Decriminalization, legalization, and prohibition of prostitution

[HaywoodJabloemy]

I thought I would start a new thread with a more appropriate title, since the subject of reforming prostitution laws arose as a side issue in these other threads.
https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=69390&perpage=9&pagenumber=4

https://terb.cc/vbulletin/showthread.php?threadid=70925&perpage=9&pagenumber=3

I assumed most people would favour decriminalization, and no one on this board would favour prohibition. Apparently I was wrong.

...Canada remains with a system very comparable to the rest of the world. And in countries such as Australia and New Zealand, the experiment with legalized brothels etc. has proven to be even worse than the system that preceded it.
The country with the most success is Sweden where prostitutes are not charged at all. The customers,however,are charged and can face serious sentences.

Why would you say Australia & New Zealand were a failed "experiment" and Sweden was a success? You must be joking!

It`s been 20 years since the state of Victoria let the MPs legally call themselves brothels. Their initial mistake was being far too strict in their regulations about granting brothel licences, and limiting the numbers to far too few to meet the demand.

"Worse than the system that preceded it"? If you believe that, then why have most of the rest of the Australian states and territories, and New Zealand, subsequently chosen to allow brothels, and now still do so? Why have none of these jurisdictions returned to prohibition?

And Sweden a success? What phony lying jackass told you that? They are the country that created a system worse than the one which preceded it. Here`s a quote from the website of Sue Bradford, a New Zealand Member of Parliament, talking about the bill which would decriminalize brothels in NZ a few months later.
http://www.greens.co.nz/searchdocs/speech6050.html

Nor should we turn to the Swedish model which prosecutes the men who pay for sex. The Swedish experience shows that all this does is drive prostitution underground. In the UK, laws criminalising the client have been tried for 17 years, and there is no sign whatsoever that prostitution is dying out, even though this is the main rationale for this type of law.

While on the Select Committee we heard evidence from a sex worker in Sweden who talked about the much greater physical dangers she and others now face as a result of the law change there. She reported that some of the worst consequences of the Swedish law have been that there is a lot more underage teenage prostitution, that the mafia bosses have more control, and that workers are too scared to get police help even when friends are murdered because if it gets out that they`ve called the cops, they lose all their customers.

Here`s two more items on how Sweden has successfully made life far more dangerous for SPs there.
http://www.petraostergren.com/english/studier.magister.asp

http://www.bayswan.org/swed/rosswed.html

 

[RogerRabbit]

Like gambling, the taxes would be significant if legalized...

It should be out in the open, for health/ stds and safety reasons alone.

 

[Bobzilla]

Don't mince words, Cute in a Kilt, what do you really think? LOL

 

[LarryLaffer]

I am aware of certain legal differences between "out call service" and in-call service" - from my understanding "out call" is essentially legal.

Recently an independent incall SP told me that incalls were viewed as legal if there was only one SP working at the location.
As soon as it turns into a business like Oasis or Friends then you could be in trouble but if you just run your own one person service you are OK.

Any thoughts, comments? Is this in fact the case?

 

[midLifeCrisis]

Recently an independent incall SP told me that incalls were viewed as legal if there was only one SP working at the location.

Wrong.

An incall is a common bawdy house.

The confusion may come from the '80's Federal/Provincial/Territorial Working Group on Prostitution, page 63, Current Interest in Decriminalization and Regulation

Federal Policy Paper
In 1985, the Fraser Committee noted that "if prostitution is a reality with which we have to deal for the forseeable future, then it is preferable that it take place, as far as possible in private, and without the opportunities for exploitation which have been traditionally associated with commercialized prostitution". To this end, the Committee recommended that the bawdy-house provisions of the Criminal Code be amended to allow one or two prostitutes to work out of private residences. The Government of the day did not act upon this recommendation.

Mind you, a girl operating a small-scale, discreet incall is unlikely to attract police attention ... but that's not the same thing.

 

[langeweile]

I have lived in Holland and Germany. In both countries prostitution is legal.
In Germany Sp's have to go to a medical check up in order to practice. Usually street prostitution is limited to a certain part of the city in a closed up area (in my hometown anyway). Incalls are permitted pending on the city you live in. Not sure about outcall.

I haven't been to any SP in Germany since about 20 years or so, some things might have changed.


Holland has established an SP drive in!!! You pick up the girl drive her to the place and go on with your business.
It has several parking spots and they are divided with screens, so you can't see who is next to you.
It was done to prevent people from having sex in cars in just any place...LOL

 

[Annessa]

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[langeweile]

The whole issue is just silly. SP's do more good than harm IMHO. The aura of illegality needs to stop.