Even within the unknown you can operate using logic and reason to make progress and gain real knowledge because this universe obeys math and not movie scripts, the unknown is not a free pass to indulge in whacked-out shit. For instance, my first post in this thread in regards to the lower bound estimate of the size of the universe is based on math, the smallest universe that also looks flat to the observers inside is a toroid-shaped universe that is roughly 3x the size of the observable universe, there is a scientific paper on this. Our Space-time is very flat, a straightforward interpretation is that the universe is infinite in size, however, infinities do not exist in real life hence we expect the universe not to be infinite in size. With that said, I am sure in your universe infinities are all over the place and your model of the universe would not function without infinities.
Do We Live in a Multiverse?
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Even within the unknown you can operate using logic and reason to make progress and gain real knowledge because this universe obeys math and not movie scripts, the unknown is not a free pass to indulge in whacked-out shit. For instance, my first post in this thread in regards to the lower bound estimate of the size of the universe is based on math, the smallest universe that also looks flat to the observers inside is a toroid-shaped universe that is roughly 3x the size of the observable universe, there is a scientific paper on this. Our Space-time is very flat, a straightforward interpretation is that the universe is infinite in size, however, infinities do not exist in real life hence we expect the universe not to be infinite in size. With that said, I am sure in your universe infinities are all over the place and your model of the universe would not function without infinities.
String theory seems to make some sense. The universe is beyond our comprehension and may always remain so. We can discover certain aspects of it and have sensible theories only to have a new brilliant theory blow it apart. Theoretical physics will blow your mind
IMO the problem is that you are stuck in the science paradigm and can’t see your way out. Your thoughts and mind is in a box.
Its easy to recite and regurgutate science and apply it to every day problems. Many of us do that every day. We know the rules, play the game but we also know when and how to step outside after our job is done. We choose when to be in the box and assimilate with your kind, play your role and when to step out and explore ideas at will. Your type can’t because it feels like a fraud and has their identity and ego associated with it.
Everyone knows these basic facts that can be quickly pulled up about the universe and nobody sane is disputing that and the physical reality. Majority of terb has some type of masters degree anyways and needed to pass these bullshit facts. Not that hard actually. The question is what are you bringing that we can’t read in a book, hear in a lecture outside the box or in some YouTube video? You know your own insights, opinions outside your holly book of science.
Problem with people with your mindset is that they only think inside the box and can’t see beyond it which significantly regresses progress, brings about all these unnecessary steps, red tape and contributes to societal collapse.
Nikola Tesla said “The day science begins to study non-physical phenomena, it will make more progress in one decade than in all the previous centuries of its existence.”
It’s unfortunate that people like you are regressing science and advancements due to your dogma and paradigm lock.
Hopefully one day you will understand the limitations of science and it’s potential.
Good thing people like Elon understand the limitations of these types of individuals and have found a way to innovate and accelerate progress to make humanity multi planetary and not debate some facts that have been debated a thousand different times.
At the end of this year the James Webb space telescope should launch, it can image the atmosphere of planets orbiting nearby stars, IMHO it is our best shot thus far at finding intelligent life. To you, that is not worth shit because it does not fit into your little box of new-age batshit crazy, but I very much look forward to the observations; even if we find jack shit it is still a useful datapoint.
In theory, we can detect the gravitational wave caused by the start of our universe, much in the same way that the cosmic microwave background is an image of our universe at a very early age. I think we now have 3 gravitational wave detectors spread around the globe that regularly detect the gravitational waves caused by massive objects billions of light-years away. Imagine being to get data from the instant of the start of the universe, what wondrous things we may find, but it does not fit into your box of batshit crazy and so it is worth shitall to you.
I am excited about James Webb and have been anticipating it’s launch ever since it’s announcement. It think it will be great progress and brings great potential to study these planets and objects and gather all this data and widen our understanding. it’s the interpretation of this data I will be most curious about for all sides and spectrums.
BTW there was a movie made related to the James Webb which I am sure you’ll “love” ...
