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cliff1

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Just looking for some help on file sharing P2P…

Currently I am using LimeWire for movies. Unfortunately I am finding there are not as many movies as before and they are taking longer to d/l

Does anyone know of any free file sharing programs out there

Thanks in advance.
 
FWIW both Sympatico and Rogers are using traffic-shaping—i.e Limiting traffic generated by certain applications incl. P2P—to postpone expensive facility upgrades. BitTorrent is also affected, but that's where most of the movies went, I believe.
 
Oldjones is right.

"Traffic-shaping" is the term the companies use.
"Throttling" is the term customers use.

My internet reseller is teksavvy.com and boy are they mad about the throttling because it's a breach of contract by Bell. They've joined other resellers to take Bell to task at the CRTC, but by the time that bloated bureaucracy gets moving, the needed updates will be in place, and the resellers' customers will be gone, so Bell wins again by being a bully.
Rogers wins by following whatever Bell does. Ah, the joys of duopoly.

In the meantime, if you try downloading outside the throttling periods (typically 4:30pm to 2 a.m, when the teenagers are at it) you may get better results. But i think bit Torrent stuff is always throttled.

Maybe someone with more telecom/internet knowledge could wade in here with more details?
 
Bit Torrents, all the way. Especially when your ISP isn't on the Bell or Rogers system, lke Teksavvy and the others...

You need a client like uTorrent, and you need to configure it (port forwarding, etc). Then you go to torrentz.com, and fint the torrent (tinly little files) that tell the client how to download the file(s) in question.
 
Hangman said:
Bit Torrents, all the way. Especially when your ISP isn't on the Bell or Rogers system, lke Teksavvy and the others...

You need a client like uTorrent, and you need to configure it (port forwarding, etc). Then you go to torrentz.com, and fint the torrent (tinly little files) that tell the client how to download the file(s) in question.
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Tell me which ISPs are not on the Bell or Rogers systems...
 
preciate it said:
Tell me which ISPs are not on the Bell or Rogers systems...
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You will not be able to find an ISP which is not on Bell, (even Rogers is to some extent), as all other ISPs are simply wholesalers of Bell or Rogers. The whole throttling issue is currently being examined by the CRTC but I expect by the time it is resolved it will not matter as the Draconian Copyright put forth by the Harper Government will be in effect by then and at that point P2P will be an invitation to being charged.

That said Bell, I am not sure about Rogers, limits P2P traffic during what it has defined as 'peak traffic time' (some time in the late afternoon until 2:00 AM) at which point it goes as fast as it can. The actual speed degradation is dependent on a number of factors so in my experience I would suggest that the cap maybe adds 20% download time, YMMV.

One thing to keep in mind though is that all the torrent systems are CPU hogs. You may only be getting 100 kbps download but with its constant polling it is anything but a subtle background process. I have found a combination of Usenet and P2P and the standard File Sharing program, (Limewire for audio and eMule for video). Eventually when the legislation comes in everything except Usenet will expose to potential legal issues.

Personally I have not seen a lot of value in chasing down movies anymore. They have done a very good job of keeping the Screeners and R5's out of the loop and watching a crappy Telesync just to say I saw the film is a waste of time. Other than that downloading a copy of a DVD or a rip that was just released seems a bit crazy given how cheap it is to rent or even buy one.

Anyway... links you will need:

http://www.utorrent.com/
http://www.mininova.org/
http://tokyotosho.com/
http://www.torrentscan.com/
 
Thanks Tarkus!

Tarkus said:
You will not be able to find an ISP which is not on Bell, (even Rogers is to some extent), as all other ISPs are simply wholesalers of Bell or Rogers. The whole throttling issue is currently being examined by the CRTC but I expect by the time it is resolved it will not matter as the Draconian Copyright put forth by the Harper Government will be in effect by then and at that point P2P will be an invitation to being charged.

That said Bell, I am not sure about Rogers, limits P2P traffic during what it has defined as 'peak traffic time' (some time in the late afternoon until 2:00 AM) at which point it goes as fast as it can. The actual speed degradation is dependent on a number of factors so in my experience I would suggest that the cap maybe adds 20% download time, YMMV.

One thing to keep in mind though is that all the torrent systems are CPU hogs. You may only be getting 100 kbps download but with its constant polling it is anything but a subtle background process. I have found a combination of Usenet and P2P and the standard File Sharing program, (Limewire for audio and eMule for video). Eventually when the legislation comes in everything except Usenet will expose to potential legal issues.

Personally I have not seen a lot of value in chasing down movies anymore. They have done a very good job of keeping the Screeners and R5's out of the loop and watching a crappy Telesync just to say I saw the film is a waste of time. Other than that downloading a copy of a DVD or a rip that was just released seems a bit crazy given how cheap it is to rent or even buy one.

Anyway... links you will need:

http://www.utorrent.com/
http://www.mininova.org/
http://tokyotosho.com/
http://www.torrentscan.com/
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Thanks Tarkus!
 
Thanks... But I must be an idiot... I just want to d/l porn to watch...I opened up utorrent but I can't figure out how to search then d/l.

So basically am I stuck with Limewire?
 
cliff1 said:
Thanks... But I must be an idiot... I just want to d/l porn to watch...I opened up utorrent but I can't figure out how to search then d/l.

So basically am I stuck with Limewire?
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Cliff, look for content on a site like isohunt or piratebay, click on it to download and utorrent will allow you to reel it in.
 
cliff1 said:
Thanks... But I must be an idiot... I just want to d/l porn to watch...I opened up utorrent but I can't figure out how to search then d/l.
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With sites like:

www.ovguide.com/adult.html

Why even bother burning anymore....;)
 
Torrents...second try! Last email timed out.

cliff1 said:
Thanks... But I must be an idiot... I just want to d/l porn to watch...I opened up utorrent but I can't figure out how to search then d/l.

So basically am I stuck with Limewire?
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Actually you can use Limewire as a torrent downloader if you want. Limewire usually associates itself with Torrents unless you change that setting.

Anyway if you want to use uTorrents you need to get a torrent file. You get that from any number of places, you can get it from Usenet, (which I will discuss later), using a web search but this is a bad choice as many of those searches result will lead to trojans or file share sites, and torrent search engines.

The ones I use are:

http://www.mininova.org/
http://tokyotosho.com/
http://www.torrentscan.com/

Go to any of those sites and type in the name of the film you want. You might get lucky if you type in a subject as well. Select the torrent you want and click download and then double click on it and your Torrent program will launch and you indicate Yes to download off it goes.

In my situation I use Torrents/eMule/Limewire for about 1% of my downloading. The other 99% comes from Usenet.

Usenet, (NNTP), started in 1977 and is essentially like the BBS of the early 70's - 80's before the Internet wiped them out. It is a site/servers where people can upload/download files. Up until about the year 2002 nearly every ISP out there had some sort of NNTP service. As of last week the remaining Usenet services were shut down by most of the major ISPs as they had been dropped by Bell/Telus and Rogers/Cable ISPs etc., here years ago. However in the late 90's a number of companies realized that there was a market for high quality Usenet services and thus the Pay sites were born.

Usenet has approximately 2 Terrabytes of uploads every day, (yes that every DAY), and these uploads include movies, porn, games, images, music, etc. Anything you can find on P2P. If you are into vanilla XXX porn the movie.erotica group alone probably has more movies than you could possibly download each day.

The negatives of Usenet? Essentially it has become a pay service whereas it was originally free. Monthly costs vary by company and run from about $9 to $30 a month. Retention, (how long files remain available), varies by company but can go as high as nearly 6 months plus whereas a file on a P2P network is there as long as someone with the file is online.

The positives of Usenet? Because it has become a pay service it is essentially an FTP service. As I indicated there is more material there than you could possibly ever download. Since it is on a server you can download as fast as your connection will allow whereas P2P users typically limit their uploads. And of course because you can run SSL on some services your downloads are secure from prying eyes from either your ISP or Copyright police.

GL
 
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