Dating vs Hobbying Efficiency/Pros, Cons/Preferences.

[xyzhunt1990]

Would like to get people's experiences on what they prefer more, why, and the pros and cons of both based on their individual experiences and what they've learned about themselves as result, if they are ok to share.

Avoid too much exaggeration if possible.

 

[escortsxxx]

Would like to get people's experiences on what they prefer more, why, and the pros and cons of both based on their individual experiences and what they've learned about themselves as result, if they are ok to share.

Avoid too much exaggeration if possible.

In the modern era it's hard to say. The last 5 or 6 years texting Culture has made the industy much worse. Sam can we set for dating but with dating you can still pick up the old way.. And Not texting is a big plus.
Toronto's prices have matchednew york. its far Cheaper now for the upper end tobook of la flihgt and go elsewhere. But that also applies for dating. It's basically not that much more expensive But the girls wanna watch more friendly say in Montreal than here. Are the girls i have dated and enjoyef none of them I have lived long in the city more than a few months. Toronto seems to Destroy female dating culture.

 

[xix]

Before Covid it was know that SP had issues.
But now I have seen regular women civics show their issues. I think SP have better issues than Civics.

I rather put up with the illusion of nicety for a session/hour than 3-8 months ( some more like 3 years of hell) and been with a whiny psychological post lost souls. This is bad energy to me, which will follow me into the next life. No way.
IT cost more to cleanse /detox my soul from civics that than seeing an SP for an hour.

 

[xyzhunt1990]

I personally prefer hobbying. Being single, keeping your money to yourself, having the freedom while fucking hot chicks that you choose to spend on is fine by me!

Would you say, that the effort it takes to get equivalent civilian women for casual sex is too much hassle?

 

[xyzhunt1990]

Before Covid it was know that SP had issues.
But now I have seen regular women civics show their issues. I think SP have better issues than Civics.

I rather put up with the illusion of nicety for a session/hour than 3-8 months ( some more like 3 years of hell) and been with a whiny psychological post lost souls. This is bad energy to me, which will follow me into the next life. No way.
IT cost more to cleanse /detox my soul from civics that than seeing an SP for an hour.

I think the hour you get with SP's is actually maybe a blessing. I find as soon I get to know them personally just bit, I lose interest pretty quick, due to all the baggage.

 

[NotADcotor]

A lot depend on the dude of course. I knew a guy, his brother was a panty dropper, numbers would fly at him unasked. Dating would be easier and if he chose cheaper.
If you happen to be a fugly soggoth who also lacks wealth, dating is a pit of pure hell. What the guys like him can do and get away with vs what I can do, is night and day, the slightest miss step and opps.

Also quite frankly, with SPs you don't have to deal with any of the crazy, the unreasonableness and bullshitery. Lets face it, if you are past 30 and not hooked up or married, there is something going on and it's probably not because he or she dedicated their lives to doctors without borders or ending gang violence in Mexico, and yes I resemble that remark.

 

[Jenesis]

I personally prefer hobbying. Being single, keeping your money to yourself, having the freedom while fucking hot chicks that you choose to spend on is fine by me!

Same. Except fucking guys of course.

I see no reason to give up an income that a man will not replace while dating but will expect me to quit working.

I see no reason to share my house, car, trailer, boat, bed sleeping, TV watching etc with a man when it is convenient to have all to myself.

I will cook and clean for myself but my personal dating has jaded me to men who expect me to do the same for them simply because I am a woman. I don’t play the “traditional gender role” game.

The industry as jaded me to monogamy.

I don’t have to deal abuses because I can screen. You can’t exactly get an ex GF reference for the new BF.

I don’t want to say that I will never date again but I probably will never date again. I’m happy single.

 

[jeff2]

Dating in Toronto or any metropolitan in a developed country is difficult nowadays. Women say they want equality but they ain't gonna date a broke guy (anything less than $2m in assets is considered average or so so...crazy times)..... women will dump men in a heartbeat if you suggest to go dutch on dinners; they want a guy who can provide, drives nice cars, open doors for them, listen to their daily shit, etc. Women want it all and they dont know what they really want. Many of them just want to be housewives to a rich guy but they won't say it as they don't really know that is ultimately what they want. Men get judged or dumped if your first date is to the cheesecake factory... really?!? Isn't that a fun date?

By the time women really know they want a nice guy, they are old and used.. and too late. LOL. Vicious cycle. Met a few gorgeous SPs that turned out like that.. now they have to work as escorts to survive as single mums as they went for the bad tough guy.

Hobbying is good as it avoids all this weird BS. But it's expensive. Thank God for men that we have sports like football

A lot of men die off trying to get and maintain women. The surviving men can take their pick in the nursing homes.

 

[Sonic Temple]

I stopped dating years ago - the minute I found this hobby lifestyle I have been much more happier - met great people and fully satisfied. The urge to date is not in the future in this phase of my life. Beautiful SPs have fulfilled my void and continue to do so. I have been fortunate to meet some wonderful SPs that are kind and have found new experiences with that know the roles of both parties, meaning that we are here for the same purpose - nothing more nothing less. Kindness and respect have been essential for me as I buried my dating lifestyle. Happy hobbyin' mates and remember to enjoy every FKN moment of these experiences.

 

[xyzhunt1990]

I stopped dating years ago - the minute I found this hobby lifestyle I have been much more happier - met great people and fully satisfied. The urge to date is not in the future in this phase of my life. Beautiful SPs have fulfilled my void and continue to do so. I have been fortunate to meet some wonderful SPs that are kind and have found new experiences with that know the roles of both parties, meaning that we are here for the same purpose - nothing more nothing less. Kindness and respect have been essential for me as I buried my dating lifestyle. Happy hobbyin' mates and remember to enjoy every FKN moment of these experiences.

What made you give up dating, I'm curious? I would love nothing more than to have 5-10 civilians reshuffled. I found most girls on average are not Into just casual sex, emphasize average, and sitting at a restaurant with a woman I know won't be around in a month or two listening to her yap about things I don't care about, well, is tantamount to torture for me.

 

[dvous11]

A little from column A, and little from column B.
Variety is the Spice of Life.

 

[xix]

I think the hour you get with SP's is actually maybe a blessing. I find as soon I get to know them personally just bit, I lose interest pretty quick, due to all the baggage.

That is why I don't repeat with same chic. Sooner or later she will spill or I would ask a stupid question about her personal life. That is why I stick to topics of weather and stories of funny clients they had. Travel and movie/books they like very simple topic.

Never ask where they see themselves in the future, because they don't where they were in the past 25 years or so.

 

[Chris2020]

That is why I don't repeat with same chic. Sooner or later she will spill or I would ask a stupid question about her personal life. That is why I stick to topics of weather and stories of funny clients they had. Travel and movie/books they like very simple topic.

Never ask where they see themselves in the future, because they don't where they were in the past 25 years or so.

I knew this girl on and off for a couple years but didn't really start seeing her and messaging her regularly till she broke up with her boyfriend earlier this year. But I completely agree with you, the more I began talking to her, the more red flags there were. We had a heavy makeout session in my car a couple months back and at this point she wanted to know if we were going to be in a relationship and I told her I want to take things slow and she said she was ok with it.

We met up a few weeks later and I realized something was off and then the messaging became less frequent to the point where she has stopped responding.

I said I want to take things slow because my gut was saying this girl was bad news and she wasn't trustworthy, the fact she ended up ghosting me later, she indirectly did me a favour.

 

[xyzhunt1990]

In my 20s


I knew this girl on and off for a couple years but didn't really start seeing her and messaging her regularly till she broke up with her boyfriend earlier this year. But I completely agree with you, the more I began talking to her, the more red flags there were. We had a heavy makeout session in my car a couple months back and at this point she wanted to know if we were going to be in a relationship and I told her I want to take things slow and she said she was ok with it.

We met up a few weeks later and I realized something was off and then the messaging became less frequent to the point where she has stopped responding.

I said I want to take things slow because my gut was saying this girl was bad news and she wasn't trustworthy, the fact she ended up ghosting me later, she indirectly did me a favour.

Blessing in disguise it sounds like.

 

[xyzhunt1990]

Dating in Toronto or any metropolitan in a developed country is difficult nowadays. Women say they want equality but they ain't gonna date a broke guy (anything less than $2m in assets is considered average or so so...crazy times)..... women will dump men in a heartbeat if you suggest to go dutch on dinners; they want a guy who can provide, drives nice cars, open doors for them, listen to their daily shit, etc. Women want it all and they dont know what they really want. Many of them just want to be housewives to a rich guy but they won't say it as they don't really know that is ultimately what they want. Men get judged or dumped if your first date is to the cheesecake factory... really?!? Isn't that a fun date?

By the time women really know they want a nice guy, they are old and used.. and too late. LOL. Vicious cycle. Met a few gorgeous SPs that turned out like that.. now they have to work as escorts to survive as single mums as they went for the bad tough guy.

Hobbying is good as it avoids all this weird BS. But it's expensive. Thank God for men that we have sports like football

2 million in assets. You can eliminate 85% of the population then.

 

[xyzhunt1990]

Dating in Toronto or any metropolitan in a developed country is difficult nowadays. Women say they want equality but they ain't gonna date a broke guy (anything less than $2m in assets is considered average or so so...crazy times)..... women will dump men in a heartbeat if you suggest to go dutch on dinners; they want a guy who can provide, drives nice cars, open doors for them, listen to their daily shit, etc. Women want it all and they dont know what they really want. Many of them just want to be housewives to a rich guy but they won't say it as they don't really know that is ultimately what they want. Men get judged or dumped if your first date is to the cheesecake factory... really?!? Isn't that a fun date?

By the time women really know they want a nice guy, they are old and used.. and too late. LOL. Vicious cycle. Met a few gorgeous SPs that turned out like that.. now they have to work as escorts to survive as single mums as they went for the bad tough guy.

Hobbying is good as it avoids all this weird BS. But it's expensive. Thank God for men that we have sports like football

If she says no to cheescake factory, she is history.

 

[Chris2020]

Blessing in disguise it sounds like.

To actually answer your question.

The best thing about an SP is the variety, ultimately for me when it came to my long term GFs, the sex got boring after a few months and it ended up becoming more of a chore to have sex with them then being enjoyable. In addition besides sex, the civ ic women (at least the ones I dated) didn't really have anything else to offer. Once the honeymoon phase was over, date nights either were going out to eat, watching Netflix and if the weather was good, go for a hike. But ultimately it became repetitive.

If you're looking to build a business or move up in your career, dating women long term can be a huge time suck of unproductivity.

Finally, I make 6 figures and own a condo and a lot of these women are:

- Making less than 6 figures
- Have a lot of debt (I work with a lot of women at my full time job and they always talk about their big credit card bills)
- Renting or living at home

Then if you date these women don't forget about spending tons of money on travelling and a wedding.

Ultimately your money becomes "Our" money and her money is "her" money.

In today's modern climate, ultimately you want to find a woman that you can have kids with but if things go sour then you got to fight for custody there too.

It's just not worth it.

 

[Sonic Temple]

What made you give up dating, I'm curious? I would love nothing more than to have 5-10 civilians reshuffled. I found most girls on average are not Into just casual sex, emphasize average, and sitting at a restaurant with a woman I know won't be around in a month or two listening to her yap about things I don't care about, well, is tantamount to torture for me.

The mere fact that I realized what I wanted and it was about a relationship - it was more about living life with a variety of experiences that wouldn't otherwise be possible if in a relationship. Now - don't get me wrong you can meet someone who shares the same belief but finding that person well - that's another timeline I didn't want to go down. I like the timeline I have now and the ability to explore with various SPs who are willing to help along the way.

 

[xyzhunt1990]

The mere fact that I realized what I wanted and it was about a relationship - it was more about living life with a variety of experiences that wouldn't otherwise be possible if in a relationship. Now - don't get me wrong you can meet someone who shares the same belief but finding that person well - that's another timeline I didn't want to go down. I like the timeline I have now and the ability to explore with various SPs who are willing to help along the way.

It's life saver that these options exist for us...Not all of us will have same opportunities when it comes to meeting women, so gives me peace of mind that this is available.

 

[xix]

To actually answer your question.


Finally, I make 6 figures and own a condo and a lot of these women are:

- Making less than 6 figures
- Have a lot of debt (I work with a lot of women at my full time job and they always talk about their big credit card bills)
- Renting or living at home

It's just not worth it.

Where do you work? because the place I work at it's the other way around. Fathers have their kids in their basement. Sons + 45 in the basement of their fathers. Some 29+ got the job because of father works there and went to private school now has blue collar job. Actually most men at my work place went to private school and end up with blue collar jobs. Can't be fate.

In the end women like the honeymoon phase ( do not call it hoe phase) as long as the men pay for it. If you want a balanced women with FWB make them pay their share and they will only stick around for 8 months. They start fights at 3 or 8 months, because they want to be dumped, to scared to move on on their own.

Use gf to learn massage.

Yeah SP is the way to go variety.