Florida 'justice' is openly racist.

[Boss Nass]

Compare this to the Zimmerman/Martin case. White Zimmerman, who killed a black kid after stalking him, wasn't even booked by the Sanford Pig Department, but this black woman, who only fire a warning shot while defending herself and her children, might spend 20 years in jail.

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-05-03/story/judge-denies-jacksonville-woman-new-trial-despite-stand-your-ground

 

[Aardvark154]

Isn't it wonderful you live in Ontario.

As to the defendant she has at least four rounds of appeals possible. Further of course the jury, amazingly enough, could have gotten it right.

 

[WoodPeckr]

Florida 'justice' is openly racist

Florida is a RED GOPer State, where this sort of 'justice' is expected, encouraged and praised!....:eyebrows:

 

[Asterix]

Isn't it wonderful you live in Ontario.

As to the defendant she has at least four rounds of appeals possible. Further of course the jury, amazingly enough, could have gotten it right.

Spoken with all the empathy I would expect of a conservative lawyer.

 

[msog87]

Compare this to the Zimmerman/Martin case. White Zimmerman, who killed a black kid after stalking him, wasn't even booked by the Sanford Pig Department, but this black woman, who only fire a warning shot while defending herself and her children, might spend 20 years in jail.

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-05-03/story/judge-denies-jacksonville-woman-new-trial-despite-stand-your-ground

why bc they are openly railroading an hispanic man? these two cases are completely different, and btw the victim in the case you mentioned is also black. george zimmerman was attacked, there are pics of his bloodied head on the internet if you search for them.

 

[Scarey]

Everytiime I hear stories like this , this skit comes to mind

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XoMVtqYdsA

 

[alexmst]

Senterfitt’s ruling was based on Alexander’s decision to go back into the home armed with a gun.

“This is inconsistent with a person in genuine fear of his or her life,” Senterfitt wrote in her ruling

'Stand Your Ground' doesn't mean go and get a gun and then come back into the house for a confrontation. If you have gone already, then stay gone.

The basic intention of the 'stand your ground law' is that if you are walking down the street and a guy pulls a knife on you, you have the choice of responding with deadly force rather than running away. You don't have to kill the guy with the knife. You could, but you could instead tell him to get lost and let HIM run away, or you could tell him to put his hands up until the police arrive, or you could shoot him in the a non lethal way to incapacitate him rather than killing him if you are a good shot.

The law is not designed to let two unarmed ex's verbally assaulting each other in a private home take a time out while one goes looking for a gun, then returns to the house to take a shot at the other. Once you walk away you are no longer 'standing your ground'. If you come back you might be the one seen as the aggressor.

 

[cunning linguist]

This has nothing to do with race, you don't fire warning shots.

 

[Possum Trot]

Unless you tell me it was an all white jury with a white judge and DA I'm not sure how you get this verdict to be racially prejudiced. The decision not to arrest Zimmerman probably was , but it was made initially by a local sheriff wasn't it?

This was called a warning shot only because she missed. Since I didn't hear the actual case it's impossible to form an opinion. 12 minutes of deliberation sounds as if it was pretty clear-cut unless it was a 100% red neck, cracker jury.

 

[Boss Nass]

why bc they are openly railroading an hispanic man? these two cases are completely different, and btw the victim in the case you mentioned is also black. george zimmerman was attacked, there are pics of his bloodied head on the internet if you search for them.

Railroading my fat ass. And the video from when he went to the police station immediately after don't show any injuries. Zimmerman is a racist who was purposely hunting the kid, just waiting for an opportunity to kill him. He is heard, quite clearly, on the 911 recording saying "Fucking coons, they always get away".

 

[Aardvark154]

Railroading my fat ass. And the video from when he went to the police station immediately after don't show any injuries. Zimmerman is a racist who was purposely hunting the kid, just waiting for an opportunity to kill him. He is heard, quite clearly, on the 911 recording saying "Fucking coons, they always get away".

So having seen only television snippets, you know the above.

Of course the only problems are: Zimmerman, had already had his wounds tended by the time he arrived at the Police Station, that the video is basically a security tape designed to show if people are in the garage, not to provide close-ups of their wounds. That you have no idea nor do I as to Mr. Zimmerman's motivation. Lots of professional sound annalists say that you can't tell a damn thing from the 911 about what was said.

 

[Aardvark154]

Senterfitt’s ruling was based on Alexander’s decision to go back into the home armed with a gun.

“This is inconsistent with a person in genuine fear of his or her life,” Senterfitt wrote in her ruling

'Stand Your Ground' doesn't mean go and get a gun and then come back into the house for a confrontation. If you have gone already, then stay gone.

The basic intention of the 'stand your ground law' is that if you are walking down the street and a guy pulls a knife on you, you have the choice of responding with deadly force rather than running away. You don't have to kill the guy with the knife. You could, but you could instead tell him to get lost and let HIM run away, or you could tell him to put his hands up until the police arrive, or you could shoot him in the a non lethal way to incapacitate him rather than killing him if you are a good shot.

The law is not designed to let two unarmed ex's verbally assaulting each other in a private home take a time out while one goes looking for a gun, then returns to the house to take a shot at the other. Once you walk away you are no longer 'standing your ground'. If you come back you might be the one seen as the aggressor.

Bold this entire post.

 

[danmand]

Spoken with all the empathy I would expect of a conservative lawyer.

Conservative?? Try racist!

 

[msog87]

Railroading my fat ass. And the video from when he went to the police station immediately after don't show any injuries. Zimmerman is a racist who was purposely hunting the kid, just waiting for an opportunity to kill him. He is heard, quite clearly, on the 911 recording saying "Fucking coons, they always get away".

everything you said is complete bullshit. do you honestly believed he called the cops, then proceeded to go and murder an innocent person for no reason just bc he supposedly hates black people? Yes he followed trayvon which he shouldnt have done, but trayvon martin should have acted like a normal law biding citizen and talked to zimmerman instead of attacking him. the media spinned the whole thing, first of all the pics they show of him are trayvon at 12-13. trayvon was 6'2, lean and muscular, tatted up, with gold teeth. going by all the circumstantial evidence of being suspended from school for drugs, his image, his twitter account....this guy was no angel. NBC admitted to doctoring the tape to make zimmerman look racist...he never said "coons". when the police showed up to the scene, zimmermans back was wet, and the back of his head was bleeding, he also had a broken nose according to medical reports. take a look at these pics:

http://www.google.ca/search?tbm=isc...0.4.4.0.244.2082.6j7j4.17.0...0.0.iFZMut8MHsc

the only reason why zimmerman has been charged is bc the black community will riot plain and simple. remember the LA riots in 1992? the same shit will happen its all political zimmerman is getting fucked

 

[Aardvark154]

Conservative?? Try racist!

Once again Danmand goes over the line.

 

[WoodPeckr]

Once again Danmand goes over the line.

Hardly....hey if the shoe fits....

Heck Laddie a fine fellow Con cohort, would take that as a compliment....:eyebrows:

 

[Asterix]

Once again Danmand goes over the line.

Well, yes, but for some reason you bring that out of him.

 

[cunning linguist]

Senterfitt’s ruling was based on Alexander’s decision to go back into the home armed with a gun.

“This is inconsistent with a person in genuine fear of his or her life,” Senterfitt wrote in her ruling

'Stand Your Ground' doesn't mean go and get a gun and then come back into the house for a confrontation. If you have gone already, then stay gone.

The basic intention of the 'stand your ground law' is that if you are walking down the street and a guy pulls a knife on you, you have the choice of responding with deadly force rather than running away. You don't have to kill the guy with the knife. You could, but you could instead tell him to get lost and let HIM run away, or you could tell him to put his hands up until the police arrive, or you could shoot him in the a non lethal way to incapacitate him rather than killing him if you are a good shot.

The law is not designed to let two unarmed ex's verbally assaulting each other in a private home take a time out while one goes looking for a gun, then returns to the house to take a shot at the other. Once you walk away you are no longer 'standing your ground'. If you come back you might be the one seen as the aggressor.

Excellent post!

To add to that, firing warning shots is not a justifiable use of deadly force. If a verbal warning and the presence of a gun doesn't serve as enough of a deterrent, then the next step is to fire aimed shots at the centre of mass. There is no middle ground and anything less is just plain irresponsible use of a firearm. That said, I'm sympathetic towards the victim, she just went about it the wrong way.

 

[rld]

Well, yes, but for some reason you bring that out of him.

When the going gets tough Dan and certain other people who simply assume anything American is bad can't keep up. They stoop to unjustified name calling because they can't come up with a real argument.

Even if they were right and the decision in this case was unquestionably racist (which it isn't), it still would prove their point that the entire justice system in Florida is racist.

 

[John Galt 2012]

This has nothing to do with race, you don't fire warning shots.

Of course not, it gives away your position and wastes rounds you may need at a critical time.

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