Class-action lawsuit again TTC Union

[emvee]

I'm hearing a lot of chatter of a class-action lawsuit again Bob Kinnear and the TTC union. Is it actually moving ahead?

Seems logical enough, party A did something illegal causing party B some financial loss.

 

[kooley]

couldnt see this one coming

 

[KBear]

Would be interesting if they could hold the individuals who are in the union personally liable. If they can, and are able to attack the union members assets, it will make people think twice before causing a disruption if they know it could cost them their house and/or income for the rest of their lives.

 

[The Bandit]

Where can I make my donation for support...I'd love to see the book thrown at them.
It always seems that the TTC, Teachers, CUPE, and Auto Unions always try to play strong-arm to get what they want...be it the legal or illegal way.

 

[tboy]

Well, if anyone finds out where we can donate I for one would give something.....I normally don't go for "causes" but this one I fully support.

I don't ride the TTC personally but to strike over something like this, is just utterly insane.

The time has come to teach these unions that they cannot hold us hostage everytime they have a beef with management. Now if the cause was the TTC laying off 1500 workers or removing seatbelts from the buses or reducing their pay by 50%, then I'd give them a little understanding but because X number of worker's job were being shifter to evenings?

This reminds me of when Chrysler was on the ropes and filed chapter 11. Lee Iacocca came in and finally got the plants open again by borrowing a ton of money from the government and doing everything to keep the company afloat. So what happens? THREE months after the plants open again the UAW goes on strike for more money....

 

[LancsLad]

I'm not sure since I'm no lawyer (thank God) , and I didn't stay in a Holiday Inn Express, but isn't there some provision in the Labour laws that protects a unions assets from liability due to their actions. I think this idea was tried before and failed on that basis.

 

[Esco!]

Let it go people

 

[ruck]

Let it go people

Why? You don't like people voicing their disdain for lousy union policies?

There's going to be nothing done about it. That's what burns my ass the most. All this talk will vanish like a fart in the wind.

 

[Esco!]

Why? You don't like people voicing their disdain for lousy union policies?

There's going to be nothing done about it. That's what burns my ass the most. All this talk will vanish like a fart in the wind.

Hey Ruck?????????????????
Wanna fight, you filthy bastard???????????????



*starts jumping up and down like a crazy bastard!!!!*

 

[tboy]

Well, first off they already have a court finding that it was an illegal strike and had the union not gone back to work when it did, the entire union could have been found in contempt of court and arrested. So right off the bat they have one strike against them.

Now since it was an illegal strike, it would be relatively easy to prove it was a breach of contract and I'm sure an estimate of the financial cost to the city and it's citizens would be simple to come up with.

 

[burlboy]

Class action??? That's pretty funny. It's tough enough getting a class action certified for "real" cases like widows and orphans getting screwed by Nortel's management.

Sure, you probably have a pretty good case for economic losses. But, you'd have a hell of time proving common liability issues. Moreover, what breach of contract could you plead? At best, you'd have to argue an implied contract of service; maybe a breach of good faith?

Good luck.

(Try Harvey Strosberg - rumour is that he will take any case for a LARGE contingency.)

Widows and Orphans were the most screwed by the illegal strike since they often don't have other means of transport. As for me I wouldn't mind being compensated for having to use one of my vacation days. Besides it's a great way to demonstrate the public opinion about the unions immature behavior.

 

[emvee]

There's going to be nothing done about it. That's what burns my ass the most. All this talk will vanish like a fart in the wind.

That's my fear too. So what's stopping them from doing it again? Or other unions doing the same thing?

 

[emvee]

Another Wildcat Strike on the TTC?

CITY tv at 6pm said there could be another work stoppage as soon as Monday.

 

[Quest4Less]

Law suits

You couldn't sue the union as they publically denied that they organized the strike, they said it was a "spontaneous act" by the employees. Maybe true, maybe not - but could you prove it?

 

[phogNphriction]

Either I wasn't clear or you've misunderstood my point.

As I said, the financial damages are a relatively simple matter to prove.
However, you and I (or another other transit rider) do NOT have a contract with the transit workers union. We may have an implied contract, at best. I figure that the best argument is a breach of good faith.

As for the legality of the strike, a statutory breach is not the same as a civil contract breach or a tort.

Lucky #13 - very edifying, thanks for the analysis

 

[dragondeath]

rumor has it they will walk again at 6am. lol

 

[tboy]

Either I wasn't clear or you've misunderstood my point.

As I said, the financial damages are a relatively simple matter to prove.
However, you and I (or another other transit rider) do NOT have a contract with the transit workers union. We may have an implied contract, at best. I figure that the best argument is a breach of good faith.

As for the legality of the strike, a statutory breach is not the same as a civil contract breach or a tort.

I mean some lawyer could find a million loopholes in this argument but doesn't anyone buying a metropass have a contract with the TTC to provide them with service for everyday of the length of the metro pass? This would especially be evident if one had bought a daily pass for the day they striked.