(Fake) Rumour

[Travelman123]

The rumour is that Canadian Electrical power providers to the US are going to interrupt supply for several hours for needed maintenance to ensure ongoing network viability.

The interruption to occur Sunday February 9, 2025 at 2300 UTC (1800 EST)


Enjoy T123

 

[seanzo]

Even if were true, we should not do it...yet. Infrastructure needs to be built to send energy all across Canada first. Once that excess energy that's being sold to the US, often at a loss to boot, is being used in other provinces and territories. Then you cut the power to the US

 

[Travelman123]

Even if were true, we should not do it...yet. Infrastructure needs to be built to send energy all across Canada first. Once that excess energy that's being sold to the US, often at a loss to boot, is being used in other provinces and territories. Then you cut the power to the US

Tell Quebec. Newfoundland and Labrador and Nova Scotia, Ontario among other provinces.
We ARE doing it now. The Joke is that we could caused outrages during the SuperBowl.

I do not think we should nickel and dime the tariffs.
Slam the border shut. It makes the Tariffs moot.

In any case the US should stop shipping guns - weapons to Canada.
It is a much bigger problem than a couple of kilos of fentanyl.

T123

 

[Ponderling]

Technical issues prevent this from being easily done.

A very interconnected grid, which North East Canada and USA has, needs stability with regard to load and supply

Or else protective relaying senses an abnormality, trips off, and that is when the whole thing starts to quickly collapse.

Although there are more stringent rules in place after large power outage from 2004? to make collapse less likely to hapen as easily.

 

[xmontrealer]

Tell Quebec. Newfoundland and Labrador and Nova Scotia, Ontario among other provinces.
We ARE doing it now. The Joke is that we could caused outrages during the SuperBowl.

I do not think we should nickel and dime the tariffs.
Slam the border shut. It makes the Tariffs moot.

In any case the US should stop shipping guns - weapons to Canada.
It is a much bigger problem than a couple of kilos of fentanyl.

T123

You can't just slam the borders shut. There are too many things we need that only the U.S. can supply.

For one, prescription drugs made in the U.S. for which there are no Canadian or other country produced generics.

As an example, my daughter depends on some U.S. prescription drugs for depression and ADHD. It would be very problematic if they weren't available.

I imagine there are life-saving Rx drugs we import from the U.S. that are not available from any other source.

And that is only one miniscule example of why a closed border would be a huge problem, much more costly overall to Canadians than the proposed tariffs.

 

[bazokajoe]

You can't just slam the borders shut. There are too many things we need that only the U.S. can supply.

For one, prescription drugs made in the U.S. for which there are no Canadian or other country produced generics.

As an example, my daughter depends on some U.S. prescription drugs for depression and ADHD. It would be very problematic if they weren't available.

I imagine there are life-saving Rx drugs we import from the U.S. that are not available from any other source.

And that is only one miniscule example of why a closed border would be a huge problem, much more costly overall to Canadians than the proposed tariffs.

I think he meant slam the border shut for immigration.

 

[xmontrealer]

I think he meant slam the border shut for immigration.

Maybe, but why would that make tariffs moot?

It isn't just immigration that Trump is complaining about...

Perhaps Travelman123 can clarify...

 

[seanzo]

Tell Quebec. Newfoundland and Labrador and Nova Scotia, Ontario among other provinces.
We ARE doing it now. The Joke is that we could caused outrages during the SuperBowl.

I do not think we should nickel and dime the tariffs.
Slam the border shut. It makes the Tariffs moot.

In any case the US should stop shipping guns - weapons to Canada.
It is a much bigger problem than a couple of kilos of fentanyl.

T123

That's the type of soy soaked hysterics I expect from Canadians and our leaders. Just look at what the Mexican President got out of him. They send a few thousand troops to the border to help shut it down from their side and the Americans, for their part, help stop the guns and ammo pouring into Mexico that fuel cartel violence. The Mexicans get a month's reprieve, presumably to show they are playing ball, after which Trump drops it and moves onto whatever shiny objects grasps his attention next.

I'm all in favour of not having any trade relations with the US, they are constantly fucking around with the deals they sign but slamming the door shut now is a fucking idiotic ideal considering we will be slamming the door shut on our collective dick. Doing it during the Superbowl is hands down the dumbest thing I've heard in years.

We need so many things done like infrastructure, tax reform, military reform, political and legal reform....I can go on but the fact is we are in no position to do anything other than acquiesce to whatever Trump want so if you want somebody to blame and you've voted Liberal in the last decade then you need only gaze into a mirror. It's like that Radiohead song. You did it to yourself and that's why it really hurts

 

[Ceiling Cat]

Even if were true, we should not do it...yet. Infrastructure needs to be built to send energy all across Canada first. Once that excess energy that's being sold to the US, often at a loss to boot, is being used in other provinces and territories. Then you cut the power to the US

I am more familiar with the Quebec power grid than the Ontario power grid, having experienced multiple ice storms while living in Quebec. All power-generating stations undergo regular maintenance. Excess electricity sold to the United States is not sold at a loss, at least not in the case of Quebec.

New York State, through Con Edison, generates its own electricity using oil, nuclear, wind, and hydroelectric power. When additional supply is needed, they purchase surplus electricity from Ontario and Quebec. Under normal conditions, without extreme weather requiring large amounts of extra power, Con Edison is generally able to meet its own demand.

During the day, most of the electricity consumed in New York is generated in-state, with a portion imported from Quebec. However, at night, when demand is lower, both utilities reduce generation to a minimum, and Quebec actually buys excess electricity from Con Edison. While this might seem counterintuitive, it is a strategic economic decision. Hydro-Québec can sell electricity to New York at a high price during peak daytime hours and repurchase it at night for less than a quarter of that price. By reducing water flow through hydroelectric dams at night, Hydro-Québec allows reservoirs to refill, ensuring greater generating capacity for selling electricity at premium rates during the day.

I am sure the electricity would not be shut off to the states for political reasons.


Con Edison sources electricity from various sources within New York State, including solar, wind, and generating stations. The electricity is then transmitted over high-tension power lines to Con Edison's local electrical switch yards. From there, the voltage is stepped down for distribution and then stepped up again for transmission over wires. Finally, the voltage is adjusted for the final delivery to homes and businesses. Con Edison's energy portfolio includes traditional fossil fuels, nuclear energy, and renewable energy sources.