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Do you support extortion?
- Thread starter fuji
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Sheik said:
This thread, taken on it's OWN merits, was discussing extortion which IS an illegal act. You or others may choose to view it differently, but that does not change the fact. And yeah, there's never been a misleading poll on TERB before, has there?
I stand by my 'defamation' comment. No one else is permitted to make such comments. I guess the rules are for others.
Sheik said:
Translation: It was not viewed as extortion by you and by the Hell's Angels. It was viewed as extortion by most everyone else, including an Ontario court judge. They had their day in court, and they lost, dude.
You and a few others posted that I did not speak for everyone when I said the average Canadian opposed the use of violence in a business transaction. The poll above is VERY clear on that point (or was until YOU added the ungrammatical weasel-word #3 answer--threatening WHAT???)
You said I was wrong about what the average person supports, and above you see the poll result is clear: YOU were wrong. The average person is against the use of violence in business. Plainly.
Please remove your #3 answer from my poll. I don't want it there. It doesn't make sense. It's your twisted attempt to undermine a poll that makes you uncomfortable.
Keep on pouring the kool-aid, Sheik.
First, I never threatened ANYONE with ANYTHING. I never demanded anything from the Brass Rail. I never asked them for anything. I simply said that I refused to do business with them, and I exposed their stupid practices in a thread for all to see.
I did contact some dancers that worked there that I wanted to see again and promise them a minimum amount of business if they would see me somewhere other than the Brass Rail.
How is that extortion? Did I threaten violence against anyone? No. For that matter, I didn't threaten ANYTHING. Perhaps they were harmed by what I did, but if so, they were harmed by wholly legal actions on my part: exposing them, luring away dancers, whatever. In any case, none of that was PHYSICAL VIOLENCE.
I am ALL IN FAVOUR of people making legal, non-violent threats to get their business done. Enticing people's employees away legally, filing law suits, exposing them publically, protesting agaisnt them, whatever. It's ALL GOOD.
What you fail to understand, what you haven't been able to learn, perhaps because of the way you were socialized or something, is that violence is different than all of the above. You do not see a difference between protesting against someones behavior, threatening to sue them, exposing their practices, etc., and punching them in the face. You think it's the same. The rest of us think threatening someone with physical harm in order to force completion of a business transaction is disgusting.
This is a "wedge issue", the thing is you honestly and sincerely DON'T GET IT, you don't understand that what you believe in, using violence and threatening to use violence, is viewed as disgusting by the rest of us. You think we just don't understand. But we do understand, we get it, we know that you, the HA, etc., advocate the use of violence, and we don't like that: You have been measured, and found wanting.
It's not that we don't understand.
We do.
You don't get it.
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Sheik said:
If you say something that is wrong many times, it is still wrong. It is not that Fuji and the rest of the board did not hear you all those numerous times, they do not agree with you. You have to make better points if you want to convince them, not just repeat it until they submit.
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