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But so far, a total of 3 million early ballots have been counted in several states, including North Carolina, and the dems are leading:http://www.huliq.com/10178/midterm-elections-2010-has-obama-reading-bill-clinton

http://content.usatoday.com/communi...10/early-voting-gives-edge-to-the-democrats/1
"If people thought the Democrats were just going to roll over and play dead in this election, that's not what we're seeing," said Michael McDonald, a George Mason University professor who tracks early voting nationally....".
 

schne327

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It sounds like everybody must be happy with Obama, Pelosi, and Reid. It is probably a combination of the popular health care bill, the booming economy, and federal fiscal responsibility.
 

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Must be the heck-of-a-mess he was left by the previous morons....:rolleyes:
 

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That's right, give them hope right before the fall......

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David Frum: When the youth stay home, the Republicans win big

Republicans are poised to win a big victory in the Nov. 2 U.S. congressional elections. Why?

Republicans tell this story: A basically conservative country is rejecting a too-liberal president. Democrats tell another story: Americans are voting against the recession. When the economy recovers, so will the Democratic party.

Let me advance a third and more accurate explanation: It’s about the generation gap.
In 2008, Barack Obama and the Democrats benefited from a huge turnout of young voters. Young voters still like President Obama and still prefer Democrats. Voters under 30 give Obama a 58% approval rating. Young voters prefer Democrats over Republicans by 20 points.

The young are the only group that likes the Obama health plan. They think his economic policies are working. Almost two-thirds of them believe that recovery has already begun (as compared to barely one-third of over-65s).

So, question: If young voters like Obama so much, why is the President’s party about to be hammered? Answer: Because young voters will not be showing up in November.

Older Americans are always more likely to vote than younger Americans. In 2006, for example, voters over 45 made up 53% of the population — but cast 63% of the votes.

Older Americans outvote younger voters for many reasons, including:

•America’s single biggest social welfare program, Medicare, covers over 65s. America’s second-biggest social welfare program, Social Security, pays pensions to over 65s. Unsurprisingly, over 65s vote to keep the money flowing.
•Younger Americans move more often, and so are more likely to drop off the registration roll.
•Younger Americans are more likely to belong to ethnic minorities, especially the fast-growing Hispanic minority, and minority voters have lower turnout at all ages.
The very youngest voters, the under 30s, are the least likely to vote of all, and they are especially unlikely to vote if unemployment is high. The last time a non-presidential election coincided with a year of elevated unemployment was 1994. That year, voters under 30 made up only 13% of the electorate — and Republicans of course won in a massive landslide.

But as sure as dinner follows lunch, presidential years follow congressional years— and the big electorate reappears: 49.1% turnout in 1996, 51.3% turnout in 2000, 55.3% turnout in 2004, 56.8% turnout in 2008.

Political scientists argue about why U.S. voter turnout has been rising. An important part of the story seems to be that today’s under 30s — the so-called Millennial generation — are more politically interested than their predecessors, Generation X.

Millennials take a very different view of politics from older cohorts of Americans. For example, offered a choice between a government that offers higher taxes and more services, or fewer services and lower taxes, older Americans choose the lower-tax alternative. Sixty-two percent of over 65s prefer the lower tax alternative, as do 58% of voters in the 50-64 group, and 56% of voters aged 30-49.

Under 30s prefer bigger government by a margin of 53-43.

Under 30s are more socially liberal too, and less nationalistic than over 30s.

All these numbers suggest two conclusions:

Be very careful about projecting forward from the 2010 congressional results to the 2012 presidential vote. These elections almost occur in two different countries.

Be very careful about assuming that Republican success in 2010 signifies that Republicans have overcome the longer-term problems that I’ve been writing about these past five years. If Republicans cannot connect better to the huge new Millennial generation, next month’s success will only be a happy interval before 2012’s grim challenges.

©David Frum
dfrum@frumforum.com

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Read more: http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com...y-home-the-republicans-win-big/#ixzz13E0ocl5G
 

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I've always thought of David Frum as somewhat of a buffoon. How he ended up kneeling at the altar of right-wing ideology given his family history is peculiar at best.

And then, when I thought that Frum was going to be eternally lost in the bizarre world of the US conservative movement, he started to become practical. Realistic. Dare I say it, smart.

Then he found himself on the outside of the right-wing agenda looking in after being unceremoniously dismissed by the something called the American Enterprise Institute. (The AEI is one of those think-tanks, much like the Fraser Institute here in Canada, that bows to the Holy Trinity of smaller government, lower taxes for the rich and laissez-faire economics. Yea, I know, it doesn't work in the US any better than it does in Canada. Nor does it to Alan Greenspan. But I digress...)

I've started to have second thoughts about Frum. He's still destined to be an outsider to the US conservative movement given his predilection to - gasp - tell the truth, that the right-wing emperor has no clothes.

So when he cautions about reading too much into the series of mid-term elections that are imminent, he's coming from a perspective of someone who actually knows how these things work because he's been on the inside.

Republicans, Tea Partiers and those of that ilk will very likely ignore Frum's warnings because, after all, they don't align with Republican prophecy.

Rational thinkers, though, might be wise to read Frum's scribblings carefully and take heart that the decimated right-wing still can't get it right.
 

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If you're referring to when Obama won the Election, your off by a couple of years...
Conservatives sometimes forget how dense libs. are. He is referring to when the Dems. took over congress. (In the U.S. for Danmand)
 

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Any GOP "win" would have everything to do with people giving up on Obamao and no-confidence votes on the Democrats when the party has the majority in the congress for 2 years, not necessarily because the GOP and the ilks from the Tea Party have better ideas/alternatives per se. :rolleyes:
 

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Early ballots show the Dems are ahead
Either this is "Dewey beats Truman" part two for a dramatic shift in the electorate at the last minute which poor polling techniques failed to catch, early polling is done by the "true believers", or Fred's information is inaccurate.
 

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So lets give the free spending Conservatives another crack at the pig trough lets see how bad things really get.
LOL!
Well El Rusbloe the boss of the GOP is hoping for failure....:eek:
 

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...and where Conservatives get stupid is that they tend to forget economy's fate was sealed before the Dems took control with all the deregulation of the Banking Industry they did with housing showing cracks long before the 2008 financial crash that lead to the high unemployment numbers. The fact that the Dems kept unemployment under 20% with what they had to work with is something to be applauded.

So lets give the free spending Conservatives another crack at the pig trough lets see how bad things really get.


kf1
Let's not give the "free spending Conservatives" nor the exponentially freer spending liberals "another crack". Let's give the fiscally conservative Constitutional Conservatives a "crack".
 

Eric Blair

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Let's not give the "free spending Conservatives" nor the exponentially freer spending liberals "another crack". Let's give the fiscally conservative Constitutional Conservatives a "crack".
The biggest reasons for deficits are tht Republicans do not believe that wars, the military, and prisons should count as government spending anyway so we can let those rip. The second reason the USA has deficits is because nobody collects taxes from rich people.
 

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It sounds like everybody must be happy with Obama, Pelosi, and Reid. It is probably a combination of the popular health care bill, the booming economy, and federal fiscal responsibility.
The health care bill is quite popular apparently....about 2/3rd favor it. I think the economy and fiscal situation is seen as the Dems doing the best they can in a crisis. Just wait...when we are close to the Presidental election, the Feds will be throwing bankers and credit rating execs in prison by the bushel....it will be a war on wall street lol.....
 

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....In the end it might not be a bad thing for the Republicians to lose this round and prune the nuts out of the Party.
Sadly the nuts are now running the GOP into the toilet. Just look for confirmation from their postings here....:p
 

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The interesting fact that the Dems are leading in the advance poll is that it is usually a strong indicator of the highly motivated voter which one would think would be Republicans. The Republicans may have miss stepped here thinking this would be a cake walk and some of the outrageous comments made recently by certain far right Republicans, and the fact that normal Republican candidates have had to take far right positions just to compete in Republican Primaries may have blunted the Republican platform ( well it's not so much a platform because it is about the most vague statement I've ever seen since Dewey's platform).

I find this all very interesting, the polls tell me that Dems are in for a very big hurt on election, the advance polls are saying something else. In the end it might not be a bad thing for the Republicians to lose this round and prune the nuts out of the Party.


kf1
Actually all the early returns favor the Republicans. Here is an article from today's New York Times that lays it out for you. BTW Nate Silver is a registered democrat.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytime...rs-consistent-with-polls/?partner=rss&emc=rss
 
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