Duceppe Retiring After Next Election ? Maybe Dion should join him ?

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From Lysiane Gagnon. LaPresse ( Globe & Mail May 5, 2008)

" The next federal election - whenever there is one, and it won't be any time soon- might very well be the exit door for Bloc Quebecois Leader Gilles Duceppe. His party is losing ground. The sovereigntist option is in such decline that even the province's Parti Quebecois hardly talks about it.. Mt Duceppe hinted recently that he was thinking about retirement, and there is a handsome pension awaiting him when he resigns from the Parliamnet he didn't recognize as his own.

Last week's survey by the Quebec polling firm CROP says it all. For the first time since it's birth in 1993 the Bloc's support has dropped below 30 per cent. It is now at 28 per cent - a long way from the 42 per cent of the vote it garnered in the 2006 election. In the homogeneously francophone suburbs around Montreal the Conservatives and the Bloc are neck and neck, and in the Quebec City region, the Bloc trails the Tories by 21 points.

One out of every three people who voted Bloc in 2006 is now poised to vote for a federalist party, with most choosing the NDP or the Conservatives. Don't look for many to support the Liberals- they could be campaigning on the moon; they are completely out of the game.

The NDP, traditionally absent from Quebec, is now polling stronger than the Dion Liberals amomg Francophones. At 13 per cent support from francophones voters, the Liberal party is five points behind the NDP."

The article goes on to say that the Conservatives blunders by Lapierre and Blackburn and lack of major accomplishment in 2008 are overshadowed by the ineffectual leadership of Duceppe and Dion. Dion is polling less than 10 per cent in his hometown of Quebec City. To add insult to injury only half of those polled as Liberal supporters think that Dion would make the best Prime Minister.

This poll, which is the basis of the article, was taken last week. Oddly the thing that annoys me the most is Duceppe getting a big fat federal pension.

 

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From Lysiane Gagnon. LaPresse ( Globe & Mail May 5, 2008)





This poll, which is the basis of the article, was taken last week. Oddly the thing that annoys me the most is Duceppe getting a big fat federal pension.

why does that bother you more than any other retired mp getting a pension?

 

[LancsLad]

why does that bother you more than any other retired mp getting a pension?

He's a farkin traitor like the rest of those yellow bastards.



Thats why.



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[danmand]

He's a farkin traitor like the rest of those yellow bastards.



Thats why.

Not to worry. We are practically all traitors in your little world.

 

[LancsLad]

Not to worry. We are practically all traitors in your little world.

By all means include yourself with those two.

the fit works.



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[red]

He's a farkin traitor like the rest of those yellow bastards.



Thats why.



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how is he traitor?

 

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"High treason
(1) Every one commits high treason who, in Canada,
(a) kills or attempts to kill Her Majesty, or does her any bodily harm tending to death or destruction, maims or wounds her, or imprisons or restrains her;
(b) levies war against Canada or does any act preparatory thereto; or
(c) assists an enemy at war with Canada, or any armed forces against whom Canadian Forces are engaged in hostilities, whether or not a state of war exists between Canada and the country whose forces they are.
Treason
(2) Every one commits treason who, in Canada,
(a) uses force or violence for the purpose of overthrowing the government of Canada or a province;
(b) without lawful authority, communicates or makes available to an agent of a state other than Canada, military or scientific information or any sketch, plan, model, article, note or document of a military or scientific character that he knows or ought to know may be used by that state for a purpose prejudicial to the safety or defence of Canada;
(c) conspires with any person to commit high treason or to do anything mentioned in paragraph (a);
(d) forms an intention to do anything that is high treason or that is mentioned in paragraph (a) and manifests that intention by an overt act; or
(e) conspires with any person to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) or forms an intention to do anything mentioned in paragraph (b) and manifests that intention by an overt act."
It is also illegal for a Canadian citizen to do any of the above outside Canada.

The penalty for high treason is life imprisonment. The penalty for treason is imprisonment up to a maximum of life, or up to 14 years for conduct under subsection (2)(b) or (e) in peacetime.

 

[LancsLad]

how is he traitor?

You answered , thanks.


we are at war with those farkhead yellow bellied separatists and they should all be dealt with as they would have been during the good old days.


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You answered , thanks.


we are at war with those farkhead yellow bellied separatists and they should all be dealt with as they would have been during the good old days.


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how are they different than what Harper is preaching- a decentralized Canada made up of provinces which answer to themselves and their own interests?

 

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why does that bother you more than any other retired mp getting a pension?

Because it would feel like alimony and still being forced to live with the wife.

Because if Duceppe had done the job his constituents wanted him to do I wouldn't have had to pay him.

The reasons are fairly obvious are they not?

 

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If Ducette and Dion retire after the next election, maybe Harper should join them ????

Because you just don't like him? If he loses to Dion he should retire based on where the polls in Quebec are now. Atcually anybody who loses to Dion should retire

The article was not flattering to the Conservatives or Harper's personal diplomacy. It ended with her basically saying Harper was lucky that Duceppe and Dion were so bad.

 

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Because it would feel like alimony and still being forced to live with the wife.

Because if Duceppe had done the job his constituents wanted him to do I wouldn't have had to pay him.

The reasons are fairly obvious are they not?

until then he is a mp elected by tax paying canadians, same as any other

 

[danmand]

By all means include yourself with those two.

the fit works.

Instead of repetitively telling us who are traitors in your little perverse universe,
why don't you once and forall tell us who are on your short list of non-traitors.

It would save bandwith.

 

[LancsLad]

Instead of repetitively telling us who are traitors in your little perverse universe,
why don't you once and forall tell us who are on your short list of non-traitors.

It would save bandwith.

You'll know who we are when we are ready.

If you can't recognize a patriotic Canadian then perhaps thats a large part of your problem.


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[danmand]

You'll know who we are when we are ready.
If you can't recognize a patriotic Canadian then perhaps thats a large part of your problem.

You and ?????

PS: I hold patriotism to generally be a destructive force.

 

[LancsLad]

how are they different than what Harper is preaching- a decentralized Canada made up of provinces which answer to themselves and their own interests?

decentralization as a devolution of overwhelming centralized power is one thing. Those yellow bellied bastards want to leave our Country on their own terms and still have us for support. fark'em all.

Make no mistake, i hope the door hits those bastards really hard in the ass on the way out, but the buggers go on our terms not theirs.

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decentralization as a devolution of overwhelming centralized power is one thing. Those yellow bellied bastards want to leave our Country on their own terms and still have us for support. fark'em all.

Make no mistake, i hope the door hits those bastards really hard in the ass on the way out, but the buggers go on our terms not theirs.

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explain to me the difference. autonomous provinces and separate states?

 

[danmand]

decentralization as a devolution of overwhelming centralized power is one thing. Those yellow bellied bastards want to leave our Country on their own terms and still have us for support. fark'em all.

Make no mistake, i hope the door hits those bastards really hard in the ass on the way out, but the buggers go on our terms not theirs.

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Allow me to point out a slight logic inconsistency in your views.

You repetitively tell us that "your kind" "soon" will take care of all us traitors,
immigrants, english as second language speakers, non-whites, etc etc.

You call the separatists cowards, while it would appear to be very courageous to
openly stand up and offend "your kind"

What gives?

 

[TQM]

point of order

Even if Quebec had become independent - its citizens would still be owed their Canada Pension - whatever they've paid into it; and those that had been MP's would be owed their pensions as well. Think about pensions as no different than salaries - only they get paid at a later date.

 

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explain to me the difference. autonomous provinces and separate states?

You do realize that according to the constitution, the federal government is currently in many areas that are really provincial jurisdiction. Indeed, can you name one area that Harper wants to reduce federal involvement in that is not actually an area of provincial jurisdiction? Perhaps your concerns should be directed at those who wrote and who last revised the constitution. In addition, given that "autonomous provinces" is your own term, perhaps you would be best suited to explain the difference in your straw man arguement.