After reading this, https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?607692-Does-anybody-know-her thought I'd start a poll.
Does the 'No Black Gentleman' policy make you rethink visiting a SP?
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Well obviously it makes me rethink visiting an SP because I'm Black, but all facetiousness aside, yes it still makes me rethink an SP even if she had a different ethnic/cultural restriction.
This topic has been done to death and there are quickly going to be harsh opinions on both sides of the issue (racism versus "statistics"/personal preferences), but I walk the middle ground: providers have the right to establish whatever safeguards might help protect their person/identity in this risky business, but I sincerely hope they do not cast all peoples with the same brush and actually resent them in their non-SP life...
With that said, good luck to you, your thread, and your poll - you might be in for ride!
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This topic has been done to death and there are quickly going to be harsh opinions on both sides of the issue (racism versus "statistics"/personal preferences), but I walk the middle ground: providers have the right to establish whatever safeguards might help protect their person/identity in this risky business, but I sincerely hope they do not cast all peoples with the same brush and actually resent them in their non-SP life...
With that said, good luck to you, your thread, and your poll - you might be in for ride!
opcorn:It's impossible to say whether the restriction is due to past experiences, attraction, or flat out racism, but I seriously doubt it's the latter. Most likely case is they had a few bad experiences with people of a certain ethnic background and that was that. They may be avoiding people of their own race in some cases, often in Asian providers. It could also be they are just not attracted to a certain ethnic background. I don't see girls from certain backgrounds because there is no attraction there, doesn't make it racist. For me, it's no different from not wanting to see obese men. If it's something the girls aren't comfortable with, they have the right to not engage in it. It wouldn't prevent me from booking with a girl unless she specifically restricted my ethnic background.
I can understand why people don't like it, but I don't think it's that big of a red flag.
I can understand why people don't like it, but I don't think it's that big of a red flag.
Black male here. First off, this is a business for her - it's not about attraction. So comparing it to you not seeing girls of a certain race isn't valid. It doesn't mean that all girls who have this restriction are racist, but most certainly some are.
We're not talking about opening up a mom and pop shop. The girl is deciding who she will fuck. We can live in a fantasy land where it is a 'business' where everyone gets the same thing for the same price, but I prefer to live in reality. There is wiggle room for restricting who she offers her services to. I do think that restrictions against blacks are unusually high, but to say that it is not about attraction is a bit out there for me.
We have been trough this topic before. Everyone has personal preferences and as the SP is providing an intimate service - I respect (not necessarily endorse) her choice. I don't have a problem with skin colour but I am turned off by fat. I am excising my preference on my side of the transaction - why can't she exercise her preference ?
Some of the girls with this restriction are pimped out by black guys and it's those pimps that insist that she not see black clients.
I'm sure that's true for some, which is why I said that not all girls with this restriction are racist. Of course girls have the right to see whoever they want, but that doesn't mean that she can't be racist.
The attraction and preference thing goes out the window immediately because if you think SPs are attracted to most of the guys they see then I have The Toronto bridge for sale.
If you can make the leap from 'no attraction towards a certain ethnic background' to being equated to 'attraction to every other client', then it appears you can jump far enough to never need a bridge in the first place.
Please do explain how one can not be 'attracted' to EVERY single person of a particular race as if they all look similar in features, hair texture and skin colour.
You see, I do have plenty experience in this with a lot of women you may wish to get your white knight (no pun intended) on for. A few have not been attracted to 'black' men only to gush over guys they only learn later on are actually 'black'. They then throw up in their mouth at the notion that they have just laid down with said 'black' man.
What's that they say about perception and reality?
Ahh Nicole Aniston. Someone I actually know as well. I remember she didn't want to do an IR scene, citing her racist father as a reason. Not sure how true that was. I didn't care to ask her. She eventually did the IR scene though...cornrows/brains and all.
Will do: It is possible one would not be 'attracted' to EVERY single person of a particular race, based on similarities in features, hair texture and skin colour.
That was hard. Thanks for the challenge.
If a girl learns that a guy is black after fucking them, then either: 1) that guy does not look black, so a lack of attraction towards black are irrelevant, or 2) the girl is colour-blind and/or mentally retarded.
I'm gonna go ahead and call bullshit on these 'plenty' of experiences you've had.
If you actually have qualms about a pornstar who did perform an IR scene despite racist objections from her immediate family, I'm not sure you're capable of having an unbiased, rational discussion on this topic.
My comment suggests nothing of the sort. I know countless of women in not only this escorting business world wide but also Adult modelling (mainly USA, Canada, Russia, Czech Rep, Hungary and the UK). I base my comments on their opinions and what I've been told about clients. I'm not a woman so my opinion on what a guy looks or acts (behaviour is after all important) like is not important.
I remember doing work for 2 ladies years ago who had a no black policy based on one incident each. They each ended up being assaulted by multiple White men after that. A no White policy wasn't erected thereafter. Make of that what you will. Money talks, bullshit walks.
If ladies had issues with thugs and thug style dressing they would just say that, or they should. To conflate thug with black would only prove racist, no? But it has been proven time and time again, no matter how much education and stature a black man acquires, he'll forever remain a n___ to others and not worthy (of being a doctor, for example) to even some of his own people. That is just part and parcel of life.
PS: Are you sure you remember me though?
Fuck me, that's a pessimistic world view if I've ever seen one. I'm gonna bow out of this one, I don't see this going anywhere productive.
I asked you to explain. You didn't, thus you failed the so called challenge.
Call bull shit all you want. If Kathleen remembers me like she stated then she knows that I would have gained this experienced. And there you go not knowing that black people come in all different shades. Remember, it's not black people who made the rules on who can be called black and who can't. One drop rule, anyone? Jennifer Beals is considered black. Same with Mariah Carey.
And if someone doesn't look 'black' are they black? Should the male version of a Jennifer Beals disclose to that he has a black or black biracial parent? Or should he just be tight lipped and steal a poke or two? So what should the policy state "No black gentlemen of Yaphet Kotto to Obama vintage. Vin Diesel vintage is fine."? Remember now that we're working off the One Drop rule. No dark skin and nappy haired men? This is to allow the Indian/South East Asian guys who may be way darker than than a lot of this nappy haired black guys to come through.
Ah yes, race - the social construct.
I'm guessing reading comprehension isn't something you're familiar with. In no way I have qualms about that. I like Nicole and always have, so I won't bother spending time addressing it.
Statistically speaking, she may have a reason for such a restriction.
That said, I feel bad for all the upstanding black gents who are negatively affected by other members of their race, just as I feel bad for the moral members of any group when some bad apples give them a shitty name.
Normally I'd say that any working person has the obligation to treat all customers the same, regardless of race, sex, age, etc. But considering the industry is highly personal and the security issues involved...no, such a restriction does not make me rethink seeing her.
That said, I feel bad for all the upstanding black gents who are negatively affected by other members of their race, just as I feel bad for the moral members of any group when some bad apples give them a shitty name.
Normally I'd say that any working person has the obligation to treat all customers the same, regardless of race, sex, age, etc. But considering the industry is highly personal and the security issues involved...no, such a restriction does not make me rethink seeing her.
