If the voters didn't want the election, why did they give Duggo a majority?
What happens when your heroes like Josh Matlow run for a seat on anything bigger than city council. They get laughed at and pissed on by the voters, right?
Scarborough ignored in transit plans, residents complain
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What happens when your heroes like Josh Matlow run for a seat on anything bigger than city council. They get laughed at and pissed on by the voters, right?
Again with that Trumpinian nth level, stable genius-like, leaps of non-sensical illogic of yours.
1) 55% of the electorate didn't vote.
Hence, thus, ergo, ipso facto, employing ur above quoted junk, garbage logic, that means:
2) 55% of the electorate, not only didn't vote, they also didn't want an election,
3) which means the electorate not only didn't give Squeaky Clean a majority but in fact when combined with the Liberal, NDP and Green votes ur hero, the mayor of Toronto, Doug Squeaky Clean Fraud:
4) received, wait, brace yourself
5) LESS THAN 20% OF THE ELECTORAL VOTE
6) which in anything but ur Trumpinian, nth-level, stable genius, nonsensical illogic, is not only NOT a majority, but a testament that the electorate overwhelmingly DID NOT WANT an early election.
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If they didn't want an election, why didn't they vote for the NDP, Annie?
Finch LRT could see signal priority, increased speeds, as criticism continues to roll in
City councillors said Wednesday they’re hoping to unlock higher speeds and signal priority for the Finch Light-Rail Transit line after its opening day saw mixed reaction.
Coun. Jamaal Myers (Scarborough North), who is also the Toronto Transit Commission's chair, brought a motion to urgently speed up the new LRT routes at Wednesday’s board meeting. That motion passed.
“The simple truth is this: rapid transit must be rapid,” he said.
Line 6 of the TTC, which includes 18 stops, connects Finch West station to Humber Polytechnic’s north campus, according to the TTC’s website. Construction on the line began in 2019, and it was originally supposed to be open in 2021.
Instead, its grand opening happened Sunday with free rides for the crowds of excited transit users and local residents. But what was set to be a celebratory day was quickly tarnished with frustration as commuters realized the LRT line included fewer stops than the previous bus route.
A CBC Toronto reporter also rode the entire 10.3-kilometre line from east to west Monday, finding it took roughly 55 minutes to complete. The reporter’s eastbound return trip was closer to 47 minutes.
Bus 'zooming right past' LRT: advocate
Andrew Pulsifer, executive director of transit advocacy group TTCriders, said the Line 6 opening was “a debacle.”
“This is ultimately an own goal, folks,” he said. “We’ve been sounding the alarm for lack of signal priority on both the Finch and Eglinton LRT for a long time.”
Pulsifer said he saw a bus “zooming right past” and the LRT getting stuck behind left-turning vehicles.
“Reality sunk in,” he said. “The LRT is open and it is as slow, or slower, than we predicted.”
Wednesday’s motion asked the TTC and Metrolinx, which built the LRT line, to work together to institute transit signal priority on the route, which would keep lights green to allow the LRT to move through intersections without frequent stops.
Metrolinx points finger at city
In a statement to CBC Toronto Wednesday, Metrolinx said it’s the city that is not using the full extent of transit signal priority.
“If they wish to change that, they will find a wide-open door at Metrolinx to update the software accordingly,” the statement said.
As for increasing the speed, the city's transit expansion executive director Derrick Toigo said it’s not that simple.
“It doesn’t work that way. It’s very complicated,” he said Wednesday.
City staff added that instituting signal priority would change the speed of service. But for that to happen, Mosaic — the collection of private companies contracted by Metrolinx to maintain the line — would need to be involved.
“That would cause more maintenance on the vehicles,” Toigo said. “It’s not that they have an ability to say no to transit signal priority, but they do need to be informed.”
'Not a success story,' councillor says
Coun. Josh Matlow (Toronto-St. Paul’s) and Coun. Alejandra Bravo (Davenport) said the conversations between Metrolinx, TTC, Mosaic and the city need to be shared with the public.
“We need to find solutions and we need to be accountable and transparent in real time,” Bravo said at a news conference with riders and transit advocates Wednesday.
Matlow, who was also at the conference, said there’s no question that the speed is an “abysmal failure” and that Torontonians want and deserve answers.
“There is no way that one can rationalize spending billions of dollars, years of delays, businesses and communities impacted, to only have rapid transit that goes slower than the buses it’s meant to replace,” he said. “That is not a success story.”
Matlow said some of the issues have been perpetrated by a “dysfunctional relationship” between Metrolinx, the city and the TTC, which makes him feel “not confident.”
“The TTC is often told, rather than consulting with the Metrolinx organization, that it is accountable only to premier [Doug] Ford and the transportation minister, it seems, rather than us and the people of Toronto,” he said. “The behaviour of Metrolinx has been bullyish.”
Toronto Mayor Olivia Chow is set to bring a motion to speed up LRTs and streetcars to city council next week.
City councillors said Wednesday they’re hoping to unlock higher speeds and signal priority for the Finch Light-Rail Transit line after its opening day saw mixed reaction.
Coun. Jamaal Myers (Scarborough North), who is also the Toronto Transit Commission's chair, brought a motion to urgently speed up the new LRT routes at Wednesday’s board meeting. That motion passed.
“The simple truth is this: rapid transit must be rapid,” he said.
Line 6 of the TTC, which includes 18 stops, connects Finch West station to Humber Polytechnic’s north campus, according to the TTC’s website. Construction on the line began in 2019, and it was originally supposed to be open in 2021.
Instead, its grand opening happened Sunday with free rides for the crowds of excited transit users and local residents. But what was set to be a celebratory day was quickly tarnished with frustration as commuters realized the LRT line included fewer stops than the previous bus route.
A CBC Toronto reporter also rode the entire 10.3-kilometre line from east to west Monday, finding it took roughly 55 minutes to complete. The reporter’s eastbound return trip was closer to 47 minutes.
Bus 'zooming right past' LRT: advocate
Andrew Pulsifer, executive director of transit advocacy group TTCriders, said the Line 6 opening was “a debacle.”
“This is ultimately an own goal, folks,” he said. “We’ve been sounding the alarm for lack of signal priority on both the Finch and Eglinton LRT for a long time.”
Pulsifer said he saw a bus “zooming right past” and the LRT getting stuck behind left-turning vehicles.
“Reality sunk in,” he said. “The LRT is open and it is as slow, or slower, than we predicted.”
Wednesday’s motion asked the TTC and Metrolinx, which built the LRT line, to work together to institute transit signal priority on the route, which would keep lights green to allow the LRT to move through intersections without frequent stops.
Metrolinx points finger at city
In a statement to CBC Toronto Wednesday, Metrolinx said it’s the city that is not using the full extent of transit signal priority.
“If they wish to change that, they will find a wide-open door at Metrolinx to update the software accordingly,” the statement said.
As for increasing the speed, the city's transit expansion executive director Derrick Toigo said it’s not that simple.
“It doesn’t work that way. It’s very complicated,” he said Wednesday.
City staff added that instituting signal priority would change the speed of service. But for that to happen, Mosaic — the collection of private companies contracted by Metrolinx to maintain the line — would need to be involved.
“That would cause more maintenance on the vehicles,” Toigo said. “It’s not that they have an ability to say no to transit signal priority, but they do need to be informed.”
'Not a success story,' councillor says
Coun. Josh Matlow (Toronto-St. Paul’s) and Coun. Alejandra Bravo (Davenport) said the conversations between Metrolinx, TTC, Mosaic and the city need to be shared with the public.
“We need to find solutions and we need to be accountable and transparent in real time,” Bravo said at a news conference with riders and transit advocates Wednesday.
Matlow, who was also at the conference, said there’s no question that the speed is an “abysmal failure” and that Torontonians want and deserve answers.
“There is no way that one can rationalize spending billions of dollars, years of delays, businesses and communities impacted, to only have rapid transit that goes slower than the buses it’s meant to replace,” he said. “That is not a success story.”
Matlow said some of the issues have been perpetrated by a “dysfunctional relationship” between Metrolinx, the city and the TTC, which makes him feel “not confident.”
“The TTC is often told, rather than consulting with the Metrolinx organization, that it is accountable only to premier [Doug] Ford and the transportation minister, it seems, rather than us and the people of Toronto,” he said. “The behaviour of Metrolinx has been bullyish.”
Toronto Mayor Olivia Chow is set to bring a motion to speed up LRTs and streetcars to city council next week.
A lot of people knew he was going to win so didn't bother voting...Next.
DoFo spent $100 million of Ontario money pushing out that message in ads.
Another reason why LRTs are a bad idea in a city like Toronto.
Once the city can take it over fully from metrolinx they can reset signal priority.
It's not the signals that are the problem. They're are above ground which means they deal with the same winter weather conditions as motorists meaning delays and even shutdowns. Just look at Ottawa. Also Toronto is such a congested city that it will be a problem if car accidents happen in the middle of intersections.
There are two issues.
1) They've been ordered to run the streetcars at slow speed.
2) The signalling (TSP) gives cars priority on left hand turns, the city can order this changed and the programming is there to be turned on.
notes from the board meeting
TTC Board Debates Finch L(R)T
At the TTC Board meeting on December 10, 2025, there was an extensive discussion on the poor showing of Line 6 Finch since it opened a few days ago. Predictably, this was a mix of “give us ti…
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Is anyone old enough to remember the opening ceremony of the Skydome? It failed. People got wet. Everyone was up in arms... yet here we are a zillion years later with a landmark that works. Kinks in the system. TTC didn't want to open until Feb. Metrolinx pushed. Bad PR... whatever. It'll be fine and no-one will remember opening day hiccups. I'm more pissed about Eglinton since it's much closer to me and the biggest fucking cock-up. Over budget... years delayed. And because it's close it just sits and mocks everyone!
Calgary, Edmonton, Kitchener-Waterloo.
Boston, Buffalo, Denver, Minneapolis, Newark, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh.
Plus dozens upon dozens of cold weather cities, just like Toronto, in Europe and Asia have run LRTs for ages.
LRTs, bike lanes, ASE, 4 plexes, neighborhood retail, are just fine and dandy everywhere else except in Toronto.
The signals are Doug Squeaky Clean Fraud's signals.
Accidents happen everywhere. All around the world.
Congestion is a motor vehicle cause problem that Doug Squeaky Clean Fraud only exponentially proliferates.
There are a few more Doug/Metrolinx/Mosaic issues fluffed off onto the TTC.There are two issues.
1) They've been ordered to run the streetcars at slow speed.
2) The signalling (TSP) gives cars priority on left hand turns, the city can order this changed and the programming is there to be turned on.
notes from the board meeting
TTC Board Debates Finch L(R)T
At the TTC Board meeting on December 10, 2025, there was an extensive discussion on the poor showing of Line 6 Finch since it opened a few days ago. Predictably, this was a mix of “give us ti…
1) The time interval between opening doors and closing the doors at stations/stops is 55 seconds. Way too long. 20 - 30 seconds max is sufficient. Doug/Metrolinx/Mosaic caused problem.
2) Slow travel speed along curves. Again, a Doug/Metrolinx/Mosaic caused problem.
3) in addition to signal priority for cars is the fact that right now, as is, the LRT stop at a red light, waits, waits for cars to make left turns, then go given the green "go" enters the intersection and immediately stops again at the station platform on the other side of the intersection. Again a Doug/Metrolinx/Mosaic cause problem.
Actually you can argue that those that did not vote are voting indirectly for the status quo, which was Ford. Also the #'s on your pie chart are wrong (quelle surprise). It should readSuch a democratic majority for DoFo.
18% of voters backed him.
Did not vote 55.1%
PC 19.3%
LIB 13.5%
NDP 8.3%
Other 3.8%
