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Hippopotamus

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That amounts to substituting one compulsive behaviour for another. Excessive gaming can also ruin your life.
U are 100% correct. The logic behind that theory is that if a compulsive behaviour takes the form of an obsession, then it’s substitute needs to be something which engages the mind to a similar magnitude, either in opposite direction ( temporary refraining or celibacy- which won’t work) or in a different direction (eg. “engaging type” video games- which often work but then become addictive over time). Others like cycling, swimming, gym’ing MAY also work but they engage body more than the mind(they DO engage, but lesser than those video Games, that’s why you may often love cycling, swimming, gym’ing but we don’t often get addicted to these)
But it is far easier to substitute Gaming addiction than this hobby. The nature of guilt and how it affects day2day life is “different” in addiction@hobby versus videoGames. So it is more of a step-wise methodology which might help our fellow TERB member to get out of it, one step at a time. And once he substitutes it successfully, then we all can suggest him on how to get rid of VideoGames addiction in his thread that he might post in the future…
 

Hippopotamus

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Sport/training is a good substitute.

What cured me from seeing many sp is deception and boredom. I came to a point were the girls did not made me cum for 3 sessions in a row. So I was able to cut to about 1 girl per 2/3 months now and it's much better. I cum like a teenager within 10 minutes but I don't really care 😂
Good to hear that. Glad that it worked out for you.
Well, Your last sentence adds to the wonder as if u have discovered the fountain of youth, again..😊
 
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Hippopotamus

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I agree. When you suffer addiction, any one. If you do not "fix" the root, you will just switch from one to the other...
Right. That’s the ultimate goal. To fix the root cause of the problem/addiction. But this approach takes time and needs patience, determination, persistence, courage, will, dedication etc. etc. A more practical, short term approach is what I had suggested earlier.

Just for the sake of an example please think of Drug De-addiction.

Ultimate goal is the same as what You have rightly mentioned, but temporarily they are put on substitutes which have similar effect but less withdrawal symptoms, so that they can tide over that time and prepare themselves for fix..
 
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Hippopotamus

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I slowed way down due to the pandemic and have been slow to restart. Financially it’s been been a blessing. Nowadays I’ve been so busy with work that seeing SW has become a low priority. I come here for the laffs and I will partake if someone really catches my eye but it’s been a small fraction of my former activity and I like it that way. Anything that is allowed to dominate a disproportionate part of your life is unhealthy. Spring is here, start doing something else for yourself. Pick up a nice bike and cycle, go for long walks, volunteer somewhere. Anything.
Seems like Pandemic worked wonders for you, it slowed down ur hobby and proved to be a blessing financially….
a new perspective to one positive aspect of how this Pandemic changed ur lifestyle..
 
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MarianneC

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Become more picky, set some hard criteria for yourself. Make a checklist of what you want out of the experience, and don't compromise on them. You'll be surprised how many choices just drop away, and reduce your chances of going out. You're not going cold-turkey and testing your self-resolve, but the criteria list by themselves help you stay under control.
 

haplessinquiry

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Yeah, the pandemic helped in reducing my amount of hobbying. Sometimes I'd just got bored and go hobbying pre-pandemic, that was not as easily done during the lockdowns. It helped me become more picky, like Marianne said.
 
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fictionfactor

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I feel you, Bro
I don't do drugs, I don't drink alcohol but I'm addicted to women!

3-4 years ago, I was addicted AF. I decided to retire to protect my finances. It lasted 6 months but honestly, I was miserable during that entire 6 months.
I came out of retirement, now I still hobby but less.
The addiction is still there but it's under control.
You don't drink you don't spoke, what do you do? .............anyone see what i did here?
 

Hippopotamus

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Is this something known about addictions, some kind of rule of thumb?
I don’t think it is a Rule of Thumb. Also, data differs among researchers. And some authors as well (I remember reading 11 years ago a novel “The Monk who sold his Ferrari by Robin Sharma” It mentioned that for a new habit to get cultivated, it needs to be done continuously for at least 21 days, being consistent everyday- and the habit that the author talked about was “Waking up early in the morning at 5am” )
Whether this can be applied directly to an addiction is dependent on how bad/strong the addiction is..
 
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thedude35

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I'm addicted to this hobby and want out. Any suggestions? Any good programs out there? Such a love/hate relationship. Does nothing for my self esteem.
First of all, every time you start looking for someone, go jerk off. I'm not kidding. The kids call it post-nut clarity, and we've likely all been there. Often when seeing a provider, as I imagine you have, hence this post. For me, about 50% of the time I see someone, there's a sense of clarity the instant I'm done. For me it's not shame or regret so much as "that wasn't worth it" (even if the provider is good).

I stick to indy massage, which helps me. I only started this hobby about 4-5 years ago, and I never felt great about myself after an SP or hybrid session. Once I switched to massage only, that shame went away, and it was really only a monetary/time wasted issue for me, lol. Like thinking "that wasn't worth it", regardless of how good the session or provider was. Again, it was partly about the $$ and partly about how much time I spent finding someone, setting up an appointment, getting to/from the location, etc. I realized I was taking up several hours of my day when all was said and done, for something that can be taken care of in 5 minutes, for free, with pornhub. Not the same, obviously, but same result - an orgasm - then move on to the rest of my day. Unless you're hyper-sexual, most of us can switch off once we cum, but like most guys, when we're horny, there's no stopping us lol. So achieve the end result you're looking for, first, then decide if you want to continue.

These days, I see someone every 3 months or so just for the human contact. I get myself off when I get the urge to start looking again. And I don't spend nearly as much time trying to find someone, make an appointment, etc. as I used to. I'm also addicted to sex and anything sex related, as is pretty much everyone here. No shame in that. But for me, it's more about the pursuit than it is the ending, which is why I stick to indy massage. And I mean home-based massage providers who may provide extras, not sex workers who provide massage. It sounds stupid, but this way it makes me feel like I'm making a bit of an effort myself and appreciate anything extra I may get from a masseuse who is selective about who they provide endings for. Back in the day, I would try out pretty much any masseuse who advertised on Kijiji or craigslist or wherever, and not go in expecting anything but a massage, and often that's exactly what I would get. But 30-40% of the time, I'd leave happy. Sometimes I'd get WAY more than that (I have some great stories!) But I find these days, there's not a lot of these masseuses out there, it's usually pretty obvious what their business entails.

But every few months when I really get the urge, I book with someone I know provides a solid massage and extras, and that holds me over til the next time I need exactly that. In between, I either take care of myself when I start thinking along those lines, or I hit up Kijiji and start asking any new ads I haven't seen before. If any of those work out, I may see them. Sometimes it's just a decent massage and if it was good, I just jerk one out quickly once she leaves the room (we've all been there, lol). Related, I've been caught a few times doing that, unintentionally, and it's lead to a helping hand a few times (and once, a lot more than that!), or at least a giggle and a "don't worry about it!" I don't recommend doing that on purpose though, as it's also been uncomfortable a couple of times. I've seen enough independent home-based masseuses to be pretty accurate about how open they are about things like this. If you're fully draped throughout, especially with a heavy sheet, then forget about anything lol. But many are absolutely fine with you being completely undraped and even tell you so, without you asking. Doesn't mean you're going to get an ending, but it does mean they're not offended by a huge erection and likely wouldn't be offended if you take care of it yourself after they've left the room :)

IME experience, home-based independent masseuses are far more exciting than seeing someone you know will give you more, for a price, and it keeps me grounded and shame-free. I've also gotten to know a handful of these masseuses a little bit over the years, and many actually enjoy massaging men for the same reasons we men would enjoy massaging women ;) I've talked to a few who say they often get turned on (depends on who they're massaging obviously, just like real life. Decent looking, nice body, nice cock, good personality etc.) They can also be attracted to a client, or their body. I know a fully legit RMT who has said she definitely enjoys working on men she finds attractive (but keeps it 100% professional, obviously). For me, this is much of the excitement I get from this. If I book with someone who I know provides me extras, then there wasn't any effort on my part about it, and therefore it's not too exciting for me. If I book with someone who I have little to no idea about, and something does happen, then it makes me feel like it's partially me, if that makes sense, even if it's somebody who's simply selective about who they provide extras for. That means, at least, they're comfortable with me, and occasionally that they're actually into it. And for the handful of times it was clearly the provider being horny/attracted to me in some way, that makes it so much better, because it's genuine :) It's rare, obviously, but all the same, it can happen.

Anyway, orgasms clear the mind, lol
 
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Gurney

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First of all, every time you start looking for someone, go jerk off. I'm not kidding. The kids call it post-nut clarity, and we've likely all been there. Often when seeing a provider, as I imagine you have, hence this post. For me, about 50% of the time I see someone, there's a sense of clarity the instant I'm done. For me it's not shame or regret so much as "that wasn't worth it" (even if the provider is good).

I stick to indy massage, which helps me. I only started this hobby about 4-5 years ago, and I never felt great about myself after an SP or hybrid session. Once I switched to massage only, that shame went away, and it was really only a monetary/time wasted issue for me, lol. Like thinking "that wasn't worth it", regardless of how good the session or provider was. Again, it was partly about the $$ and partly about how much time I spent finding someone, setting up an appointment, getting to/from the location, etc. I realized I was taking up several hours of my day when all was said and done, for something that can be taken care of in 5 minutes, for free, with pornhub. Not the same, obviously, but same result - an orgasm - then move on to the rest of my day. Unless you're hyper-sexual, most of us can switch off once we cum, but like most guys, when we're horny, there's no stopping us lol. So achieve the end result you're looking for, first, then decide if you want to continue.

These days, I see someone every 3 months or so just for the human contact. I get myself off when I get the urge to start looking again. And I don't spend nearly as much time trying to find someone, make an appointment, etc. as I used to. I'm also addicted to sex and anything sex related, as is pretty much everyone here. No shame in that. But for me, it's more about the pursuit than it is the ending, which is why I stick to indy massage. And I mean home-based massage providers who may provide extras, not sex workers who provide massage. It sounds stupid, but this way it makes me feel like I'm making a bit of an effort myself and appreciate anything extra I may get from a masseuse who is selective about who they provide endings for. Back in the day, I would try out pretty much any masseuse who advertised on Kijiji or craigslist or wherever, and not go in expecting anything but a massage, and often that's exactly what I would get. But 30-40% of the time, I'd leave happy. Sometimes I'd get WAY more than that (I have some great stories!) But I find these days, there's not a lot of these masseuses out there, it's usually pretty obvious what their business entails.

But every few months when I really get the urge, I book with someone I know provides a solid massage and extras, and that holds me over til the next time I need exactly that. In between, I either take care of myself when I start thinking along those lines, or I hit up Kijiji and start asking any new ads I haven't seen before. If any of those work out, I may see them. Sometimes it's just a decent massage and if it was good, I just jerk one out quickly once she leaves the room (we've all been there, lol). Related, I've been caught a few times doing that, unintentionally, and it's lead to a helping hand a few times (and once, a lot more than that!), or at least a giggle and a "don't worry about it!" I don't recommend doing that on purpose though, as it's also been uncomfortable a couple of times. I've seen enough independent home-based masseuses to be pretty accurate about how open they are about things like this. If you're fully draped throughout, especially with a heavy sheet, then forget about anything lol. But many are absolutely fine with you being completely undraped and even tell you so, without you asking. Doesn't mean you're going to get an ending, but it does mean they're not offended by a huge erection and likely wouldn't be offended if you take care of it yourself after they've left the room :)

IME experience, home-based independent masseuses are far more exciting than seeing someone you know will give you more, for a price, and it keeps me grounded and shame-free. I've also gotten to know a handful of these masseuses a little bit over the years, and many actually enjoy massaging men for the same reasons we men would enjoy massaging women ;) I've talked to a few who say they often get turned on (depends on who they're massaging obviously, just like real life. Decent looking, nice body, nice cock, good personality etc.) They can also be attracted to a client, or their body. I know a fully legit RMT who has said she definitely enjoys working on men she finds attractive (but keeps it 100% professional, obviously). For me, this is much of the excitement I get from this. If I book with someone who I know provides me extras, then there wasn't any effort on my part about it, and therefore it's not too exciting for me. If I book with someone who I have little to no idea about, and something does happen, then it makes me feel like it's partially me, if that makes sense, even if it's somebody who's simply selective about who they provide extras for. That means, at least, they're comfortable with me, and occasionally that they're actually into it. And for the handful of times it was clearly the provider being horny/attracted to me in some way, that makes it so much better, because it's genuine :) It's rare, obviously, but all the same, it can happen.

Anyway, orgasms clear the mind, lol
Like doing the grocery while you are hungry... ;-)
 
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