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bigtotem69

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You have to check out this site! His business card was stuck on my car window at Finch station yesterday. The URL sounded interesting so I went to visit. Wow! What a story! This guy has been through hell and back with his vehicle. Check it out!

www.donotbuydodge.ca
 

Esco!

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SHIT!!!! I didnt know Dodge products/service were that bad.
Something to keep in mind.

Could this not have happened with any car manufacturer, however???
 

Qsecofr720

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SHIT!!!! I didnt know Dodge products/service were that bad.
Something to keep in mind.

Could this not have happened with any car manufacturer, however???
They are not that bad. Any manufacturer can produce a product that has defects. Unfortunitly, this guy happens to have one and he is probably not the type to deal with the problem rationaly. He takes the public humiliation route and hoping to get results. What he needs to do is deal with D-C at the National Head Office level with a solicitor if the problem is that bad.

I did not read it all but has he stopped paying the lease payments as a breach of contract? That certainly gets their attention.

I drive a Dodge and have dealt with at least one of the dealerships that he mentions and have had nothing but great service and the car (Stealth RT) has no problems.
 

Goober Mcfly

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Qsecofr720 said:
They are not that bad. Any manufacturer can produce a product that has defects. Unfortunitly, this guy happens to have one and he is probably not the type to deal with the problem rationaly. He takes the public humiliation route and hoping to get results. What he needs to do is deal with D-C at the National Head Office level with a solicitor if the problem is that bad.
Read the website. My impression is that he tried very hard to resolve this without going the public humiliation route.

And he tried to get through to D-C Head office.
 

zzap

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The guy should have stuck with Toyota's... might cost more but in the long run seem to be less of a problem. He says he had a Toyota Celica before, he should have kept it!... I have a 2001 Celica GTS since 2000 and I still love the car. Never had any problems except a squeaking belt after 3 years of use and that I changed myself. I've topped 200 Km/h on the 407 .... yeah it's not only a fun car its a fast car too. Had the Police chase me on the QEW and I got away.... now thats a kick ass car!
 

Jamaica-luvr

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What a story!

Makes all the minor(in comparision with his) problems I've had with GM vehicles over the year seem trivial...

More reason why we need a lemon law here in Canada(we don't, only have one in the US)

GOOD FOR HIM!!!!!
 

BiggieE

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2004 Dodge Ram 2500 QuadCab 4X4....


Problems.....0

Return visits to dealer...1....for the free oil change coupon I was given with purchase of truck

Satisfaction.....%100....

I've been driving Dodge trucks since 1986, and this is the best one yet...

1987 Dakota....small little problems fixed by dealer...no questions....

1994 Ram 1500....Transmission blew w/ 76,000 miles..repaired under warranty, even after it had expired...

Toyotas are fine little cars and trucks if you don't mind the fact that they rust out in 3 years...

If Honda built a 2500 pickup with V8 power..I'd think about it....

...til then...when it comes to truck....DODGE IRON RULES!
 

Powershot

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Every mfg makes lemons once in a while.. a co-worker has been trying to get Toyota to buy back his problematic 04 camry for 2 months now.
 

flyingdgn

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This whole incident looks like it could have been avoided if they checked out the original leak properly. I have another story about the Chrysler Service Department.

About 10 years ago my father purchased a Dodge Caravan.

I sent my girlfriend to do an oil change for my father's 3 month old Caravan to the Dodge Dealer at Hwy7 and Yonge.

The mechanic told her that the front brakes had a 'wobble' and that they needed to change the pads and rotors and if it's not done immediately it might be dangerous to drive. This scared the crap out of my girlfriend and she did not want to drive home with that car.

Lucky for me she called first before getting the job done. I rushed over to the dealership asked to see the rotors that had the 'wobble' in it. The mechanic told me that they noticed a slight wobble during the test drive (why they test drive a car after an oil change I'll never know) and they thought it best to change the brakes. I asked for the service report stating this and they did not have one to give me. (big surprise) I took the manager out for a test drive and confirmed that this 3 month old Caravan did not have a 'wobble' in the brakes. The mechanic told me that sometimes these things just come and go and may not be able to feel it during every test drive. I took the car to another mechanic and they told me that there was nothing wrong with the brakes and that the rotors were straight and brand new. I went back to the service department and yelled at the manager for 30 minutes about running a crooked business trying to take advantage of a young girl who didn't know anything about cars.

I found out later that certain Chrysler Service departments are famous for poor work (like the one on the website) and a few have been known to be questionable in their honesty.

My father had many problems with the Caravan over the years but the front brakes were never one of them. In fact the front brakes lasted longer than most other cars that he owned.

I love their pickups and I almost purchased the Ram Extended Cab 4x4 (the blue one with the white stripes down the middle) but I thought about the service problem I had and decided not to. I will never buy anything from Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep again because of their service department.

I am planning to purchase a high performance car in the next 5 years and as much as I love the Viper, it will not be one of the cars I am considering just because of their Service Department.
 

BiggieE

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I have several friends in the auto sevice business, one of them that sells and services Dodge and Chrysler products, among many others. He tells me that all the manufacturers have "problem " vehicles. These are the ones that just can't be diagnosed, for whatever reason. The question I have about this mans minivan....does he live in a submarine?...or an aquarium?..The rust, and mildew problem he describes take time to arise. He must have kept the van closed up, and made no attempt to dry the interior, compounding his problems. He's probably one of the types auto techs hate the most. He shows up at the service desk in the morning and says "it leaks....fix it", without giving the techs anything else to go on. I had a drivability problem with my 94 Ram, that would have been solved much quicker if I had listened more carefully to the service writer. I thought they said not to use fuel treatment, but they had said to use it evry 4-5 tanks of gasoline during the colder months, because the fuel pumps they were using did'nt like moisture in the fuel. I know the customer is always right, but some of them need to use a little common sense............btw flyingdgn....Dodge dealers stateside have special tech who recive special training in dealing with the Viper, and it's servicing needs.
 

auto doctor

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When Lee Iacoca ran Chryco they produced nothing but shit (k-car ..reliant then the caravan and magic wagon that needed tranny's every year.) Their reputation was so bad that they had to do something. That is when the specialty products came out to make them look like the company with quality i.e. Viper, stealth,...

It is amazing what a couple of products change peolpes view of the company. The vans still have tranny problems and the neons are now PT curser for loser...
It is hard to find a pt cruiser without a bill board sign on it..with Joe's Pizza or Video store name on the side of them.


Any way it is a free country. And lots of different junk out there.
Pick your junk
 

zydeco

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maximadude - If that's your opinion that's fine - but as a definitive statement it's ridiculous.
 

zzap

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Here is a very nice black man who's just had enough with crappie Chrysler Service. He's been pushed to the brink of destruction and one day something just snapped in his head. Now whenever he sees a PT Cruiser he just loses control and must smash the shit out of it... take a look at this video...

http://media.ebaumsworld.com/index.php?e=holdinitdown.wmv
 

bishop

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My buddy had a Montana, I do not know who makes it, but 5000 km short of its 50000 km waranty the tranny just took a dump. But it was under warranty so they fixed it for free, well a few thousand km later the tranny started going again. My buddy did the smart thing, while the tranny problem was not too noticable he traded it in for an acura RSX, the poor delear did not detect the problem. To put in a new tranny it would of cost about 4000. I find that in japanese cars they tend to just refine existing engines and tranny on each new model and never really do a complete overhual of a design. I know that you can still swap in a 2004 civic engine into a 1990 civic, the bolt pattern is the same, and you can use a 1990 ecu to control a 2000 civic engine. American car companies are always over hauling their designs, because nothing really works well, refining a shit design results in usually a shitter design. But their new design are always plauged with problems. I mean everyone knows that in general that American car companies are less reliable than japanese cars, I just wish the American car companies would acknoledge this fact as take the ownership of thier problems. An engine is the heart and soul of a car, if anything it should always be free of any defects. I can forgive electrical issues and rusting issues, but never a defect with the engine or tranny.

The only american design that has always impressed me is the corvette, they had a winning design from the start and just continued to refine the corrvette into an attanable sports car that can take on most super cars. However the return of the 300hp Turbo charged Japanese imports may offer more bang for the buck, now.
 

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Re: sorry

maximadude said:
I do apologize...let me rephrase my comments;
In my humble opinion, anyone who can afford to buy a Japanese vehicle, but chooses instead to buy a GM, Chrysler or Korean pos. is just plain stupid. Students and the working poor are exempted.
Are you as ugly as you are ignorant?

My aunt's late model Toyota Camry was destroyed by an engine fire. I think it may be a semi common problem because I saw the same model burning last winter on the 404 coming back from Newmarket.

One of the most costly cars to repair my family has had is an Acura Integra. I replaced the fuel tank on it a few months ago because of a leak. FYI, the tank for a 1994 Integra is a dealer only item. Cost for the bare tank only, no fuel pump, no sending unit, no labour was $823!

I choked at that cost and got one from a "southern" wreck for a mere $375 and did the work myself. Cost for a new aftermarket fuel tank for my Buick is $115.

The power antenna was skipping. Cost is over $400. I just moved it to the down position and unplugged the motor because the car is only driven in the city.

The fuel line rusted out and the lines only were going to cost over $400 for prebent lines. Since the pressure was less than 50 PSI I used a compression fiting and spliced in a mild steel replacement line I made.

The muffler is going on it. Cost $400 part only.

Over $2,000 in rust repair.

The rear calipers may be siezing. I don't know the cost.

Most American cars do not have timing belts that need to be changed because they use chains or gears, a savings from $600 to $800 every 100,000 kms.

The least costly cars we have had to maintain were an Oldsmobile Delta 88 and Cadillac Sedan DeVille.

I own over $10,000 in Snap On tools and meticulously maintain all our cars.
 
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Leggy Linda

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They are all the same!

I had a brand new Cavalier

the thing started to rust the first year I had it

they wouldnt touch it until the hole was one inch in diameter!

lets put it this way

both doors had to be replaced after 5 years!

the engine had to be replaced in 5 years!

they didnt care!

all american cars are all the same
 
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