Dragons' Den contestant who was laughed off show turns invention into success

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An interesting story

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...nt-laughed-turns-invention-huge-business.html

A swimming coach has turned his invention into a huge business success despite being ridiculed on the BBC's Dragons' Den TV programme.



Kevin Moseley dreamed up the idea for a child's buoyancy aid sharped like a shark fin and went on the BBC2 show hoping for investment.

The father-of-two, 45, recalls how Theo Paphitis warned the idea was dangerous and Duncan Bannatyne laughed in his face on the show in 2006.

Mr Moseley only developed a business plan for his idea so he could appear on the show, but pledged to go it alone after he was snubbed.

With the backing of his wife Nicky, 39, the couple remortgaged their home and cashed in their life savings to raise a total of £200,000 for the new business.

He registered worldwide patents and started Swimfin Ltd from the garage of their home in Burscough, Lancashire, with one other employee.

In its first year of trading, Swimfin has become an international sensation with orders flooding in from 47 countries and sales topping 70,000.

Mr Moseley gave up his job as a swimming instructor to concentrate all his efforts on his company and it is expected to turnover more than £1million next year.

He said: 'It was a very bruising experience to appear on Dragons' Den. I felt like I had been set up to be laughed off the show.

'The Dragons sat there with their big egos and just slagged me off.

'By the end of the experience I was angry and frustrated and determined to show them they were wrong.'

Mr Moseley had appeared on the show alongside Olympic swimmer Mark Foster, who endorsed the Swimfin.

But Theo Paphitis described the six-time world champion as an 'idiot' for backing the product.

'I went on the show because I was a swimming instructor, not a businessman,' Mr Moseley said.

'I needed the money and advice but I was made to feel like a naughty schoolboy. I had only created a business plan so that I could present to the Dragons.

'But the experience made me determined to succeed and I realised that I did have a good product that would help children learn to swim, so I decided to carry on alone.'

Mr Moseley had wanted £150,000 for five per cent of his business and rejected an offer of £75,000 investment for 25 per cent of his business from Peter Jones.

He originally created the Swimfin 22 years ago by shaping two polystyrene 'kick board' floats and slotting them together. He wore the 'shark fin' as a game with children under his instruction.

He said: 'As a playtime reward, I cut two little kick boards into a fin shape and slotted them together so that it could sit on my back.

'I would then submerge and chase the kids so that all they saw was the tip of the fin coming towards them.

'But my eureka moment was when a four-year-old, who was struggling in the water, said he wanted to be Sharky.

'I let him wear the fin and we found he could swim with it on his back. It gave him freedom, confidence and mobility in the water.'

Manufactured in China and costing £19.99, each Swimfin is strapped to a child's back and works as a streamlined self-adjusting buoyancy aid.

Learners with swimming skills sit low in the water, submerging the fin so it acts as a float.

As their skills and confidence improve, the fin raises out of the water naturally, allowing the child to do more of the support work themselves until they no longer need it.

Swimfin has won government assistance through the UK Trade & Investment and the Northwest Regional Development Agency.

Judith Kyle, international trade adviser for UKTI North West, said: 'Kevin's design is proving to be a real hit among parents and swimming associations across the globe.

'Very early on he recognised the opportunity to export the Swimfin and secured the relevant international patents.'
 

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Good for him, glad to hear he did it on his own. Those guys on the Den are a bunch of pompous, arrogant, condescending, conceited, patronizing, A-holes IMO, at least the ones in Canada, I would assume they have the same traits in England. Albeit they are rich A-holes, lol.
 

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I don't understand??

It mentions he was laughed at and riduculed yet they did offer him 75 000 for 25%?

and he wanted 150 000 for 5%???

This is the laughable part. People always feel their company is worth more than it is? He went on the show when the companty was already worth $3MILLION?...cause that's what the valuation is at 150k @ 5%????

There's not enough data to tell for sure, but assuming a 50% margin which might be optimistic(im not sure), it might have been a good deal for the Dragons at 25%, but it would have been meaningless reward for far too much risk at only 5% for $150 000.

Noone ever looks at it if someone was coming to them for the money.
 

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There must be something I'm failing to grasp about the design. I would think that it would tend to hold a child in a face down in the water position, and present them from getting onto their back into one of the "drown proofing" positions.

As such I would think that in the U.S. or Canada it would be banned for that reason.
 

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As far as I know you can not patent a shape, so the shark shaped design is not protectable. What will stop another person from producing a tube shaped strap on flotation device?
 

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Good for him, glad to hear he did it on his own. Those guys on the Den are a bunch of pompous, arrogant, condescending, conceited, patronizing, A-holes IMO, at least the ones in Canada, I would assume they have the same traits in England. Albeit they are rich A-holes, lol.
Actually, I watch is quite regularly.. they are for the most part pretty decent and very reasonable with their offers. Unlike the Canadian bunch are are some of the most greedy, nasty business people I've ever seen on TV.
 

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way out in left field
There must be something I'm failing to grasp about the design. I would think that it would tend to hold a child in a face down in the water position, and present them from getting onto their back into one of the "drown proofing" positions.

As such I would think that in the U.S. or Canada it would be banned for that reason.
As he said, the shape allows a child to float in it almost sitting upright and as their skill progresses, it then turns into a shark fin out of the water. I don't know how it does it but if it works, who cares?

As for someone copying it. You CAN copyright a product and if that product is a shark fin shaped flotation device, he's good to go. But then again, it's being made in China so a knockoff is probably already on the shelves.
 

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As he said, the shape allows a child to float in it almost sitting upright
Perhaps I'm reading right over it, but I don't see that in the article. And yeh, I certainly would want to know that it works such that a child is not going to be pushed face down in the water before I allowed a relative of mine to wear it.
 

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Those guys on the Den are a bunch of pompous, arrogant, condescending, conceited, patronizing, A-holes IMO, at least the ones in Canada, I would assume they have the same traits in England. Albeit they are rich A-holes, lol.
Unlike the Canadian bunch are are some of the most greedy, nasty business people I've ever seen on TV.
Ummmmmmmmm........... not really.

Get your facts straight, at least, about Bret Wilson.

He is from Saskatchewan and gives millions each year to charity.

He is possibly the #1 philanthropist we have here in Canada.

I know because one of the charities he supports is Blind Dogs of Canada. And I heard him speak once with my grandmother who recieved a dog from that organization.

Wilson is active in the charitable community, having given, and engaged others to give, tens of millions to nonprofit initiatives. He often takes a hands-on approach to philanthropy, including shaving his head to support kids cancer care, and climbing Mount Kilimanjaro to support Alzheimer’s research. He has for many years made annual trips with Youth With a Mission to Mexico to build homes with his family. Wilson has focused his philanthropic initiatives on his home provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan. He is a supporter of his alma mater, the University of Saskatchewan, and established the Wilson Centre for Entrepreneurial Excellence there in 2007. In May 2007, Wilson quarterbacked one of the largest fundraisers held in Calgary - a joint 50th birthday party with 12 other community leaders - raising over $5 million for awareness and support of Prostate Cancer. He then co-chaired the David Foster Foundation event in Calgary in September 2007 which raised over $3 million for families of children requiring organ transplants. On February 2, 2009 it was announced that the Foster event won an award for Best Event Produced for a Non-Profit from the Special Events Magazine International Gala Awards. He is active on profiling and funding research into the issue of domestic abuse, and has funded the Wilson Centre for Domestic Abuse Studies at the Calgary Counselling Centre. He is a supporter of the Canadian Olympic Swim Team and has made a significant donation toward the men’s 2008 Beijing relay team training. He also supports the sport of volleyball, and now supports the Rally Pointe volleyball centre in Calgary.

http://www.wbrettwilson.ca/
 

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Never bet on who will be successful in starting a new business. At least one half of the time, the key variable is simply determination and perseverence. The successful person is the person that just kept trying.

Also, it is very hard to analyze a half baked business idea. The value in the business is always in the last piece that makes the concept profitable, but how do you count the missing pieces? Typically, the missing pieces only come into focus once the cash is committed and the company is "almost" there.
 

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Thanks. As is said a picture is worth a thousand words. I'm still not sure I understand how the center of buoyancy works when a child is wearing the fin, but kids seem to have no problems with keeping their head above water and even being on their backs. So it's great that Kevin Moseley has invented a sucessful product and I’m glad to wish him all the best..
 

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Ummmmmmmmm........... not really.

Get your facts straight, at least, about Bret Wilson.

He is from Saskatchewan and gives millions each year to charity.

He is possibly the #1 philanthropist we have here in Canada.

I know because one of the charities he supports is Blind Dogs of Canada. And I heard him speak once with my grandmother who recieved a dog from that organization.

Wilson is active in the charitable community, having given, and engaged others to give, tens of millions to nonprofit initiatives. He often takes a hands-on approach to philanthropy, including shaving his head to support kids cancer care, and climbing Mount Kilimanjaro to support Alzheimer’s research. He has for many years made annual trips with Youth With a Mission to Mexico to build homes with his family. Wilson has focused his philanthropic initiatives on his home provinces of Alberta and Saskatchewan. He is a supporter of his alma mater, the University of Saskatchewan, and established the Wilson Centre for Entrepreneurial Excellence there in 2007. In May 2007, Wilson quarterbacked one of the largest fundraisers held in Calgary - a joint 50th birthday party with 12 other community leaders - raising over $5 million for awareness and support of Prostate Cancer. He then co-chaired the David Foster Foundation event in Calgary in September 2007 which raised over $3 million for families of children requiring organ transplants. On February 2, 2009 it was announced that the Foster event won an award for Best Event Produced for a Non-Profit from the Special Events Magazine International Gala Awards. He is active on profiling and funding research into the issue of domestic abuse, and has funded the Wilson Centre for Domestic Abuse Studies at the Calgary Counselling Centre. He is a supporter of the Canadian Olympic Swim Team and has made a significant donation toward the men’s 2008 Beijing relay team training. He also supports the sport of volleyball, and now supports the Rally Pointe volleyball centre in Calgary.

http://www.wbrettwilson.ca/
Honestly, I've not seen it since this guy joined, so I can't comment. But the rest of them (and the one who must no longer be on the show) were super greedy, pretty much always demanding 51%. On top of that, the bald guy is an incredible prick. The British ones for the most part are polite and offer reasonable demands when it comes to their shares in a company.
 

Mia.Colpa

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Ummmmmmmmm........... not really.

Get your facts straight, at least, about Bret Wilson.

He is from Saskatchewan and gives millions each year to charity.

He is possibly the #1 philanthropist we have here in Canada.
I don't know what facts you're talking about, I only described their character traits on the program and for the most part, they're like that in business.

Who said you can't be a pompous, arrogant, condescending, conceited, patronizing A-hole and also be a philanthropist? The two aren't mutually exclusive. One of the most famous philanthropist ever was also one of the biggest belligerant A-hole I've ever known, every heard of Harold Ballard??

In fact all of them are good philanthropists. I've known Jim Treliving since 1986, since his Vancouver days when he was aggressively trying to grow a Boston Pizza chain in Western Canada from a few stores to an international conglomerate today, he's probably the nicest guy of the bunch and a huge philanthropist, but he can still be a pompous A-hole with the best of them when he wants to.

Anyway, back to this thread topic, that fin idea is such a simple and fabulous concept to help small, first time swimmers. Brilliant little device, most great ideas are usually simple ones, again good for inventor.
 
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