Dinner dates with SPs?

[VinnyBuff]

Really?

I guess I'm extremely lucky because even before I started working as an escort, I was never desperate or starved enough that my only ticket to a meal was to entertain some random man over dinner. Which I assume is the reason why you believe that "just about any woman" would go on a dinner date "for free" with any guy who pay for their meal?

Uh, just about any guy (even MLAM) can get the hottest girl to go to a fancy dinner with them at an expensive restaurant, if the guy pays for the girl's meal, and *gasp* 99% of the time they probably wouldn't have to pay the girl an hourly fee to eat her steak and lobster.

I respect your opinion though, I just disagree.

 

[RTRD]

I bet...

Uh, just about any guy (even MLAM) can get the hottest girl to go to a fancy dinner with them at an expensive restaurant, if the guy pays for the girl's meal, and *gasp* 99% of the time they probably wouldn't have to pay the girl an hourly fee to eat her steak and lobster.

I respect your opinion though, I just disagree.

...you say "uh" a lot, don't you?

I will kinda agree with you on one point..."girls" who think that being the "hottest" is critical to their self identity are pretty easy to manipulate. They typically are impressed by things like how much money a guy has, and the prices on the menu.

These would but two of the reasons why I don't bother with girls who are self absorbed and less than bright.

On the other hand, if your own self identity can be summed up with the phrase Vinny Buff" I suppose your choices would be both limited in your ability to parse them and execute.

In other (and simpler) words...birds of a feather....

 

[VinnyBuff]

...you say "uh" a lot, don't you?

I will kinda agree with you on one point..."girls" who think that being the "hottest" is critical to their self identity are pretty easy to manipulate. They typically are impressed by things like how much money a guy has, and the prices on the menu.

These would but two of the reasons why I don't bother with girls who are self absorbed and less than bright.

On the other hand, if your own self identity can be summed up with the phrase Vinny Buff" I suppose your choices would be both limited in your ability to parse them and execute.

In other (and simpler) words...birds of a feather....

ok MLAM, continue to be a "big" man and pay girls $200 an hour to eat with you, who am I to judge what you do with your money?

 

[RTRD]

Nope...

ok MLAM, continue to be a "big" man and pay girls $200 an hour to eat with you, who am I to judge what you do with your money

...never have. But, I can't say I've never had dinner with an escort, so you've got me there...

For the record, I wouldn't be inclined to pay someone to have dinner with me either.

But the idea that all (or 99%) women in the world are so desperate and hard up that they will go out with any guy (even me) just to get a free meal is a reflection on the type of girls you typically spend time with.

The type of women I typically spend time with consider their time their most valuable resource, and can afford to buy their own meal, and accordingly would never do such a thing...

But, like I said....birds of a feather....

 

[a 1 player]

I guess there is a difference of opinion here. As for me, I usually don't have problems getting dates, so having a meal with a pretty woman is not a very difficult thing for me to do. Having her interest me for long enough to become 'interested' in her is a bit more of a challenge. But then again, that is not really what we are talking about here.

I don't mean to say that I am all that, but in my experience, there are not too many 'real, honest, down-to-earth, genuine, like me for who I am" people out there. Maybe it is where I am looking, but again, there seems to be an over abundance of shallow people everywhere, both men and women. It just takes a bit for their true colors to come out.

 

[VinnyBuff]

...never have. But, I can't say I've never had dinner with an escort, so you've got me there..

For the record, I wouldn't be inclined to pay someone to have dinner with me either.

But the idea that all (or 99%) women in the world are so desperate and hard up that they will go out with any guy (even me) just to get a free meal is a reflection on the type of girls you typically spend time with.

The type of women I typically spend time with consider their time their most valuable resource, and can afford to buy their own meal, and accordingly would never do such a thing...

But, like I said....birds of a feather....

Women like money and a man's resources as much as men like youth and beauty, it's hard wired into our genes. I'm guessing that the women that you typically hang out with are pretty manly, just an educated guess. You stick with your masculine women, and I'll stick with my feminine women.

 

[RTRD]

If...

Women like money and a man's resources as much as men like youth and beauty, it's hard wired into our genes. I'm guessing that the women that you typically hang out with are pretty manly, just an educated guess. You stick with your masculine women, and I'll stick with my feminine women.

...being intelligent and having your own money can be defined as "masculine", then you are absolute right Vincent.

So yes, I'll stick with my masculine women, and you keep pursuing that Ph.d in genetics....

"educated guess"....LOL!!!

 

[RTRD]

Ain't....

I don't mean to say that I am all that, but in my experience, there are not too many 'real, honest, down-to-earth, genuine, like me for who I am" people out there. Maybe it is where I am looking, but again, there seems to be an over abundance of shallow people everywhere, both men and women. It just takes a bit for their true colors to come out.

...that the truth.

 

[VinnyBuff]

...being intelligent and having your own money can be defined as "masculine", then you are absolute right Vincent.

So yes, I'll stick with my masculine women, and you keep pursuing that Ph.d in genetics....

"educated guess"....LOL!!!

You called me Vincent, how cute.

 

[RTRD]

I guess...

You called me Vincent, how cute.

...you like a bit of a masculine streak as well it seems.

I'm a big man Vincent...you sure I'm your type?

 

[drlove]

Face it, Toronto is a cold city, and by that, I mean that its people aren't that friendly.

I don't know about that. Every time I've been to Toronto, I've found everyone to be very friendly, polite and considerate. Maybe I'm just one of the lucky ones...

 

[genintoronto]

Women like money and a man's resources as much as men like youth and beauty, it's hard wired into our genes. I'm guessing that the women that you typically hang out with are pretty manly, just an educated guess. You stick with your masculine women, and I'll stick with my feminine women.

Isn't it convenient how "genetics" and/or god is commonly used to support one's prejudices?

I guess I'm a manly woman since I'd take a cheap meal with friends or someone I truly care about anytime over an expensive "free" meal at a fancy restaurant with some random man.

 

[a 1 player]

Isn't it convenient how "genetics" and/or god is commonly used to support one's prejudices?

Well said.

 

[MuffinMuncher]

I've been on about 472 dinner-dates with SPs, approximately 8% of them on the clock.

Exactly. Why do most of you assume that a dinner date is always on the clock? I've gone to dinner with plenty of girls in the business, and most of the time all it takes is some prior familiarity and a "would you like to go to dinner next time"?

Sure, if you arrange it through an agency, then you are paying for the opportunity to see the girl eat - the agency makes money on billable hours, and they dont care if the girl is naked or dressed, eating or fucking.

But independents and non-pros, they can make their own hours and rules. The smart ones see it as marketing and networking.

 

[Shaunhorny]

Let's get some things out of the way:

1) I'm not talking about dinner dates "off the clock". Have I or would I ask an SP that I enjoyed out for no-compensation dinner, just like I would with any ordinary friend? Yes. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm referring ONLY to on the clock dinner dates.

2) I'm not judging anybody. I'm inquiring. I want to learn. To me it makes little sense. I don't agree completely with Vinny that "any" girl will go out on a dinner date if a guy is paying. But the gist of what he is saying is true: a reasonable guy who asks a reasonable woman if she'd like to have lunch, chat, and it's on him, nothing more - no sex - then many decent women would be fine with it (provided that they're not in a relationship with somebody).

3) My question has nothing to do with youth. Having eye candy hanging off your arms isn't just a youthful scenario. Take a trip to New York's posh nightclubs any day of the week. It's chock-full of wealthy middle-aged men with one or more 20 year old "girlfriends" hanging on their sleeves.

4) If you think a dinner date with an SP is some type of substitution for shallow real dates, I don't understand the logic. The SP dinner date is even more shallow. It's not real at all. They're there to entertain you and pretend that they care about what you're saying. With a real date, at least you can get up and leave without having lost over $200.

5) Toronto is not a cold city. It's one of the friendliest large cities around. NY is a cold city.

 

[cute-bald]

I would like ....

a dinner date with an escort if it was like $50/ hr. during the social period & 2 hrs intimate at regular rate.

 

[alexmst]

I've had an SP take ME out for a dinner date...and on her time, as well. Life is good.

+1 - me too.

 

[OnTheWayOut]

I've had an SP take ME out for a dinner date...and on her time, as well. Life is good.

Me too ...... more than once (4 diff SPs) and sometimes 2 SP at the same dinner splitting the bill between them. It pays to be a nice guy sometimes.

But now that I read the entire thread I see this doesn't count. I've never taken an SP on a dinner date while paying her, they were all "off the clock". And they were all asians ..... guess they like to feed caucasian guys