Now, I don't have any kids but I was wondering if you people thought that using forces of physical violence on your children for disciplinary measures is okay?
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Before you touch (or yell) at a child, please educate yourself on the legal definition of child abuse. Visit the Ministry of Children and Youth Services website.
Like http://www.gov.on.ca/children/graphics/stel02_179889.pdf.Rockslinger said:
It seems people who feel the child is suffering physical or emotional harm (or likely to suffer out of sight) have a duty to report.
So, it would depend on what I witnessed, and my reasonable judgement.
Having a parent raise their voice at a child for misconduct is not a big deal to me. Not normally reportable.
If I saw someone hauling a kid by the arm to have a sidebar discussion on his behaviour, that's fair game.
For slapping, doesn't sound good on paper. Depends on what I saw, and whether I felt their was real physical or emotional harm.
There should be discipline(not physical abuse) at times...otherwise your kid is going to step all over you.
Remember the skit from Russell Peters...sure let your kid swear and abuse you, just becuase your afraid of discipline on them.
Remember the skit from Russell Peters...sure let your kid swear and abuse you, just becuase your afraid of discipline on them.
I think that on some occasions it is appropriate to intentionally inflict pain on your children, if their behaviour warrants it. I have several kids, only one have I ever inflicted pain on intentionally, and I feel that it was the right choice. Some people do not respect reason, and you have to communicate with them in a way that they understand. Once they are old enough to understand, when you feel that they understand the choices they made. I never struck a child, it was more a matter of increasing the pressure until they submitted.
I'm not a parent -- thank god -- so my answers are only theoretical.
But I don't think that physical discipline is required nor efficient in most cases. There are many other ways to punish and/or discipline a kid when needed.
That being said, I was slapped a few times when I was a kid, and even spanked a few times. I'm not sure how efficient it was, but I know for sure that I was not 'abused' by my parents. And I think I turned out a pretty well adjusted grown up.
But I don't think that physical discipline is required nor efficient in most cases. There are many other ways to punish and/or discipline a kid when needed.
That being said, I was slapped a few times when I was a kid, and even spanked a few times. I'm not sure how efficient it was, but I know for sure that I was not 'abused' by my parents. And I think I turned out a pretty well adjusted grown up.
If a parent resorts to violence to teach discipline, it is wrong. I am not a parent, but kids will be kids. Please try to have the patience to talk to your kids.EntertainmentMan2000 said:
I am a parent of three children- 2 girls and a boy. My youngest is almost a teenager... she'll be 13 later this year. Fortunately they are rather well adjusted. They are not without their behavioral problems of course, but for the most part pretty much do their chores, finish their homework, keep their personal spaces tidy, and don't get into trouble with authority figures. I like to think that we as parents had a little something to do with that. I sincerely can't remember if we ever resorted to physical discipline, but the "threat" of it was certainly required on occasion. 
Now that they are older, we find the suspending of privileges a much more effective tool for discipline. Some one mentioned grounding... that works! Also suspension of internet privileges, TV privileges, and telephone usage, video game suspension is also of particular effectiveness especially for my son!
Having said this, the most effective tool we as parents can use is communication! As parents we need to explain to our children the concept of responsibilities, respect and cause and effect.
It is my feeling that our society places far too much emphasis on rights, and not nearly enough attention on responsibility.
Just my nickels worth...
Now that they are older, we find the suspending of privileges a much more effective tool for discipline. Some one mentioned grounding... that works! Also suspension of internet privileges, TV privileges, and telephone usage, video game suspension is also of particular effectiveness especially for my son!
Having said this, the most effective tool we as parents can use is communication! As parents we need to explain to our children the concept of responsibilities, respect and cause and effect.
It is my feeling that our society places far too much emphasis on rights, and not nearly enough attention on responsibility.
Just my nickels worth...
I couldn't have said it better C-G ... I think that as long as your kids know that they are loved unconditionally, and you communicate with them openly and honestly about your expectations, more often than not, they will turn out to be well-adjusted adults. For the record, I was smacked around a few times as a child, and having been on the receiving end, I would never do that to my kids -- though at times, I was very tempted! In my opinion, violence is not the answer! Except perhaps in legitimate self-defense ... I did turn on my mother one day, and she never smacked me again!Cycleguy007 said:
I was a stepfather for over 10 years and never had to lay a hand on him ever.I always treated him as an adult and let him make his own decisions but also let him know what the consequences of his actions were first. I taught him the difference between right and wrong and always let him learn. I found that i also learned a few things along the way as " A mind is like a parachute , it only works when it is open". I taught him what i knew and learned thing form him as well. Even though I am no longer with his mother ( divorced her ass , thank god ) to this day we still keep in contact and am a better person for it.
Kids are an open book please think about what you are writing in it.
Kids are an open book please think about what you are writing in it.
When I have kids I'm going to do whatever it takes to make them good productive obedient God fearing citizens. They step out of line, I'll just use my belt. Brick. Baseball bat. Whatever is within arm's reach. As my Old Man once told me as he was beating the shit out of me, "you're either going to get it in here, or you're going to get it out there."
I sure hope you're kidding shaun... If you're not, come speak to us again when you DO become a father and hold that little baby in your arms and nurture him or her, watching all those "first's" (first word, first step, first time saying "I love you daddy", first day of school, first first time riding a bike etc.) and watch them develop into little boys or girls and then teenagers...Shaunhorny said:
Yes parenthood can be a challenge, but, and I speak from experience, the good times FAR outweigh those times when they piss you off to no end...
Maybe, just maybe, you will think a little differently then.
lol ... I think this might just explain some of Shaun's endearing personality traitsShaunhorny said:
Remember that guy in Singapore who was caned for vandalizing some cars? The Western world was shocked and called Singapore barbaric. Do you know that Singapore is virtually crime free?wetnose said:
I have 2 kids, and I have spanked a total of 3 times ever. In each case, it was when the child put themselves in immediate physical danger, and only after other types of discipline did not work. The spank did the trick, as it was something that was never used, or threatened to be used. They knew immediately that the actions that were taken that lead to the spanking would not be tolerated. And yes, I felt REALLY bad doing it.
Make no mistake, it was not a beating, 2 spanks on a bare bum was all.
Make no mistake, it was not a beating, 2 spanks on a bare bum was all.
