW

 

[Cinema Face]

the Liberals need to get rid of guns first. That is why the had the registry and soon the ban. Once guns are gone from the street, then they can really dictate their will to the people. Imagine a state where the police and military have guns but the people don't such as Cuba or N. Korea.

 

[maxweber]

priorities

the Liberals need to get rid of guns first. That is why the had the registry and soon the ban. Once guns are gone from the street, then they can really dictate their will to the people. Imagine a state where the police and military have guns but the people don't such as Cuba or N. Korea.

From the substance of your posting, such as it is, I hope their budget give-aways inclkude more money for treating paranoia.

MW

 

[wollensak]

The Liberals aren't a left-wing party anymore, though. The historic role of the party of the Left in Canada has now been outsourced to the NDP (representing the goody-two-shoes, save-the-whales, intellectual side of Leftism) and the Conservatives (representing its populist, individualistic, and reformist tendency).

Conservatives: "populist, individualistic and reformist"? What a pile of crap. Real conservative agenda? Take any government service that provides a positive cash flow and sell it off to their cronies. Case in point: Highway 407,
attempted sale of LCBO here in Ontario. Then leave office with a big deficit after having de-balled Toronto. How about Tories in Manitoba - one of the most corrupt governments in Canadian history. Harper is one of those divide and conquer sycophants of GWB - it's old news. Martin is an ass - banning target shooters to get illegal guns off the street - yet another BS idea. A minority government is best for all. Harper, of course, would have to join forces with the Bloc. The only real answer is true proportional representation -an NDP platform plank. Too intellectual for the rest of us. Pity.

 

[Judas H]

Case in point: Highway 407,

Yes, this was a stupid move by the government only because they lost money. However if it they were making a profit it wouldn't have been a bad move.

attempted sale of LCBO here in Ontario.

This should be sold to a public company Why is the Government even involved in the sale of Liquor? They profit from it, they profit from the licensing, and they profit from the taxes. This is almost a racket we would be better off with the Mafia. I don't think the government should be so involved.