Chinese vaccines not very powerful

[lenny2]

"Pakistan, with a population of 220 million people, has vaccinated more than a million people using the Chinese Sinopharm vaccine since February.

...8:11 a.m.: In a rare admission of the weakness of Chinese coronavirus vaccines, the country’s top disease control official says their effectiveness is low and the government is considering mixing them to get a boost.

Chinese vaccines “don’t have very high protection rates,” said the director of the China Centers for Disease Control, Gao Fu, at a conference Saturday in the southwestern city of Chengdu.

Beijing has distributed hundreds of millions of doses abroad while trying to promote doubt about the effectiveness of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine made using the previously experimental messenger RNA, or mRNA, process.

“It’s now under formal consideration whether we should use different vaccines from different technical lines for the immunization process,” Gao said.

Today’s coronavirus news: “Concerning” rise in COVID-19 variant cases, Tam says; Hundreds defy Montreal’s 8 p.m. curfew; Ontario reports record-high 4,456 cases, 21 deaths

Meanwhile, Ontario has administered more than 3.1 million doses of COVID-19 vaccines, with 22.6 per cent of all Ontarians over the age of 16 now having received at least one dose.

www.thestar.com

 

[squeezer]

Wow, almost 4500 cases. I'll bet Easter gatherings played a big part in this stat. People just don't get it that they get it from friends and family!!!

 

[sp free]

Wow, almost 4500 cases. I'll bet Easter gatherings played a big part in this stat. People just don't get it that they get it from friends and family!!!

Bullshit test produces bullshit spike in case numbers. Again.

Imagine all this hype around any other flu virus and ask if it makes any sense.

 

[squeezer]

Bullshit test produces bullshit spike in case numbers. Again.

Imagine all this hype around any other flu virus and ask if it makes any sense.

You know absolutely jack shit about the tests or any real data concerning COVID besides the bullshit and nonsense misinformation campaign you have bought into.

Fact check: How accurate are PCR tests for the novel coronavirus?

Experts say PCR tests for the virus that causes COVID-19 almost never return false positive results, but false negatives are more common.

www.ctvnews.ca

Fact check: How accurate are PCR tests for the novel coronavirus?

 

[sp free]

St. Anthony Fauci himself:

“If you get a cycle threshold of 35 or more, the chances of it being replication competent are minuscule.”

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1323033231181058049

Ontario runs the test at 38-40 cycles.

Explained: COVID-19 PCR Testing and Cycle Thresholds | Public Health Ontario

Learn more about COVID-19 PCR testing including information on how testing works and understanding cycle threshold values.

www.publichealthontario.ca

You are wrong. Again.

 

[squeezer]

St. Anthony Fauci himself:

“If you get a cycle threshold of 35 or more, the chances of it being replication competent are minuscule.”

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1323033231181058049

Ontario runs the test at 38-40 cycles.

Explained: COVID-19 PCR Testing and Cycle Thresholds | Public Health Ontario

Learn more about COVID-19 PCR testing including information on how testing works and understanding cycle threshold values.

www.publichealthontario.ca

You are wrong. Again.

Go get some help before the variant does it for you!

Stop your nonsense and bullshit CM/SPFREE and please get some help.

Claim that high PCR test sensitivity inflates COVID-19 cases wrongly conflates the issue of contagiousness with the presence of infection

PCR tests to detect viral diseases that have a high level of sensitivity can produce a positive result even if a person only harbors trace amounts of virus or non-infectious virus, like in recovering patients. Hence a positive test result from a PCR test without additional information about...

healthfeedback.org

 

[sp free]

Take your .org misinformation to the bin.

How dare you question St. Dr. Anthony Fauci.

 

[squeezer]

Take your .org misinformation to the bin.

How dare you question St. Dr. Anthony Fauci.

I'm glad you agree with Fauci even though you like to take his comments out of context. Since you agree, here is a nice helping dose of Dr. Fauci

COVID-19 numbers are hitting a ‘disturbing’ level, Dr. Fauci says

Dr. Anthony Fauci warned new COVID-19 numbers could be problematic.

www.deseret.com

COVID-19 numbers are hitting a ‘disturbing’ level, Dr. Fauci says


Read it carefully CM/SPFREE and please absorb the information like normal thinking individuals do, not ones from the Realm of the Bizzaro people.

 

[sp free]

What does he say about Texas?

 

[Cantaro]

Chinese COVID-19 vaccine effectiveness 'not high,' government exploring options: officials

Chinese COVID-19 vaccine effectiveness 'not high,' government exploring options: officials

China's coronavirus vaccines may not provide the appropriate protection, with the government exploring options to try and boost efficacy as additional vaccines enter clinical trials.

www.foxnews.com

 

[Jenesis]

Bullshit test produces bullshit spike in case numbers. Again.

Imagine all this hype around any other flu virus and ask if it makes any sense.

This is not any other flu though.

The regular flu, of course this wouldn’t make any sense. But this is not that.

 

[glamphotographer]

Wow, almost 4500 cases. I'll bet Easter gatherings played a big part in this stat. People just don't get it that they get it from friends and family!!!

Easter gatherings and church gatherings. We will reach 6k a day next week.

 

[lenny2]

"Back to the drawing board in China — Sinovac just 50 percent effective in COVID-19 trial
China's top disease control official says the country is considering mixing COVID-19 vaccines to further boost vaccine efficacy


BEIJING — China’s top disease control official has said the country is formally considering mixing COVID-19 vaccines, as a way of further boosting vaccine efficacy.

Available data shows Chinese vaccines lag behind others including Pfizer and Moderna in terms of efficacy, but require less stringent temperature controls during storage.


The currently available vaccines “don’t have very high rates of protection,” Gao Fu, the director of the Chinese Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, told a conference in the Chinese city of Chengdu on Saturday.

“Inoculation using vaccines of different technical lines is being considered,” he said.

Gao said that taking steps to “optimize” the vaccine process including changing the number of doses and the length of time between doses was a “definite” solution to the efficacy issues.

Gao’s remarks, which appeared inadvertent and quickly spread through Chinese social media on Saturday before being mostly censored, marked a departure from the rosy assessments of Chinese-made vaccines by the government. By Sunday, Internet users were intentionally misspelling words in their posts while discussing Gao’s comments to keep them from being removed.


The comments on Saturday come after the government has already distributed hundreds of millions of doses to other countries, even though the rollout has been dogged by questions over why Chinese pharmaceutical firms have not released detailed clinical trial data about the vaccines’ efficacy.

China has struck deals to supply many of its allies and economic partners in the developing world and boasted that world leaders – including in Indonesia, Pakistan and the United Arab Emirates – have taken the shots.

There have been signs that some countries remain skeptical: The UAE recently experimented with administering three shots of the Chinese Sinopharm vaccine, instead of two, over reports of low numbers of antibodies produced in some people, while Singapore has stockpiled but not used Sinovac shots.

China has developed four domestic vaccines approved for public use and an official said on Saturday that the country will likely produce 3 billion doses by the end of the year.

A COVID-19 vaccine developed by China’s Sinovac was found to have an efficacy rate of slightly above 50% in Brazilian clinical trials. A separate study in Turkey said it was 83.5% effective.

No detailed efficacy data has been released on a vaccines made by China’s Sinopharm. It has said two vaccines developed by its units are 79.4% and 72.5% effective respectively, based on interim results.


Both vaccine makers have presented data on their COVID-19 vaccines indicating levels of efficacy in line with those required by the World Health Organization, a WHO panel said in March.

Sinopharm and Sinovac use a conventional method of producing vaccines that contains inactivated germs, while other countries’ offerings, including those by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna, rely on a newfangled technique that uses messenger RNA (mRNA) to stimulate an immune response.

The mRNA vaccines are widely accepted as having higher efficacy rates, and Chinese pharmaceutical executives have said they are racing to catch up and master mRNA technology themselves.

The admission by the head of the Chinese CDC undercut other arms of the government, including its propaganda organs and diplomats, who have spent months touting Chinese vaccines as part of a soft power push while aggressively sowing doubt about Western alternatives by questioning the efficacy and safety of mRNA technology.

Back to the drawing board in China — Sinovac just 50 percent effective in COVID-19 trial

China's top disease control official says the country is considering mixing COVID-19 vaccines to further boost vaccine efficacy

nationalpost.com

 

[MissCroft]

Easter gatherings and church gatherings. We will reach 6k a day next week.

If there were a lot of Easter gatherings then, yes, we'll see the numbers go up this week. Last week would have been too early to tell. 6000 does seem a bit high though. I don't know anyone personally who celebrated outside of their immediate households.

 

[Kracker]

Well, I mean that's obviously on purpose. Why would they create a virus, then circulate an effective vaccine?

All part of a master plan to make all MPs Chinese by 2022. THAT'S when the prices get "jacked", so to speak.

Classic Netflix Trojan Horse strategy.

 

[glamphotographer]

If there were a lot of Easter gatherings then, yes, we'll see the numbers go up this week. Last week would have been too early to tell. 6000 does seem a bit high though. I don't know anyone personally who celebrated outside of their immediate households.

The virus R number is about 3X, so it doesn't take much for it to spread fast.

 

[sp free]

It’s nowhere near that high.

 

[redshank]

Maybe their vaccine is like Chinese food.

After you finish getting vaccinated you feel like another vaccine a half hour later