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Divorce Allimony when does it stop

aznguy99

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I am a huge fan of 21/2 men, and in the show,

Allan always mentions that he will no longer need to pay allimony to his wife, if she re-marries, is that how this works in Canada as well??
 

rgkv

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It's very complicated....the law never clearly answered that question....if married 5 years or less, no spousal support.....5-10 years thats around how long you pay....after that it's sorta foggy, I was married 11 years, I pay spousal support for life, at least till I retire and live on Canada Pension and then I can ask the courts to look at the finacial picture again, they will then either adjust or stop it, I have looked hard and long but find no other way out,,,,,lawyer did say if I wait 10 years [3 more LOL] I can go back and try to fight it,,,,,course lawyer costs 5 grand and if I win....might have to wait for the pension check to arrive

Yes....or unless she remarries...but why would they do that....when the ckecks in the mail...and the males in check...
 

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It's very complicated....the law never clearly answered that question....if married 5 years or less, no spousal support.....5-10 years thats around how long you pay....after that it's sorta foggy, I was married 11 years, I pay spousal support for life, at least till I retire and live on Canada Pension and then I can ask the courts to look at the finacial picture again, they will then either adjust or stop it, I have looked hard and long but find no other way out,,,,,lawyer did say if I wait 10 years [3 more LOL] I can go back and try to fight it,,,,,course lawyer costs 5 grand and if I win....might have to wait for the pension check to arrive

Yes....or unless she remarries...but why would they do that....when the ckecks in the mail...and the males in check...

That seems grossly unfair. Is that usual in Canada? And what if she moves in with someone?

and in my case it's not alimony, it's his Freedom-Installment-Plan. :p
 

LateIAM

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A wife sounds like a life long prostitute, that won't necessarily fuck you once you're married, and can walk out half way through the session, but you still have to pay her for the "life long" part.

And they ask us why we're afraid of commitment.

I'm going to marry a girl that makes more money then me. That's my plan :]
 

rgkv

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spousal support is supposed to apply equaly, who ever makes the most, be it male or female would pay....ya right!!!
 

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A buddy of mine has been researching this recently.
He has been married around 12 years with 2 kids and she has never worked.
He told me that child support depends on how long the kids go to school so could be 18 plus 4 or 5 more years.
He says he will have to give her half of their assets and pay her alimony for 6 years.
 

Aardvark154

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I was married 11 years, I pay spousal support for life, at least till I retire and live on Canada Pension and then I can ask the courts to look at the finacial picture again, they will then either adjust or stop it.
Canada is regressive in this area of the law. In both the U.S. and in the U.K. (both England and Scotland) lifelong alimony is almost never the case this day and age.

And yes, you are right that it is complicated.
 

rgkv

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worse thing for me was the "wife" showed up in court with a letter from her shrink saying she was now cronick depressive and would be unable to work......now even after waiting the 10 years it is unlikely the judge would let me off....the goverment dosn't want to support her ...
 

tboy

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not that I've ever been through the ringer, thank god for small miracles, but yeah, the way the system is set up there is NO reason for a woman to get remarried. She can live commonlaw or date for the rest of her life and be sitting pretty. Not to diminish the "value" of her raising the kids, or keeping the home etc but lifelong support should be stopped. Give a woman a certain amount of time to get back on her feet, get herself a job or whatever, but really, we have no problem paying people NOT to work so why would spousal support be any different?

All the horror stories I've heard about marriages falling apart (even when the woman commits the adultery) and the husbands get screwed makes me thankful that I never married.......
 

mandrill

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spousal support is almost incomprehensively complicated even to the Family Law Bar and there is almost nothing useful I can say without knowing the entire details of you and your ex's respective lives. Basically, support is awarded in a handful of circumstances - 1. If you have lived together for so long that your financial affairs are so intertwined that it would be unfair to pry her away and expect her to be independent of you; 2. If she became disabled during the marriage and can now not work - Hence, the notorious "I am her shrink and she is depressed and cannot work" letter; 3. She worked her ass off to put you through Med School (you ungrateful prick!) and now she should get a slice of your Good Times. 4. She stayed home to take care of the rugrats while you became a rich SoB and now she needs help or she will be working at WalMart.

Duration and quantum can vary. In a long term marriage, she gets the much-despised "Lifetime Pension" because she is probably so fucked career-wise that she sinks without it. For short and medium terms marriages, she gets enough $$ so she can go back to school and get re qualified or otherwise get into the work force. Of course, if she is taking care of your 5 pre teen children, no judge will make her go back to work and so you will be eating Kraft Dinner for a few more years.

Hope this helps a little. It's a Byzantine area of the law.
 

Aardvark154

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I know a lawyer who got divorced. Believe it or not, he didn't have a pre-nuptial agreement. He joked that if he amortized the cost of his divorce by the # of fucks during that marriage, it would've been cheaper to have had escorts.

p.s. Btw, I still believe in having a soul mate or a life partner.
It wasn't me, but it very well could have been. Including your p.s.
 

fmahovalich

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Of course there will be support payments...The higher wage earner paying the lessor one.

In my case, she makes more than I do....so I WOULD GET PAID..

YEE HAW!!!!
 

Cassini

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Duration and quantum can vary. In a long term marriage, she gets the much-despised "Lifetime Pension" because she is probably so fucked career-wise that she sinks without it.
There is a rule that deals with retirement age minus the number of years of marriage. Essentially, if she is older than 65 - x, x being the number of years of marriage, you might have to pay long term support endlessly.

As such, for the guy, you should never marry an older woman. It is financial suicide.

Also, if you think your new wife might be coming down with a long-term illness, you should divorce her immediately. It is better to claim the marriage is a mistake, than to support her through a long term illness. Support is counted against you in court.

If anyone actually thought about what some of the regulations in the laws and regulations actually said, they would quickly realize that the divorce system has some truly perverse incentives. Essentially, it encourages early break ups, discourages long-term marriages, discourages new relationships after divorce, and discourages new fathers from fathering someone elses children.
 

Don Draper

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all the horror stories i've heard about marriages falling apart (even when the woman commits the adultery) and the husbands get screwed makes me thankful that i never married.......


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My spousal support agreement clearly states that any it has to reviewed each year and if there is a substantial change in either party's income it can be adjusted. If the wife, who I'm paying, should remarry or cohabit with another person this will be considered a material change in the agreement entitling me the husband to seek a variation. I've offered to buy the ring for new boyfriend, I would be cheaper.
KG
 

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My spousal support agreement clearly states that any it has to reviewed each year and if there is a substantial change in either party's income it can be adjusted. If the wife, who I'm paying, should remarry or cohabit with another person this will be considered a material change in the agreement entitling me the husband to seek a variation. I've offered to buy the ring for new boyfriend, I would be cheaper.
KG
from what I understand of legalise is that just because you can ask for a review but that doesn't mean it will happen. As with prenupts signed in good faith and agreed to by both parties before the wedding, they can be overturned at the whim of a judge........
 
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